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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796394) |
Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM Author: dashing principal's office selfie Underrated by whom? He’s revered (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796396) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage how does he rank all time, is he a top 3? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796397) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM Author: beta background story He's undoubtedly top 3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796399) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage Nolan Ryan?
Randy Johnson? |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM Author: dashing principal's office selfie Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796411) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796419) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM Author: beta background story Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Johnson Martinez |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage cr
but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3 |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM Author: beta background story Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796436) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage all 3 above above ryan?
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM Author: Cracking mother hell pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796451) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:28 AM Author: Slimy stimulating box office Clemens had the best career of anyone in that era if we ignore PEDs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49914410) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM Author: dashing principal's office selfie Hard to say but he’s up there for sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796401) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage he's def most high iq though, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796407) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM Author: dashing principal's office selfie Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796409) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage the latter obv
i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM Author: dashing principal's office selfie Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796417) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796421) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 1:01 AM Author: fishy marvelous orchestra pit mediation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49914293) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM Author: free-loading seedy pocket flask windowlicker he's appropriately rated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796444) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM Author: Misanthropic Slap-happy Stage lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796446) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796448) |
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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM Author: Boyish puce hall brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49797805) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM Author: motley gold base Pedro was better (than anyone). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796514) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM Author: free-loading seedy pocket flask windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796561) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM Author: Amethyst brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49799608) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM Author: multi-colored set He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani
If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 6:42 AM Author: Dun marketing idea chad Don't drop those BW3s Flamin' Dorito(TM) Hot wings on your crisp new steph curry jersey, cuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49914343) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM Author: violent bawdyhouse Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49796577) |
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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM Author: trip church he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49797104) |
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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49797818) |
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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM Author: Boyish puce hall brethren He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49797984) |
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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM Author: trip church yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49798932) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM Author: Boyish puce hall brethren Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49799605) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 6:44 AM Author: Dun marketing idea chad Oh yeah that is the relevant metric when discussing GOAT vs. mere HOF mlb pitching, thanks chung li. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49914344) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:17 AM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49914271) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:31 AM Author: Lemon private investor area do not google.
there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or greater. name them. |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:36 AM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage Randy Johnson
Clemmons
Pedro
Ryan
Glavine
Babe Ruth
Scherzer
Seaver
cy Young
Maddux
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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:43 AM Author: Lemon private investor area this career WAR. you got these right.
1. Cy Young+ (22) 165.9 7356.0 R 3. Roger Clemens (24) 138.7 4916.2 R 7. Tom Seaver+ (20) 106.0 4783.0 R 8. Greg Maddux+ (23) 104.8 5008.1 R 9. Randy Johnson+ (22) 103.5 4135.1 L
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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:57 AM Author: brindle greedy rigor nibblets Subject: No Goog Clayton Kershaw
Curt Schilling
Mariano Rivera
Bob Gibson |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:33 AM Author: Slimy stimulating box office Rivera would have had to pitch for ~40 years to get 100 WAR. Relievers just don't get enough innings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49914413) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:34 AM Author: Lemon private investor area cr. he's in 80th place for career WAR. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49914415) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:10 AM Author: appetizing persian ratface Walter Johnson Christy Mathewson Steve Carlton |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:33 AM Author: Lemon private investor area Rank Player (yrs, age) WAR for Pitchers IP Throws 1. Cy Young+ (22) 165.9 7356.0 R 2. Walter Johnson+ (21) 155.4 5914.1 R 3. Roger Clemens (24) 138.7 4916.2 R 4. Kid Nichols+ (15) 119.0 5067.1 R 5. Grover Alexander+ (20) 116.9 5190.0 R 6. Lefty Grove+ (17) 113.2 3940.2 L 7. Tom Seaver+ (20) 106.0 4783.0 R 8. Greg Maddux+ (23) 104.8 5008.1 R 9. Randy Johnson+ (22) 103.5 4135.1 L 10. Christy Mathewson+ (17) 100.6 4788.2 R 11. Phil Niekro+ (24) 97.0 5404.0 R |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 3:12 PM Author: appetizing persian ratface Tom Seaver and Phil Niekro have more war than Carlton? Would not have guessed that
Never heard of kid nichols |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 5:26 PM Author: Lemon private investor area old timer with most of his appearances in the 1800s. still, "Nichols recorded a 27–19 win–loss record, a 2.23 earned run average (ERA) and 222 strikeouts, beginning a string of 10 consecutive seasons with 20 wins or more. Nichols also had a major league record seven 30-win seasons in this time (1891–1894, 1896–1898) with a career high of 35 in 1892." that'll give you quite a career WAR. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49915788) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 4:10 PM Author: floppy dark stock car theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2#49915541) |