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High IQ and ability to react in real time are not correlated
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Date: September 16th, 2024 10:46 AM Author: ,.,....,.,.,.,...,.,.,...,.,.,.,, Discuss (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094096) |
Date: September 16th, 2024 10:47 AM Author: completely deranged lunatic Reaction time is literally one of the most correlated characteristics with iq that exists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094101) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 10:48 AM Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?) - (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094103) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 10:54 AM Author: ADVANCED darkness (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094128) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 12:07 PM Author: peeface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094537) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:49 PM Author: A Technologically Advanced Pontiac Firebird (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095120) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:50 PM Author: A Technologically Advanced Pontiac Firebird We’ll see what unfolds, guy who responded in one minute (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095124) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 10:49 AM Author: Reverend Right High IQ is a hindrance beyond the 90th percentile. Ideally you want 90th percentile intelligence and emotional IQ. The world is your oyster at that level. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094107) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 10:54 AM Author: ADVANCED darkness (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) I'm very happy being 99th percentile in both (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094131) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: Reverend Right Protip: LSAT 99th percentile != 99th percentile (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094134) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 10:59 AM Author: ADVANCED darkness (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) no u (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094165) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:06 AM Author: puff daddy It definitely does.
Half of people do not go to college and competition in the LSAT are already in the top half or top 60% roughly of intelligence. Among college graduates who take the LSAT, the median score is 150. Someone scoring in the 99% percentile is likely 99% in intelligence. |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:11 AM Author: ADVANCED darkness (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) supposedly, the median LSAT score (150) is consistent with an IQ just a hair about median (around 105), so that all checks out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094215) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:13 AM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; A 99th % LSAT means you studied hardest/best. A person who can take an LSAT cold and get a 90th % score is a better indication that they are 99th % intelligence than a 170+ score. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094222) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:17 AM Author: puff daddy The overwhelming majority of people who take the LSAT study for it. Intelligence is the difference, not preparation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094236) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 6:47 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; lol no. There is a massive difference in outcomes depending purely on how many practice problems you saw before the test. It’s the most superstudy-friendly grad entrance exam by far other than the GMAT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48096191) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:23 AM Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?) i dont think top intelligence ppl Take the LSAT in first place so...
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:26 AM Author: sure, bud, sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094260) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:32 AM Author: puff daddy The top 1% definitely does. The top one hundredth of one percent may not, but that wouldn't matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094307) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:34 AM Author: ADVANCED darkness (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) the top 0.01% takes the GRE for STEM PhD programs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094320) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 12:13 PM Author: ,..,,,,,,....,,,..., GRE is irrelevant for top stem PhDs. Everyone is at the top of the range and test doesn’t have enough power to distinguish within the top group. It’s all about research and connections with professors in the field (which does require IQ but also other factors). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094555) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 1:33 PM Author: Reverend Right LJL at how hard you are coping ITT. College attendance in the United States*, which is what you're talking about since 99% of LSAT takers are American, is a piss-poor selector for IQ. You're excluding everyone else all over the world, and you're also excluding truly brilliant people that never attend college. The non-LSAT-taking-college student population isn't enough of a sample to isolate the LSAT as an IQ tell.
I sincerely hope this motherfucking helps, faggot. |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 10:56 AM Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?) Can you give us videos on how to improve Emotional IQ like a masterclass ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094136) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 10:58 AM Author: sure, bud, sure is it really true that high IQ people are socially dysfunctional? i haven't noticed this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094163) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:04 AM Author: Reverend Right Many are not. But this board hangs its hat on high IQ and the majority are social outcasts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094187) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:11 AM Author: ADVANCED darkness (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) Life is one long IQ test. You can try to deny it, but you would be wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094217) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:23 PM Author: Misanthropic Provocative Gay Wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095008) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:23 PM Author: Misanthropic Provocative Gay Wizard It's true but at much rarer levels of IQ than the 90th percentile. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095013) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:17 PM Author: Misanthropic Provocative Gay Wizard The point you make is true but it's far off from where you're claiming it is; the issue comes in around the 99.99 or maybe even 99.999 percentile. Your cutoff is around 120. But bros with IQs in the 130s, 140s, maybe somewhere into the 150s aren't being hindered, they're crushing it. You only get the weird-as-fuck super genius issues as you get toward 160+ and even then it'll vary on a case by case basis depending on the neurological wiring in ways we can't really understand. I do agree with you that emotional intelligence is also key but people in the range I'm discussing have no issue with emotional intelligence and in fact are typically adept at it; I'd actually argue a guy at your cutpoint of 120 will struggle more with emotional intelligence than someone in my example range at 140. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094993) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:53 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; The reason why the issues start to show up in the 130s and increase in the 140s and 150s is that high IQs correlate with less productive types of thinking like rumination, especially when high IQs are poorly deployed/bored/frustrated. Also there is definitely a relationship between very high IQs and ugliness/lack of sexual attractiveness. See also the very high instance of high IQs with depressive and anxious personality disorders. Being high IQ and a handsome Chad is a great way to experience life, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095135) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:53 PM Author: Reverend Right Yeah I'm open to drawing the line elsewhere though I don't think it's as high as you think. Around 90th percentile you have a greater ability to relate to others and empathize with them, and I think those are core components of emotional intelligence. But the main point I want to emphasize is that high IQ alone is less desirable than slightly lower but still high IQ and high EQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095137) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:11 AM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Read Thinking Fast and Slow. Two different skills, can correlate with IQ overall, but it’s very common for people who have elite genetics for fast thinking to do well at it and ride that success to preftigious outcomes, and then struggle when they shift into a phase of life where slow thinking is more valued/valuable.
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:14 AM Author: Kenneth Play (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094225) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:44 AM Author: \'\'\"\'\'\'\"\'\'\'\"\' example? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094391) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 6:29 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Review xoxohth.com and revert with your findings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48096116) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 11:50 AM Author: completely deranged lunatic That isn't the book's thesis at all lmao
High IQ people are good at both of those things |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 12:18 PM Author: ,..,,,,,,....,,,..., If you think high IQ people who think fast are good at creative thinking to slowly solve complex problems, you have spent very little time in BigLaw and BigCorp. So, so much time spent impulsively reacting and thinking one step ahead. Almost no strategy. Strategy is really hard even for smart people if they’ve been trained to react quickly and aggressively and try to accumulate small wins and prove that they’re on top of the immediate crisis and battling direct competition. Also stress destroys strategic thinking and we’ve created a mode of living and working with constant stress. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094578) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 12:24 PM Author: completely deranged lunatic Are you aware that nobody under ~125 IQ is even physiologically able to "strategically" think or consider anything beyond immediate second-order effects?
Ok, you can say that not every high IQ person is *necessarily* good at solving long-term complex problems - at least not relatively good at it compared to their mental acuity in real time. But below a certain IQ threshold an individual Literally Cannot Abstractly Think *at all* |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 1:29 PM Author: Risten Yes we all understand most people are retarded. There was a poaster called Harrison who insisted on pointing out specific instances where the general rule may not apply. You sound like him.
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:10 PM Author: ,..,,,,,,....,,,..., I second the poaster above. Everyone here knows that retards are all around - even on this elite board, and when you go outside it gets even worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48094976) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:33 PM Author: Misanthropic Provocative Gay Wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095058) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:37 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Again this is not responsive to my original poast in this subthread and indicates real struggles with understanding the second order effects of the thesis of the book Thinking Fast and Slow. You are too obsessed with IQ supremacy to absorb a basic point. Sorry about your tiny pink sub 115 IQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095076) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:31 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095045) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:58 PM Author: A Technologically Advanced Pontiac Firebird Lmao. You’re mixing up a lot of things in your head, particularly raw IQ and process-oriented thinking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095148) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 6:50 PM Author: hank_scorpio that's literally just judgment, or wisdom, it is not a function of iq or a special type of thinking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48096212) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:33 PM Author: Misanthropic Provocative Gay Wizard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095056) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:34 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Your response indicates low IQ. There is a genetic component to both that is likely correlated. The book doesn’t discuss a lot of the specifics of developing slow thinking, but it’s obvious to anyone who has spent any time observing high achieving fast thinkers that a lot of them suck at thinking slow despite having a genetic predisposition to be able to do it well. The subtext of the book is that we are increasingly governed by fast thinking at the expense of slow thinking and that’s a bad thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095063) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:39 PM Author: Misanthropic Provocative Gay Wizard lol you are too wrapped up in this false dichotomy. It reminds me of Isaiah Berlin's fox-hedgehog distinction. There may be an interesting thought in there that can stimulate discussion (e.g., the differences between "fast" and "slow" thinking) but it's not meant to be taken too seriously as an actual organizing rule. There isn't some great cross-hatch between Hi / Lo / Fast / Slow -- people with high IQs can typically engage in both styles of thinking. I suspect your position is being informed by a separate realization, which is that some people who are fast talkers don't know shit but that's a different issue in society. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095087) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:48 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; The point is that slow thinking is far more a product of cultivation than fast thinking, which is much more a product of pure reps and natural ability. A person can rep over and over their slow thinking, especially in a CYA corporate environment, and never get much better at it. And you are right in the sense that higher IQs are more likely to think through their mistakes and try to correct them just on their own individual basis. But the entire point of large GC orgs is that they pool knowledge and skills, and so one would expect that they would devise means of cultivating elite collective slow thinking and developing their talent to improve slow thinking, but they very much don’t. Being slow at a fast thinking task is easy to notice and either correct or eliminate at scale using familiar corporate bureaucratic methods. This is why so many different parts of GC are great at cultivating fast thinkers and shit at cultivating slow thinking/thinkers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095118) |
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Date: September 16th, 2024 2:58 PM Author: completely deranged lunatic Cr and good invoking of Fox and hedgehog (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5595643&forum_id=2#48095149) |