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Hiring a lawyer for $105k. I feel bad.
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Date: September 10th, 2026 7:46 AM Author: a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts They’re going to get trained by a lawyer making 107k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50126370) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 8:29 AM Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?) how do u train a lawyer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50126409) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 8:33 AM Author: a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts A few carrots but mostly the rod. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50126417) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50127933) |
Date: September 10th, 2026 8:34 AM Author: Jared Baumeister Flat fee? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50126418) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 8:35 AM Author: a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts Base salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50126421) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 8:47 AM Author: DOCTOR Quintessa Hathaway I have job applicants champing at the bit to work for less. It always blows my mind how little shitlaw associates are paid. I hired a guy recently who 20+ years of experience who said he was hoping to make 80-90k. He's on track to make 105 with me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50126445) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 9:50 AM Author: 1.618 I have 8 shitlaw associates who make on average about 120k plus decent benefits. They love me. I pay staff a little above (the very low) local market rate and I am embarrassed by how happy that makes them.
You can hire useful people at very reasonable rates IMO |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 12:34 PM Author: DOCTOR Quintessa Hathaway No Doobs but what kind of area are you located in and what kind of cases do you do? I'm in a Southern state doing general civil litigation. Most of it ends up involving some type of real estate dispute like who owns the family farm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50126886) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 1:41 PM Author: a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts Aren’t they kind of retarded though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50127126) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 7:58 PM Author: DOCTOR Quintessa Hathaway They're not geniuses but some are surprisingly quite competent. But you have to watch shitlawyers. Every so often, one of them will flame out, become an alcoholic or drug addict, start filing bizarre and incomprehensible motions, or just disappear. I have multiple people in my firm who are "supervisors" keeping a close eye on my workforce, such as it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50128093) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 12:59 PM Author: ''''''''''''' How is this possible? Are they that non-value additive? Why is a SL associate worth 100k while BL is 500k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50126967) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 1:42 PM Author: a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts I’m in-house so they’re completely a cost center. Hiring them purely for a function and will be ready to replace them with AI as soon as I can. Advertisement basically said NO STRIVERS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50127134) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 6:38 PM Author: ''''''''''''' That’s insane. Basically back office robot level comp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50127925) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 6:46 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Honestly, for a first in-house job this is fine. During ITE (2011-2012ish) I would have taken this without any hesitation. If you throw them some normal in-house work (random agreements and a variety of typical issues) so they can speak to it in a few years at their future interviews they'll be thrilled with all of this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50127941) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 6:52 PM Author: ''''''''''''' That’s insane. I’m at 200k+ with my BS zoomer non-law cost center job. Was thinking of doing LS to upgrade careers but this is bleak. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50127950) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 6:54 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Yeah, you should think very long and hard before going to law school for an "upgrade."
Plenty of lawyers are tripping over themselves and each other for in-house jobs in the low $200s. Like these jobs get legit 100+ applicants. |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 7:03 PM Author: ''''''''''''' Are these people just non value additive? What do they do? Are these people from T50 schools who squeak into BL and burn out after 3 years? I just find the bifurcation in outcomes between lawyers unbelievable. Some are SL kings/BL partners, others are SL or ID associates or in-house peons. Is this self selection or is it just due to lack of relative ability? Seems like your path is determined from the beginning depending on whether you go TTT or T14. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50127975) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 7:14 PM Author: cowgod Lawyers don’t add value to society at all. It’s a Fake Job. Extremely shrewd and connected top 0.1% lawyers come in handy if you’re rich though.
Biglaw sells people on its Eliteness and the Polish of acing OCI. The highest high end stuff is prestigious and makes the rich richer and the prestige trickles down. Normal Bro big lawyers suck and are worth $0k in the actual economic system. |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 7:22 PM Author: ''''''''''''' I know you bombed OCI and attended a TTT but some lawyers are value additive; I think of top corporate partners in particular whose legal acumen can be valuable in resolving business issue and facilitating 9 figure plus transactions. Then there’s the ambulance chasing CSLG types (recognizing he is the MJ of ambulance chasing but still) and borderline retarded paper pushing fake email job cost center people who send a few emails per week and who apparently (as I learned here) earn 100k. I’d imagine so long as you attend a T14 (or even T20) you won’t fall into that latter category. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50128021) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 7:35 PM Author: cowgod The Fake E-mail jobs pay 200k+
Low Losers have to make like 70k or 100k doing shitlaw |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 7:35 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. I'm guessing that you have no idea what lawyers do in-house. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50128043) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 7:58 PM Author: cowgod They do Nothing and they suck ass at what little they do, like redlining contracts for No Reason or because they have a quota of how much of others’ time to waste. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50128091) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 9:17 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. This is exactly wrong. Law firm lawyers love stupid redlines that are pointless because they bill hours. In-house people try to get deals done with as little grief as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50128258) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 7:33 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. It isn't just lawyers, a lot of people in corps do normal functions where they're not that difficult to replace. I make around $500k at this point but there are a lot more lawyers making $200-250kish than $500kish and up (both where I work and in-house generally). I have a lot of institutional knowledge and am the person who built a lot of what we do for a variety of circumstances. The people making junior lawyer money will need at least a few years before they become truly valuable.
Background: tons are biglaw burnouts, some are not super impressive and were at smaller/shittier firms but happened to specialize in something we needed.
SL Kings are super rare, as are real BL partners (the ones with equity and not just glorified of counsels). I think people also fail to understand what "ability" means here. It isn't what the LSAT tests for or academic prestige signals or whatever. It is a combo of willingness to have your entire life be building your book of business and practicing law while consistently avoiding fucking up in a significant way (harder than you might think when you're sleep deprived for years on end). Many of these people are truly miserable, probably more as a percentage than people stuck as regular in-house counsels making $210k or whatever.
By the way, I went biglaw and ended up taking a lowball in-house offer and now make a good salary and have a decent QOL. I'm happy with my outcome. But law is a tough field no matter your background and because of oversaturation any flaws compound to make your path to success far harder. |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 8:06 PM Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?) explain how u got institutionalized knowledge and what is it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50128105) |
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Date: September 11th, 2026 12:04 AM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Institutional knowledge is knowing how shit actually works at whatever company (the institution). How does anything actually get done there? Who do you need to talk to? How do they operate their business? No one goes to lawyers for a lecture on the majesty of the law or a legal memo. They want concrete advice and it takes the form of "we have product x and now we want to modify it in y way. Any problems here?" If you don't understand product x and don't understand the implications of y changes then you're useless. They have zero interest in teaching lawyers, so generally the person who they deal with needs to know that shit. As you can guess, hiring a junior and teaching them all of that takes literally years (especially in a megacorp) so the value of a new person is much lower because of this. And what they really want goes beyond just "legal advice." They want to know how to do whatever they need. We want to use AI to interact with customers. Ok, well, you need a notice that they're talking to AI and not humans. How do we get that notice? The lawyer needs to be ready to talk to the right people to make that happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50128574) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 8:07 PM Author: ...,....,,........ "Some are SL kings/BL partners, others are SL or ID associates or in-house peons"
It's about having that HUSTLE IN YOUR HEART.
If you're just looking for stable employment like a GOOD GOYIM, then you'll never make real money in this profession.
You'll just be grateful for a tomorrow just a little less stressful than today |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 1:43 PM Author: Covid was a Hoax i would take this job in a heartbeat if i lived a four minute walk away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50127135) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 2:44 PM Author: Faith Ordway?s golden retriever tp 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50127337) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 8:57 PM Author: holdout male juror Low cost of living area? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50128200) |
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Date: September 10th, 2026 9:27 PM Author: Good This is literally 5x as much as nyuug makes in his 40s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902207&forum_id=2#50128279) |