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****2025 TOUR DE FRANCE****
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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:18 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Nine miles to go, peloton is breaking apart for the final sprintz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49073824) |
Date: July 5th, 2025 11:21 AM Author: Abnormal double fault native Do all the bikers still use PEDs like in the 90s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49073828) |
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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:24 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan It was dirty until 2008 when the riders had to start getting tested year round for a ‘biological passport’. So now they they don’t just look for substances, they look for unlikely changes in your biomarkers.
Landis was the last clearly dirty winner. |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 7:52 AM Author: Iridescent multi-colored legend chapel Wiggins, Froome… (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49075765) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 3:00 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Couple puffs on an inhaler for Froome and Wiggins was ticky tacky. Nothing like Landis going beast mode in 2006 and immediately testing positive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49083037) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 1:00 PM Author: copper state sound barrier There hasn't been a clean winner of the tour since greg lemond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49109014) |
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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:30 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Horrible crash (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49073841) |
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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:32 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan These long flat stages are going to be grueling. Lots of crashes and jersey changes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49073845) |
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Date: July 5th, 2025 7:54 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Every morning these guys drive the route and turn all the dick graffiti into butterflies.
https://youtu.be/UBJWqhgQrVc?si=Atmk3xCcnSIv2UHZ |
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Date: July 19th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49114477) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 7:32 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Rainy day, looks miserable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49075750) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 1:05 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Great finish today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49076188) |
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Date: July 7th, 2025 6:55 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Straight headwinds today, finishes in Dunkirk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49078212) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 7:03 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Watching these crashes and it’s crazy how much it would hurt if they were normal sized men and not twinklets. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49081745) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 2:56 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Crazy good finish today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49083021) |
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Date: July 9th, 2025 7:20 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Here is the last 10km, it was about as good as aggressive race gets: https://youtu.be/xmByf38uFJI?t=1228&si=ZikXj54hjTtFHyfn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49085331) |
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Date: July 9th, 2025 7:30 AM Author: crawly abode famous landscape painting I love "working" from home watching TDF drinking coffee. Such a "chill" start to the day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49085341) |
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Date: July 9th, 2025 7:52 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Cr. It’s a perfect combination of chillwave visuals mixed with moments of intense competition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49085389) |
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Date: July 9th, 2025 7:21 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Time trials today, a new rider leaves every minute for three hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49085333) |
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Date: July 10th, 2025 7:06 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Today should be fun - most difficult course so far with lots of opportunity for some riders to make a breakaway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49089337) |
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Date: July 10th, 2025 10:38 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Most American looking rider of all time in second place today: https://images.app.goo.gl/KCALU (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49089687) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 1:10 PM Author: opaque wagecucks cruise ship Florida man dun good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49100346) |
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Date: July 12th, 2025 9:27 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Someone sprayed tacks on the road, flat tires everywhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49095422) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 11:19 AM Author: crawly abode famous landscape painting Another interesting stage today. Is this tiny Irishman Healy going to take the yellow from Pogacar? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49100045) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 12:24 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan He’s also an angry vindictive Irishman. He could have ridden for England as a youth but they passed him over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49100231) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 1:05 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan https://x.com/danielhussey2/status/1944791443567952044?s=46 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49100334) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 12:23 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Would be incredible if Healy can keep this up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49100229) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 9:17 AM Author: copper state sound barrier He can't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108311) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 9:23 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Tour betting is crazy. Tadej is -250 with less than two weeks to go and Healy, wearing the yellow jersey, is still 100/1 even with Irish punters coming in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108329) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 10:00 AM Author: copper state sound barrier Even if Healy was a top tier contender his team is too weak to defend the jersey. They let him get away because he isn't a threat. But you never know with how many crashes there are.m (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108488) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 10:04 AM Author: crawly abode famous landscape painting His team wears bright pink. They're a joke IMO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108497) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 10:11 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan I’m confused by this Lease a Bike team. Why would I lease a $5000 bike? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108515) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 9:14 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan 51 rider breakaway today with all the jerseys except for green up for grabs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108299) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 9:49 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Today’s climbs just started. Pack is going to disintegrate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108453) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 11:29 AM Author: crawly abode famous landscape painting Pogacar is GAPING Jonas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108765) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 12:13 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Tour is over (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108874) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 12:59 PM Author: copper state sound barrier It was over after the TT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49109010) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 12:12 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Tadej looked tired for about one minute, otherwise like he was riding with his kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108872) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: crawly abode famous landscape painting Macron is flirting with Tadej, staring at him lustfully (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49108881) |
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Date: July 18th, 2025 7:00 AM Author: maniacal persian https://x.com/Osint613/status/1946161450516431135 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49111210) |
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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:45 AM Author: opaque wagecucks cruise ship thus always to libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49111673) |
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Date: July 18th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Wrecked. After the Allez Omi Opi disaster the French don’t play. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49112150) |
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Date: July 19th, 2025 10:20 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Sad day. Remco was one of my favorite riders. He seems to win or blow up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49114098) |
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Date: July 19th, 2025 10:29 AM Author: Buff 180 Brunch Knife from glory in the time trial to agony of the quit https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ms9DN_QQ1pU
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Date: July 19th, 2025 12:13 PM Author: copper state sound barrier He is married to some muslim bitch and is a nasty shitlib iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49114217) |
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Date: July 19th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: Buff 180 Brunch Knife as the video above shows, she's drop dead beautiful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49114222) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 7:42 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan You can tell she longs for a tall man but is settling for rich and famous: https://share.google/wSHvCBcJI8vAj7LaD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49115882) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 7:45 AM Author: Buff 180 Brunch Knife she doth teach the torches to burn bright (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49115884) |
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Date: July 19th, 2025 10:34 AM Author: Slippery Cracking Deer Antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49114116) |
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Date: July 19th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Pogacar hitting dat NOS button (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49114160) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 7:36 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan American leading the breakaway . . . For now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49115877) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 9:59 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Pogacar going for an epic finish. Started the climb six minutes back, down to four with 13 km to go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121189) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:15 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Healy going for it. Pogi playing it safe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121251) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:23 AM Author: crawly abode famous landscape painting Jonas and Tadej making moves now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121275) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:29 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Still 2 minutes back in 6 & 7. Healy is pissed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121292) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:38 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Pogi hit dat NOS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121321) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:29 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan This is exciting for cyclemos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121290) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:32 AM Author: crawly abode famous landscape painting proles are really clogging up the roads today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121298) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:32 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Famous climb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121302) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:34 AM Author: crawly abode famous landscape painting Arensman clipped a dude a few mins ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121306) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:34 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Fan should be shot, imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121308) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:32 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Headwinds on a 10 percent climb, lmao, I’d be so det (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121299) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:33 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Spaniard worked that fucking hard to get dropped and is gonna end up outside of top 5. Brutal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121305) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:36 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Spoke too soon, he’s back in it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121314) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:38 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan interleaved rider tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121319) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:41 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan First stage win for a Frenchman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121331) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 10:42 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Insane that Pogacar only finished 40 seconds back. He made up two minutes in the final 10. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121335) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 11:01 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Tadej is going to win, Jonas should easily get second and will be pushing Tadej, so they’re uncatchable. But third place has five riders within 6 minutes of each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49121389) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 9:57 PM Author: copper state sound barrier Van Wilder coming out of nowhere to pull his teammate to the win was incredible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49123581) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:05 AM Author: crawly abode famous landscape painting chill, fratty cote-du-rhone ride today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49124261) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 8:23 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Today’s already wild (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49126790) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Passionate Navy Pocket Flask Theater Stage run over all cyclists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49126849) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 10:10 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Final climb looks brutal - here we go! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49126995) |
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Date: July 25th, 2025 7:06 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Late start today due to a diseased cattle outbreak, lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49129964) |
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Date: July 25th, 2025 7:48 AM Author: crawly abode famous landscape painting O’Connor was celebrating his stage win by raping some farm animals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49129976) |
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Date: July 25th, 2025 7:59 AM Author: Buff 180 Brunch Knife the race organizers are covering for Tadej who has been sick for days-- just giving that extra time for blood replacement therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49129990) |
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Date: July 25th, 2025 8:09 AM Author: brass glittery rehab pozpig The discovery of an outbreak of contagious nodular dermatitis affecting cattle in a herd located specifically in the Col des Saisies has necessitated the culling of the animals. In light of the distress experienced by the affected farmers and in order to preserve the smooth running of the race, it has been decided, in agreement with the relevant authorities, to modify the route of Stage 19 (Albertville–La Plagne) and to avoid the ascent to the col des Saisies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49130008) |
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Date: July 25th, 2025 9:12 AM Author: Vibrant drunken locale dragon finally saw the last hour of the Ventoux stage. when the Tour is good, it's great TV viewing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49130071) |
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Date: July 25th, 2025 9:44 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan That was about as good as it gets. Three genuinely suspenseful storylines coming together in the final 20k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49130127) |
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Date: July 25th, 2025 10:59 AM Author: Vibrant drunken locale dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49130252) |
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Date: July 25th, 2025 11:00 AM Author: Vibrant drunken locale dragon imagine winning that stage and having your name carved into stone atop Ventoux. nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49130254) |
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Date: July 25th, 2025 9:44 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Primo going for it today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49130129) |
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Date: July 25th, 2025 10:49 AM Author: mahogany vengeful selfie coldplay fan Pogi and Jonas climbing for a stage win and KOM jersey (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49130243) |
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Date: July 26th, 2025 7:19 AM Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts Some of these riders may get eliminated today if they fall off too far. Imagine riding 20 days in the TDF and not getting to ride into Paris. And the origin of that rule is back in the 70s riders would compete to be last. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49132183) |
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Date: July 26th, 2025 7:24 AM Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts One thing that’s been funny to me is Lance Armstrong is doing post-race commentary but NBC only built him a fourth rate podcast studio. It’s embarrassing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49132190) |
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Date: July 26th, 2025 11:58 AM Author: Noblesse Oblige Enigmas tp, will you be liveblogging San Sebastián, Vuelta and other late season races? I imagine Tour of Guangxi would garner more interest on xo than it does most places… (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49132631) |
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Date: July 27th, 2025 12:26 PM Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts No. I'm not a total cycle nut. My attention must turn to baseball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49134621) |
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Date: July 27th, 2025 12:27 PM Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts Ben Healy named most aggressive rider. Lot of good young talent got showcased this year.
Although Tadej looks like he can do this for another five years. |
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Date: July 27th, 2025 1:01 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., we need MPM awards a la tdf. moast aggressive poaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49134730) |
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Date: July 27th, 2025 12:58 PM Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts Officials called it due to rain:
1. Tadej 2. Jonas 3. Florian
I feel scared for the riders watching them go this fast in the rain on cobblestones. |
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Date: July 27th, 2025 1:02 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., cycling fags: where do the yellow / leader jerseys come from? does each team make a bunch of yellow / leader jersey for its riders in the case of need? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49134735) |
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Date: July 28th, 2025 4:34 PM Author: Noblesse Oblige The race supplies them. Pretty sure they screen print the team logos as needed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49138156) |
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Date: July 28th, 2025 4:51 PM Author: Upper Middle Class Dad in quarter zip golf pullove Yeah and in the time trials they used to not want the jerseys cause it wasn't as aerodynamic as their skinsuit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49138200) |
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Date: July 28th, 2025 6:57 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., yeah seems kinda shitty not to wear your brand you know (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49138505) |
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Date: July 28th, 2025 6:57 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., is there a choice of sizes, or is it just twink and twink? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49138504) |
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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:43 PM Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts Small twink, medium twink, extra small twink - they have all the sizes because you never know who is going to get it, especially early. And when Tadej consolidates all the jerseys like he did, you need one for Tadej to wear and for the guy who will actually wear it in the race. Tadej had to do like three photo sets when he had yellow, green and KOM. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49138803) |
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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:41 PM Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts The sponsors of each jersey pay for them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49138797) |
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Date: July 28th, 2025 8:55 AM Author: Judas Jones Damn, just watched the final stage this morning. XO WVA taking the stage by passing Tadej on a climb up Montmartre was 93248239083232534 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49136769) |
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Date: July 28th, 2025 4:30 PM Author: Noblesse Oblige XO Alaphilippe kamikaze attack up the first climb XO Mohoric taking wild risks on the slippery cobbles XO Ballerini doing his best impression of 2021 Omloop TLS Enric Mas nowhere to be seen TLS Remco crying into his muzzie trash wife’s tits back at home |
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Date: July 28th, 2025 4:51 PM Author: Upper Middle Class Dad in quarter zip golf pullove (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746404&forum_id=2#49138202) |