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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Sapphire native regret
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Milky chapel place of business
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
jade police squad
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Milky chapel place of business
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
jade police squad
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Cerebral temple famous landscape painting
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
carnelian irradiated den toilet seat
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Milky chapel place of business
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Knife
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
flushed heaven multi-billionaire
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Bright tattoo
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Milky chapel place of business
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Bright tattoo
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Bright tattoo
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Milky chapel place of business
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Purple Sexy Sanctuary
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Milky chapel place of business
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Milky chapel place of business
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Milky chapel place of business
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Crystalline beady-eyed digit ratio
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
thriller coffee pot parlour
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Knife
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Milky chapel place of business
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Sapphire native regret
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Milky chapel place of business
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
lascivious striped hyena dopamine
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Titillating doobsian juggernaut
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Smoky Philosopher-king Internal Respiration
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Sapphire native regret
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Heady Messiness
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Milky chapel place of business
  06/26/25
...
Slate Box Office
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
geriatric national
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
hyperactive legal warrant queen of the night
  06/26/25
...
Marvelous onyx piazza
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Puce abusive lodge associate
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Misanthropic laughsome kitty ratface
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Chocolate Hospital Quadroon
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Milky chapel place of business
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Misanthropic laughsome kitty ratface
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Milky chapel place of business
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Knife
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
flushed heaven multi-billionaire
  06/27/25
...
Milky chapel place of business
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Stubborn garrison
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Misanthropic laughsome kitty ratface
  06/27/25
...
Cyan rambunctious home
  06/27/25
...
Milky chapel place of business
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Chocolate Hospital Quadroon
  06/27/25
How is STB?
flushed heaven multi-billionaire
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Spectacular claret newt
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Knife
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
geriatric national
  06/27/25
...
Sooty big macaca gas station
  06/27/25
...
Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Knife
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Sapphire native regret

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: jade police squad

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: jade police squad

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Cerebral temple famous landscape painting

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: carnelian irradiated den toilet seat

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Knife

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: flushed heaven multi-billionaire

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Bright tattoo

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Bright tattoo

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Bright tattoo

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Purple Sexy Sanctuary

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Crystalline beady-eyed digit ratio

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: thriller coffee pot parlour

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Knife

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Sapphire native regret

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: lascivious striped hyena dopamine

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Titillating doobsian juggernaut

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Smoky Philosopher-king Internal Respiration

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Sapphire native regret

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Heady Messiness

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Slate Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: geriatric national

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: hyperactive legal warrant queen of the night

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Marvelous onyx piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Puce abusive lodge associate

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Misanthropic laughsome kitty ratface

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Chocolate Hospital Quadroon

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Misanthropic laughsome kitty ratface

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Milky chapel place of business

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Knife

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: flushed heaven multi-billionaire

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Milky chapel place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Stubborn garrison

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Misanthropic laughsome kitty ratface

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Cyan rambunctious home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Milky chapel place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Chocolate Hospital Quadroon

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: flushed heaven multi-billionaire

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Spectacular claret newt

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Knife

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: geriatric national

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Sooty big macaca gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Turquoise Razzle-dazzle Knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)