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Halp Bros--Old Law Firm Stole My Couch
| bonkers swashbuckling kitty | 10/04/12 |
| Ocher Comical Meetinghouse Hissy Fit | 10/04/12 |
| big vermilion mother | 10/04/12 |
| orchid histrionic puppy | 10/05/12 |
| ebony cerebral point | 10/04/12 |
| excitant seedy address love of her life | 10/04/12 |
| Arrogant Odious Deer Antler | 10/04/12 |
| Cobalt underhanded home | 10/04/12 |
| violent principal's office telephone | 10/04/12 |
| orchid histrionic puppy | 10/04/12 |
| Aromatic Bistre Lay | 05/12/22 |
| orchid histrionic puppy | 10/04/12 |
| bisexual cruel-hearted tanning salon karate | 10/04/12 |
| orchid histrionic puppy | 10/04/12 |
| jade toilet seat codepig | 10/04/12 |
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| multi-colored beta school | 05/27/17 |
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| orchid histrionic puppy | 11/28/12 |
| dashing goal in life house | 12/06/13 |
| shaky wine bawdyhouse nowag | 12/06/13 |
| Arrogant Odious Deer Antler | 05/27/17 |
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| twisted stag film | 10/04/12 |
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| twisted stag film | 10/04/12 |
| orchid histrionic puppy | 10/04/12 |
| vigorous brunch | 10/04/12 |
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| aqua heaven | 05/27/17 |
| #pwned | 10/31/26 |
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| Arrogant Odious Deer Antler | 05/27/17 |
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| Aromatic Bistre Lay | 08/28/21 |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:28 PM Author: bonkers swashbuckling kitty I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started with this firm, I purchased a couch to nap on between 2pm and 3pm each day, schedule permitting. I was packing up my office last weekend and brought a friend along to help move the couch out. The partner happened to be there and said "not so fast, that's my couch." I calmly explained I had purchased it and brought it in to the office to nap on. He called it an "abandoned fixture" and said under some county ordinance it belonged to him. Halp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716858) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:14 PM Author: Ocher Comical Meetinghouse Hissy Fit take it and make him stop you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717732) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:50 PM Author: big vermilion mother Lmao! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719984) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 11:10 AM Author: orchid histrionic puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722011) |
Date: October 4th, 2012 5:32 PM Author: ebony cerebral point what state? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716895) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:23 PM Author: excitant seedy address love of her life lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717373) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:30 PM Author: Arrogant Odious Deer Antler lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717412) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:35 PM Author: Cobalt underhanded home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717441) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:39 PM Author: violent principal's office telephone fuckin' steve (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717460) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:17 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy shitlaw steve (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719624) |
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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:18 PM Author: Aromatic Bistre Lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#44501339) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:46 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may have a right to the furniture. The common law rule is that whatsoever is fixed to the realty is thereby made a part of the realty to which it adheres. However, the new, prevailing rule is that tenants may remove whatever they install for the purpose of carrying on a trade (i.e. trade fixtures), provided that they can be uninstalled without injury to the premises, and that such removal is effected before they yield possession of the premises. Arguably, the couch was a trade fixture--you put it in your office for the purpose of aiding you in carrying on your trade as a lawyer. Given that you can remove it without injury to the premises, and because you haven't completely yielded possession of the premises, I think you have a colorable claim that you have a right to that couch, notwithstanding any extant ordinances. The rationale behind this rule is that it is conducive to trade and commerce. The tenant installs things for the benefit of carrying on his trade, not to enhance the landlord's realty.
You should also be aware that there are other theories that may be applied to these circumstances, depending on what jurisdiction you're in. There is the institutional theory: additions to the realty become a part of an economic unit, and therefore become the landlord's property.
I sincerely xoxohth. Let me know if you have any questions or if I need to clarify or expand on anything.
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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:08 PM Author: bisexual cruel-hearted tanning salon karate 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717675) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:07 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718985) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:08 PM Author: jade toilet seat codepig Lol xoxo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718995) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:11 AM Author: Maize dead water buffalo becky The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitlaw firm is some sort of coöp structured like a salon where you rent your own chair/office. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720779) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 4:26 AM Author: big-titted stock car Couches aren't fixtures of any type. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720974) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:46 AM Author: orchid histrionic puppy Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shitlaw steve, I would bring multiple claims if I was helping OP get his couch back. The aforesaid analysis is merely a possible argument if my other more cogent arguments fail. Look at it as a sort of quasi-landlord-tenant argument, perhaps. Surely, though, there is an argument to be made under the doctrine of finders. Let’s see what that analysis would look like, shall we? The rule of finders is that the finder of property has a right to that property against all the world except the true owner or prior possessor. In this case, OP is the true owner and prior possessor. Therefore, his boss does not have a right to that property. However, bossman is claiming that OP abandoned the couch. In order for one to abandon something, there must be an act of abandonment and intent to abandon. I’ll go ahead and concede that there was an act of abandonment; there is surely an argument that there was. However, OP never intended to abandon the property, as evidenced by his return to the premises in order to retrieve said property. Therefore, the property was not abandoned. Thus, again, OP has a colorable claim that he has a right to that couch.
Again, I sincerely xoxohth. Do let me know if I need to clarify or expand on anything.
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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:05 PM Author: fear-inspiring rambunctious corner This is so 180. Well done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722470) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:06 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy tyty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723397) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:17 PM Author: glassy gaping 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723458) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2013 11:20 PM Author: Mahogany Contagious Field Pozpig 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#23915695) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:49 PM Author: multi-colored beta school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409163) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:11 PM Author: vigorous brunch Bigfinderskeeperslaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809764) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 7:07 AM Author: galvanic property 180 if real, 180 if not real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721095) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:39 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723576) |
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Date: November 28th, 2012 10:30 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#22130665) |
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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:34 AM Author: dashing goal in life house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579596) |
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Date: December 6th, 2013 2:24 PM Author: shaky wine bawdyhouse nowag 180 well done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24581212) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM Author: Arrogant Odious Deer Antler Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looking for here is manifestly mislaid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409172) |
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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:24 PM Author: laughsome lilac stead lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#44501373) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:09 PM Author: twisted stag film Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing felony jail time if they added up all the office supplies I stole over the years.
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:15 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy why do you steal from your employer bro? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719060) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:16 PM Author: twisted stag film I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I think I'm kinda planning to build a yacht out of post-its. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719075) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy sweet good luck bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719119) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM Author: vigorous brunch thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719117) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:24 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy It's one of his alts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719163) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:19 PM Author: Metal laser beams Flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719634) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:43 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719909) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:18 AM Author: outnumbered drab institution You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way is a couch a fixture. In no way have you abandoned it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721248) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:08 PM Author: Beady-eyed casino tank Fuck yo couch!
Buy another one you rich motherfucker!
Darkness is! Darkness is! |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 6:42 PM Author: orchid histrionic puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21725143) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:59 PM Author: aqua heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409210) |
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Date: October 31st, 2026 12:34 PM Author: #pwned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#50217865) |
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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:29 AM Author: Mahogany Contagious Field Pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579568) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM Author: Arrogant Odious Deer Antler Please sue. Best law suit ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409168) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:01 PM Author: Concupiscible turquoise preventive strike locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809690) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:33 PM Author: flatulent ceo internal respiration lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your an employee (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809893) |
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Date: August 28th, 2021 12:54 PM Author: Aromatic Bistre Lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#43023653) |