Many of you know I've been having issues that seem related to testosterone or reproductive plumbing in some way recently
Igor from Vitruvian Physique mentioned in a new video today that Ashwaghanda has some legit science behind it as far as natural testosterone support. Has anyone here done any research on this? Seeing if I can avoid re-inventing the wheel there. Thank
Date: May 9th, 2022 4:34 PM Author: ponyboy curtis ()
I think he's more concerned about sides bro. This shit is untested, and even shit that is tested has unknown sides, so it's probably best to take less of just about anything.
Thanks for weighing in despite our differing life philosophies. Aren't you a rampaging tranny fucker/sex fiend? Did this get to that level or did you start to moderate and jumped on it to maintain?
Date: November 24th, 2021 9:42 PM Author: flatulent stag film giraffe
Ur sperm count is low? Do you have random dull pain in ur balls that last anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds? The surgery I had done removed my pain and now I have a baby and good sperm. Cost here was about $5k for a doctor that spent some years working in USA as a doctor.
Civilian urologist at the country's best hospital. Have appt with with different gr real internist next week and we will walk the dog through specialist referrals I guess. My fault for trying to leapfrog the medical-industrial racket I guess
Date: November 25th, 2021 2:15 AM Author: Slate Appetizing Toilet Seat Piazza
My hunch was some kind of plumbing condition effecting physical production as well -- something in my hips area just feels a little, idk, unusual these months. But docs don't see anything.
Date: November 24th, 2021 8:59 PM Author: Bearded Crackhouse
I'm going to give you some advice you're not going to like.
Your endocrine system will be severely inhibited when you dip below a certain level of visceral fat, when you stay in a sharp caloric deficit for extended periods of time, and when you don't consume enough cholesterol. Test is literally synthesized from a base cholesterol molecule (as are all of your other androgens).
I don't know what your symptoms are, and I don't know your current diet and body composition, but my hunch based on your poasting corpus is that all of these things are probably deficient in some way (i.e. you are probably too lean and skinny, and not eating the right food for your endocrine system to produce what you need).
Ashwagandha is good; so are zinc orotate, vitamin D, folic acid, and DHEA. But none of those will help you if the other issues aren't fixed.
I have been reverse dieting for metabolic repair and I'm no longer in a significant deficit as of some time ago. If the doctors are still stumped and my condition resolves as I gain weight and fat through 2022Q1/Q2 you'll be proven right
Date: November 24th, 2021 9:56 PM Author: Thriller Garrison Stain
MNever heard about glycine or black maca — are those really proven effective? Not questioning your knowledge just genuinely curious and looking to add to my cocktail
Edit: started looking into these and there’s some legit science behind them. DHEA seems concerning though for long term use.
Date: November 25th, 2021 12:22 AM Author: Bearded Crackhouse
Anecdotally: oh yeah. Data-wise: yeah, there's some decent data behind them. I'm not sure if glycine helps simply by improving sleep quality, but it does that very well -- take it 30m before bed.
Date: November 24th, 2021 9:08 PM Author: concupiscible stead
CR. Its value as a supplement is to help get you from 'good' to 'better'/'great' when you need to squeeze every drop of progress that can't be easily knocked out by dropping 20lbs and putting on 5lbs of muscle or whatever.
I need to update this thread, but evidence is mounting that Hegemon had the right idea with this. Not necessarily cholesterol but the "sharp caloric deficit for extended periods of time" -- as I have gradually transitioned into caloric surplus, and resumed fueling my workouts properly with pre- and post-nutrition, my condition has improved notably and progressively.
Caveat, because my diet is very low fat in general and has been for years, reducing calories to that level over that duration reduced dietary fat commensurately, and my intake probably was critically low -- probably had an outsized impact on the hormonal issues. I am now making sure to hit a minimum daily dietary fat intake, which is still low, but I believe it's above a healthy minimum
I feel like I could write a god damn book on the experience of gradually becoming a different person in a broken body.
Date: November 24th, 2021 9:21 PM Author: Thriller Garrison Stain
Done a shit ton of research on this. Never had any low T issue that I’ve noticed but just generally getting older wanted to make sure I did what I could to boost. My cocktail:
Tongkat Ali
Ashwaghanda
Zinc
Magnesium
D3
Fadogia Agrestis (done this on and off)
One zero calorie iced tea per day (edit: I like the Pure Leaf Unsweetened because it has high caffeine content)
Edit: Ginseng too
I’ve done creatine in the past too but don’t like to stay on it.
This regimen has changed my life immensely. I have sustained tremendous willpower to work out and work hard professionally that’s fundamentally different from anything I felt before and it’s now going on 8 months so it’s not a flash in the pan. I look jacked but not unnaturally so, my sex drive is great, I have tons more energy. Either it works or it’s the strongest placebo effect you can imagine and frankly I don’t care either way.
Date: November 25th, 2021 4:22 AM Author: Rose dog poop
entirely depends on the origin. physiological, eh, the state of arousal might help or might not. psychological, makes it a little worse for a while then much better
Feeling a lot a lot a lot more like myself since starting this on Thursday. Could be placebo or the fact I ate a bunch Wednesday and Thursday but today I felt tired from working out but NOT like I'm living my life in a pool of quicksand. I swear it felt like the world was spinning faster than usual and I had to kill myself just to keep up, even songs sounded like they had a faster tempo.
Still no cum when cumming and still BPH-like urinary symptoms. I did feel a tenderness in the right side of my gut while driving home from church. Seeing new doc this week
Very positive. Night and day change in attitude, feeling much lighter on my feet physically, witness says my face is getting less puffy every day. Could be placebo or the result of a diet slightly higher in fat/carbs/calories over same time period but I'm very happy. Still no cum though, doc visit tonight
Date: November 28th, 2021 11:24 PM Author: Bearded Crackhouse
my question is whether the guy with the broken dick has tried not playing with it for a little while to see if things revert to some baseline of normalcy
Date: November 29th, 2021 7:21 AM Author: Slate Appetizing Toilet Seat Piazza
I didn't jack off or otherwise cum for months between may and September, had zero sex drive. I'm not quite as limp dicked lately (can at least test fire and its taking less time) but this is still a problem
Date: November 29th, 2021 8:08 AM Author: Thriller Garrison Stain
Are you just doing Ashwaghanda so far? Was thinking it may not work great for you because it’s mechanism of action is to suppress cortisol which then boosts T. If you have no fat then you’re probably not producing much cortisol to being with. Some of the other supplements like Tongkat Ali may be a better bet for you.
Date: November 29th, 2021 5:34 PM Author: Bearded Crackhouse
Jump on the stuff that I recommended above. It will be hard to isolate effects, but my bet is that you are less interested in that than you are just finding something that will help.
Date: November 29th, 2021 5:14 PM Author: marvelous juggernaut
i actually think i've probably had it for many years but didn't realize it, and it started to get worse a year or so ago.
years ago i'd occasionally get pain in my perineum, but i didn't really think much of it. it would go away and i'd forget about it. no other symptoms.
the last two or three years, i noticed i would have difficulty starting a urine stream occasionally.
then a little over a year ago one morning i couldn't piss at all. my dick hurt, my perineum hurt, and i couldn't piss or even shit.
it got better, but it will still come and go to varying degrees, and would often be accompanied by stinging when i pissed.
in the months that followed my libido tanked. i was having difficulty with erections and started using cialis on weekends. (which did help, and i believed help ease my other symptoms).
i realized around this time that i hadn't been getting morning wood for years.
as i did my research, i came across chronic prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome, and it seemed to hit every symptom.
basically, i do a lot of sitting for my job, and i internalize stress, and have a habit of tensing up unconsciously. over the years i thinking my pelvic floor muscles just kept getting tighter and tighter.
i'd go into more detail, but i'm writing quickly just to get a few things out before i have to leave for a meeting. anyway, i don't want to get a prostate exam, so i've been putting off seeing a doctor, but i figure i better suck it up and get it done and see if there's medication i can take. i also want to get my T levels checked to see if that's contributing to my low libido.
Date: November 29th, 2021 4:57 PM Author: aphrodisiac bronze ladyboy
The best brand of Ashwanganda is Himalaya. Seriously. You can immediately tell the difference in quality as soon as you open the bottle. After I'd take the last one in the bottle I'd put my nose inside and inhale the dust.
It doesn’t sound like you have a T problem. It sounds like you’re ejaculating into your bladder instead of out your dick hole and probably will need surgery to fix. In any event, check your PSA asap and make sure it’s not prostate cancer
Date: November 29th, 2021 5:00 PM Author: aphrodisiac bronze ladyboy
When my black wife and I were trying to have kids I was concerned that my sperm count might be low from smoking weed all my life (turns out that study you heard about is bullshit and weed actually increases T) and because I'm an oldmo.
I took ashwanganda, maca root, korean ginseng, and l-arginine. Now I have two mixed kids.
Testosterone results from my blood work last week came in today.
Taking a risk by posting this: the reading is shockingly low. Jaw-dropping. If I posted the number I'd never live it down.
I know weight loss and fat loss reduce testosterone, and so does excessive cardio. But this seems extreme. And I do have some other weird symptoms, like the eye/neck/knee swelling. Maybe it's all from cortisol? I guess there's too much data now for it to be a coincidence. I hope with some therapeutic T and a guided strength/size program I will be back to normal in no time.
general practitioner on the 30th, after my vacation. I assume he will refer me to an endocrinologist. already saw the urologist so hopefully he doesn't send me back to that doofus. "there's nothing anatomical" -- I just don't see how that could be true, but maybe I don't have a realistic idea of how badly I've damaged myself through....exercise
If you’re seriously 126 you need to start eating ribeyes everyday. I promise you that will fix your T levels and you’ll fill out like an actual man. You’re almost as big of a twink as Benzo.
T levels are highest in the mornings. Not trying to insult you but if you’re 126 lbs your T levels are a symptom. You need to lift and eat beef and a lot of it.
I think I’ve identified the problem here. Ruminate flesh should be the main source of ANY human’s diet. You are literally killing yourself slowly via diet.
Still loling at 7 days a week lifting and 126 lbs.
yeah I'm sure after 11 years of steady diet, high performance and good health, my ethical nutrition habits crashed my hormones on day 1 of year 12. laugh it up ass hole
I have nothing but love for you and all my ZOZO brothers but somebody convinced you 12 years ago to make a major life error and now as you age you’re reaping the whirlwind. Thankfully it is easily fixed. Start listening to Paul mason or Ken Berry or Dr Saladino on jew tube about the carnivore diet. You are seriously killing yourself.
Date: December 17th, 2021 10:03 AM Author: Slate Appetizing Toilet Seat Piazza
Saw the other thread today where the guy tested in the high 290s and thinks it's "low" and lol'd in the hospital waiting room, where I just had a blood re-draw to rule out a lab error on my first result. Liver ultrasound appointment coming up
Update for my bros, testosterone retest came in at double the 1st test but still below ref range. Possibly on road to recovery.
At liver ultrasound, the sonographer couldn't do an evaluation obv but told me she expected me to be a repeat customer. However, doc said there's nothing abnormal. Some kidney bright spots. On the day of both exams I felt like absolute shit.
I've been on the holiday feast fest with fiancee that I'd been putting off my mass gain phase for. Go home tomorrow.
Two days ago was probably the worst day. After a couple days of force feeding delicious high salt high oil meals, I was very puffed up in the face and felt like I was dragging 15 extra lbs of water, not hydrated well and pissing orange. Exhausted with poor breathing due to swollen neck and jaw.
The day after was better and today I feel fuckin great. I've had some days off and some days in the gym but been fairly active with at-minimum low intensity movement each day.
Able to get an erection but desire is low and orgasms are still dry. Taking ashwaghanda, tongkat, and maca root daily. Had some white meat here and there incidentally with meals, and eating eggs and dairy now that advent fast is over
Recovery is slow but seems to be happening. Sex drive is still pretty much flatlined but seems to flare up when I want to procrastinate. I feel like having my fiancee abroad and really limited contact with nubile women in the meatspace might keep it depressed, pheremonally or subconsciously or both. I wonder how big a role habit plays in this. From time to time I will wake up in a state of weak physical arousal
Daily fat intake is way up, more than double where it was during my illness, including a tablespoon of EVOO or two added to meals on non fast days. I am also doing a lot more cardio however to balance this out calorically, which probably also attenuates the sexual health benefits.
Getting on a schedule where I try to ejaculate every ten days. Last attempt was productive but modest. Emission is like more yellowy-orangey in color than it was before I shut down, and it seems thicker in consistency. The process is totally passionless, I feel like nutella's husband, but the sensation is very pleasurable and the physical response seems to be normal again
5'8, 141.5 this morning; heaviest I've been since probably October. Targeting 145 for September
My calorie deficit during my illness was huge, and I was overtrained with a huge amount of "Junk volume" daily as well, including excessive cardio. However, I was eating a lot, and felt full all day from eating mostly vegetables and drinking lots of water. This deficit went on way, way too long to be healthy or productive.
Fat intake especially was low, which I think was a major contributor to hormonal abnormality over and above the general health deterioration in severity.
Date: January 13th, 2024 7:40 AM Author: Slate Appetizing Toilet Seat Piazza
Feeling great, looking good. Anxiety way down, producing semen and experiencing morning 2ood again. Libido has not returned to it's former pathological heights but I think that's actually a net positive for myself and my family
Date: January 13th, 2024 11:34 AM Author: Slate Appetizing Toilet Seat Piazza
Haven't weighed myself in the morning since my Christmas vacation. I was 165 after breakfast with my pants and shit on when the army took measurements last weekend