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Halp Bros--Old Law Firm Stole My Couch

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started w...
jet-lagged cheese-eating stag film
  10/04/12
take it and make him stop you
abusive state private investor
  10/04/12
Lmao!
Mind-boggling buck-toothed institution
  10/04/12
...
topaz liquid oxygen
  10/05/12
what state?
odious spot
  10/04/12
lol
Narrow-minded fortuitous meteor chad
  10/04/12
lol
soul-stirring site preventive strike
  10/04/12
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Rough-skinned Set Mexican
  10/04/12
fuckin' steve
Glittery filthy forum faggot firefighter
  10/04/12
shitlaw steve
topaz liquid oxygen
  10/04/12
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cerebral police squad church
  05/12/22
If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may hav...
topaz liquid oxygen
  10/04/12
180
galvanic shrine trump supporter
  10/04/12
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topaz liquid oxygen
  10/04/12
Lol xoxo
Multi-colored high-end area
  10/04/12
The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitl...
silver twisted address water buffalo
  10/05/12
Couches aren't fixtures of any type.
Tripping yellow plaza hunting ground
  10/05/12
Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shit...
topaz liquid oxygen
  10/05/12
This is so 180. Well done.
sepia public bath volcanic crater
  10/05/12
tyty
topaz liquid oxygen
  10/05/12
180
vibrant ivory library
  10/05/12
180
jet dashing ceo knife
  08/22/13
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Appetizing black woman
  05/27/17
Bigfinderskeeperslaw
emerald point scourge upon the earth
  07/19/17
180 if real, 180 if not real
bat-shit-crazy pungent locale mediation
  10/05/12
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topaz liquid oxygen
  10/05/12
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topaz liquid oxygen
  11/28/12
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slate self-absorbed range
  12/06/13
180 well done.
Fuchsia travel guidebook
  12/06/13
Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looki...
soul-stirring site preventive strike
  05/27/17
...
Hot mustard university brethren
  05/12/22
Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing f...
Sinister Sexy Field
  10/04/12
why do you steal from your employer bro?
topaz liquid oxygen
  10/04/12
I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I thi...
Sinister Sexy Field
  10/04/12
sweet good luck bro
topaz liquid oxygen
  10/04/12
thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer
emerald point scourge upon the earth
  10/04/12
It's one of his alts
topaz liquid oxygen
  10/04/12
Flame.
underhanded rehab
  10/04/12
cr
topaz liquid oxygen
  10/04/12
You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way ...
lascivious iridescent house factory reset button
  10/05/12
Fuck yo couch! Buy another one you rich motherfucker! ...
opaque indian lodge ratface
  10/05/12
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topaz liquid oxygen
  10/05/12
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Aromatic Patrolman
  05/27/17
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#pwned
  10/31/26
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jet dashing ceo knife
  12/06/13
Please sue. Best law suit ever.
soul-stirring site preventive strike
  05/27/17
...
Laughsome buff cruise ship
  07/19/17
lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your...
Fighting chrome trailer park community account
  07/19/17
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cerebral police squad church
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お尻のほっぺた
  10/31/26


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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: jet-lagged cheese-eating stag film

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started with this firm, I purchased a couch to nap on between 2pm and 3pm each day, schedule permitting. I was packing up my office last weekend and brought a friend along to help move the couch out. The partner happened to be there and said "not so fast, that's my couch." I calmly explained I had purchased it and brought it in to the office to nap on. He called it an "abandoned fixture" and said under some county ordinance it belonged to him. Halp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716858)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:14 PM
Author: abusive state private investor

take it and make him stop you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717732)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:50 PM
Author: Mind-boggling buck-toothed institution

Lmao!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719984)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen



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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: odious spot

what state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716895)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:23 PM
Author: Narrow-minded fortuitous meteor chad

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717373)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:30 PM
Author: soul-stirring site preventive strike

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717412)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:35 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Set Mexican



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:39 PM
Author: Glittery filthy forum faggot firefighter

fuckin' steve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717460)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:17 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen

shitlaw steve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719624)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:18 PM
Author: cerebral police squad church



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:46 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen

If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may have a right to the furniture. The common law rule is that whatsoever is fixed to the realty is thereby made a part of the realty to which it adheres. However, the new, prevailing rule is that tenants may remove whatever they install for the purpose of carrying on a trade (i.e. trade fixtures), provided that they can be uninstalled without injury to the premises, and that such removal is effected before they yield possession of the premises. Arguably, the couch was a trade fixture--you put it in your office for the purpose of aiding you in carrying on your trade as a lawyer. Given that you can remove it without injury to the premises, and because you haven't completely yielded possession of the premises, I think you have a colorable claim that you have a right to that couch, notwithstanding any extant ordinances. The rationale behind this rule is that it is conducive to trade and commerce. The tenant installs things for the benefit of carrying on his trade, not to enhance the landlord's realty.

You should also be aware that there are other theories that may be applied to these circumstances, depending on what jurisdiction you're in. There is the institutional theory: additions to the realty become a part of an economic unit, and therefore become the landlord's property.

I sincerely xoxohth. Let me know if you have any questions or if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717502)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:08 PM
Author: galvanic shrine trump supporter

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717675)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Multi-colored high-end area

Lol xoxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718995)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:11 AM
Author: silver twisted address water buffalo

The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitlaw firm is some sort of coöp structured like a salon where you rent your own chair/office. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720779)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 4:26 AM
Author: Tripping yellow plaza hunting ground

Couches aren't fixtures of any type.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720974)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:46 AM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen

Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shitlaw steve, I would bring multiple claims if I was helping OP get his couch back. The aforesaid analysis is merely a possible argument if my other more cogent arguments fail. Look at it as a sort of quasi-landlord-tenant argument, perhaps. Surely, though, there is an argument to be made under the doctrine of finders. Let’s see what that analysis would look like, shall we? The rule of finders is that the finder of property has a right to that property against all the world except the true owner or prior possessor. In this case, OP is the true owner and prior possessor. Therefore, his boss does not have a right to that property. However, bossman is claiming that OP abandoned the couch. In order for one to abandon something, there must be an act of abandonment and intent to abandon. I’ll go ahead and concede that there was an act of abandonment; there is surely an argument that there was. However, OP never intended to abandon the property, as evidenced by his return to the premises in order to retrieve said property. Therefore, the property was not abandoned. Thus, again, OP has a colorable claim that he has a right to that couch.

Again, I sincerely xoxohth. Do let me know if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721355)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:05 PM
Author: sepia public bath volcanic crater

This is so 180. Well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722470)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:06 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen

tyty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723397)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:17 PM
Author: vibrant ivory library

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723458)



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Date: August 22nd, 2013 11:20 PM
Author: jet dashing ceo knife

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#23915695)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: Appetizing black woman



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:11 PM
Author: emerald point scourge upon the earth

Bigfinderskeeperslaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809764)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 7:07 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy pungent locale mediation

180 if real, 180 if not real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721095)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:39 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723576)



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Date: November 28th, 2012 10:30 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#22130665)



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:34 AM
Author: slate self-absorbed range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579596)



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Date: December 6th, 2013 2:24 PM
Author: Fuchsia travel guidebook

180 well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24581212)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: soul-stirring site preventive strike

Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looking for here is manifestly mislaid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409172)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:24 PM
Author: Hot mustard university brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#44501373)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Sinister Sexy Field

Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing felony jail time if they added up all the office supplies I stole over the years.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718998)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen

why do you steal from your employer bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719060)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: Sinister Sexy Field

I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I think I'm kinda planning to build a yacht out of post-its.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719075)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen

sweet good luck bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719119)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: emerald point scourge upon the earth

thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719117)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen

It's one of his alts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719163)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:19 PM
Author: underhanded rehab

Flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719634)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:43 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719909)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:18 AM
Author: lascivious iridescent house factory reset button

You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way is a couch a fixture. In no way have you abandoned it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721248)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: opaque indian lodge ratface

Fuck yo couch!

Buy another one you rich motherfucker!

Darkness is! Darkness is!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722501)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 6:42 PM
Author: topaz liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21725143)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: Aromatic Patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409210)



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Date: October 31st, 2026 12:34 PM
Author: #pwned



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#50217865)



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:29 AM
Author: jet dashing ceo knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579568)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: soul-stirring site preventive strike

Please sue. Best law suit ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409168)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: Laughsome buff cruise ship



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:33 PM
Author: Fighting chrome trailer park community account

lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your an employee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809893)



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Date: August 28th, 2021 12:54 PM
Author: cerebral police squad church



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Date: October 31st, 2026 2:00 PM
Author: お尻のほっぺた (βœ…πŸ‘)



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