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WSJ: Monday saw very heavy 401k trading- link
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Date: April 8th, 2025 11:57 AM Author: Glassy jet-lagged library mad cow disease So probably millions of Americans sold their stocks at the worst possible time- the S&P was down 3.5 to 4.5 percent Monday morning until the fake news broke.
Retirement savers traded more in their 401(k) accounts on Monday than any day since the beginning of the pandemic in March 2020.
People typically don't trade in their 401(k)s often, and the movement of money was a tiny share of assets. But it was almost 10 times the usual trading, and the fifth heaviest trading day since at least 1997, according to record-keeper Alight Solutions, which tracks a subset of the plans it administers.
Savers pulled money from U.S. stocks and target-date funds, and shifted into safer bond and money market funds.
Monday's trades include portfolio adjustments that savers made over the weekend, when many were digesting the market turmoil stemming from President Trump's tariff announcements. Those trades would have been executed Monday. |
Date: April 8th, 2025 12:07 PM Author: Turquoise Pocket Flask I find those "don't sell your stocks!" emails from 401(k) providers pretty lulzy, but there must be a bunch of people doing that if those emails are necessary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827491) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:09 PM Author: Olive volcanic crater Yes because brokerages and brokers want money
They aren’t getting paid as much if we withdraw from mutual funds etc |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 3:01 PM Author: purple tanning salon haunted graveyard perhaps you are paraphrasing, but no 401k provider is going to advise clients to not sell their stocks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827923) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 6:20 PM Author: Turquoise Pocket Flask the emails they sent don't directly say not to, but the gist of the message is "don't change your strategy during market volatility"
they're implying you shouldn't sell during a downturn |
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Date: April 9th, 2025 12:17 AM Author: purple tanning salon haunted graveyard okay, fair probably good or at least honest 'advice' but it cannot be couched as advice |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 5:18 PM Author: mischievous stead There is VOLUMINOUS data on this. Market timers lose. Only George Soros and 6-4 jacked pumos get it right consistently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828530) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:12 AM Author: mischievous stead Still true, but I forgot about benzo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#49124277) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:09 PM Author: Glittery field Many of these people are going to buy back into equities once they increase in price and are "safe." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827495) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 1:09 PM Author: arousing factory reset button black woman Many will also forget to reinvest and leave cash sitting around to erode from inflation until they check their account statement when they're 65 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827680) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 5:58 PM Author: Glittery field 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828674) |
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Date: April 9th, 2025 12:31 AM Author: impressive old irish cottage I'm grateful for these people. They ultimately fund my gains. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48829834) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:27 PM Author: Dashing Public Bath Yup. Then the people who sold will still be holding cash as it rallies to the previous all time high (because they don’t trust the rally). Finally they’ll still be in cash as it reaches new highs because at that point they just have to wait for a new low so they don’t have to accept they lost a ton of upside. |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: Cocky Doobsian Menage i know someone who moved their 401k to cash when trump was elected... in his first term LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827565) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:30 PM Author: Dashing Public Bath There was an article about dumb boomers who went to all cash at the bottom in 2009 and then never bought back in. I’ll see if I can find it.
Investing really is just about controlling your emotions and accepting some level of risk. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:25 AM Author: Dashing Public Bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#49124327) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: Silver half-breed step-uncle's house LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827580) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:36 PM Author: Boyish nighttime boltzmann human psychology is interesting. why the fuck would you be selling shit during this. it will come back. and if it doesn't come back, we are all doomed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827589) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:37 PM Author: Floppy Offensive Kitty Cat because people think it will go down further (which it probably will). Some will rebuy when it really crashes (well played) and some wont (screwed). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827592) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:38 PM Author: Boyish nighttime boltzmann right, but you have about a 5% chance of getting the timing right. you have roughly a 100% chance of the market being way higher in a few years if you just leave it alone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827595) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 3:13 PM Author: Olive volcanic crater it's about wanting to be 5X bro
who cares about tiny pink 1-2X gains |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:50 PM Author: Dashing Public Bath Most won’t. If you don’t have the fortitude to hold at this level, you won’t have the fortitude to buy back in when it’s way lower and the level of panic is even higher. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827631) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 5:19 PM Author: mischievous stead Just had this convo with my wife, who saw something on the news about tariffs make numbers go down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828537) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:37 PM Author: Floppy Offensive Kitty Cat "So probably millions of Americans sold their stocks at the worst possible time"
wait two weeks |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:26 AM Author: Dashing Public Bath ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#49124334) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 12:38 PM Author: Floppy Offensive Kitty Cat btw, stock market already giving up much of its gains. there is a lot of manipulation going on, you either need to get out or stay in and not look. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827596) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 1:12 PM Author: fluffy ticket booth the volatility is fucking WILD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827686) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 3:13 PM Author: Olive volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827970) |
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Date: April 9th, 2025 12:31 AM Author: impressive old irish cottage I'm throwing cash in on the big drops. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48829836) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 1:09 PM Author: Floppy Offensive Kitty Cat this thread is already not aging well. the dead cat bounce has already almost full receded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827679) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 3:04 PM Author: Glassy jet-lagged library mad cow disease Not for those who sold at - 4% Monday morning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48827929) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 3:44 PM Author: Floppy Offensive Kitty Cat ??? it's literally going to continue going down
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Date: April 8th, 2025 3:44 PM Author: Olive volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828127) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 5:09 PM Author: pearly location over what time period? you're betting against US equities long term? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828487) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 5:10 PM Author: Floppy Offensive Kitty Cat it's going down (generally) for at least another 6-12 months unless Trump literally 100% reverses course. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828490) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 5:13 PM Author: pearly location ok man. make sure you post whenever you buy back in, because it's going up and you're missing the boat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828510) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 5:20 PM Author: Dashing Public Bath (Nostradamus) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828541) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 5:21 PM Author: mischievous stead We need to tax these quotemos who spout this shit without proof they've shorted the market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828551) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 6:26 PM Author: Bistre 180 Alpha To be fair,
It is absolutely mind-blowing to read brilliant "you've been warned bud, now watch this drive!" financial calls like this from the very same smug know-it-all Quotemos who spent the last decade openly sneering at me for being a "retard" as I aggressively pushed BTC/ETH/SOL/TSLA.
Truly amazing stuff, very entertaining.
Really makes you think! |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:28 AM Author: Dashing Public Bath (Market wizard) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#49124340) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 5:19 PM Author: stirring school cafeteria ratface this is the problem with this stupid shit trump is doing. a lot of people will sell low and then miss out on the gains hoping for it to go down again which may not happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828534) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 5:24 PM Author: Emerald locus What’s the problem here exactly. Idiots panic and sell whenever there’s a downturn. So what. If you invest in the market you aren’t guaranteed an ever higher market on a monthly basis nor should you be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#48828557) |
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Date: April 8th, 2025 6:01 PM Author: titillating mahogany partner and i bet they were selling QQQ and mag7 stocks after they are down 25-30%
furking stupid |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:06 AM Author: Dashing Public Bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5707393&forum_id=2#49124264) |