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Man arrested for creating fake music with AI & making over $10M in royalties

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how this coppers have time for this shit when theres so much...
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  09/07/24
TSWIFT im a NY LOLer. can I take this case pro boner?
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  09/07/24
Where can i hear his fake songs
Clear orchestra pit sound barrier
  09/07/24
read the indictment. it's so bad.
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  09/07/24
What law is he breaking here? Idk I’m not a doctor
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literally the TERMS OF SERVICE: https://i.imgur.com/tYRm18p....
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lmao
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SMITH "agree[d] not to engage in (or to permit, encoura...
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wtf
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"On or about March 3, 2023, SMITH falsely represented t...
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this seems like it should be a civil charge, paying some res...
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honestly, if they banned him & refused to pay up, it'd b...
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That's not a law
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  09/07/24
Seems perfectly legal to me. Maybe don’t host streamin...
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Also, it's quite ableistic & aspersive for the SDNY to s...
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Agreed. DOJ is surprisingly anthropocentric in its assumptio...
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Sometimes I leave my music streaming when I leave the house ...
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  09/07/24
Cr Spotify needs to come up with a way to see if you're actu...
Sickened shivering party of the first part
  09/07/24
They make you get one of Elon’s microchips implanted i...
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Maybe the SDNY can apply their reasoning to the ISPs because...
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"jiggle the mouse" TP
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I don’t stream music/never have/never will. I have no ...
Angry resort potus
  09/07/24
How else would we train a CLAP model ?
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  09/07/24
The artist naming convention also followed a somewhat simila...
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so they did this to steal an election and .... nothing? but...
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dude sounds pretty smart. i wonder what he's previously don...
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LJL CASE CLOSED: https://i.imgur.com/Ckj4aXI.png
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The lesson here is dont answer inquiries. The fraud is in th...
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  09/07/24
Do this but after moving to Morocco or Ecuador.
claret school hairy legs
  09/07/24
Those shitboxes will extradite you -- Russia or China wont.
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  09/07/24
They're seriously underselling his music: "You Look ...
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The INTEGRITY of the MUSIC INDUSTRY cannot be besmirched!
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  09/07/24
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1413/35/141335556819...
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  09/07/24
Lets say I do this but am not greedy and only pull $1 millio...
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There are loads of people doing this fraud in various way ri...
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...
Supple buff nursing home
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doesnt sound illegal at all. of course he has a vague name a...
hot theatre
  09/07/24
This article and the indictment are AI generated
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  09/07/24
...
Coiffed Spot
  09/07/24
Xiaoma "Mike" Li
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So who lost the $10 mm here? I assume these bots aren't payi...
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  09/07/24
This is the key question. If there are bots listening to fak...
Sickened shivering party of the first part
  09/07/24
Never cross the streams.
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...
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This is so clearly government overreach
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Oh, I see the problem. He wasn't content to just generate AI...
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Date: September 7th, 2024 8:44 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

https://futurism.com/man-arrested-fake-bands-streams-ai

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/north-carolina-musician-charged-music-streaming-fraud-aided-artificial-intelligence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059500)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:05 AM
Author: Motley circlehead crackhouse

how this coppers have time for this shit when theres so much real crime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059542)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:32 AM
Author: Plum black woman locale

TSWIFT im a NY LOLer. can I take this case pro boner?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059590)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 8:50 AM
Author: Clear orchestra pit sound barrier

Where can i hear his fake songs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059514)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 8:59 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

read the indictment. it's so bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059531)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 8:52 AM
Author: Know-it-all Copper Casino

What law is he breaking here? Idk I’m not a doctor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059520)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:01 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

literally the TERMS OF SERVICE: https://i.imgur.com/tYRm18p.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059535)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:04 AM
Author: Know-it-all Copper Casino

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059540)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:09 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

SMITH "agree[d] not to engage in (or to permit, encourage, enlist, retain, or employ third parties to engage in), activities that, in [Distribution Company-l]'s sole discretion, constitute Streaming Manipulation."

QED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059547)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:25 AM
Author: azure vibrant boiling water center

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059568)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:31 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

"On or about March 3, 2023, SMITH falsely represented to Distribution Company-2 that he would not engage in fraudulent streaming."

judge should max him out on each charge & sentence him consecutively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059586)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:32 AM
Author: azure vibrant boiling water center

this seems like it should be a civil charge, paying some restitution, and maybe he helps the platforms build safeguards to stop this. the platforms should be like "good one, you got us pretty good"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059591)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:36 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

honestly, if they banned him & refused to pay up, it'd be worth suing them for breach of contract because who's to fucking say when the degree of usage meets or exceeds the threshold necessary for royalties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059595)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 3:26 PM
Author: kink-friendly bright half-breed dilemma

That's not a law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060467)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:02 AM
Author: Angry resort potus

Seems perfectly legal to me. Maybe don’t host streaming platforms if you don’t want bots to listen?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059537)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:06 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

Also, it's quite ableistic & aspersive for the SDNY to suggest that "listening" can't be accomplished by machine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059543)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:09 AM
Author: Angry resort potus

Agreed. DOJ is surprisingly anthropocentric in its assumptions here. What if the guy is like, I was making music for my audience, which is non-human. It’s art, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059545)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:11 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

Sometimes I leave my music streaming when I leave the house and no one's there to hear it. Does that mean I'm engaging in WIRE FRAUD?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059548)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:15 AM
Author: Sickened shivering party of the first part

Cr Spotify needs to come up with a way to see if you're actually PAYING ATTENTION to the tune. Maybe jiggle the mouse every couple of minutes. And take a quiz on what you heard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059551)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:18 AM
Author: Angry resort potus

They make you get one of Elon’s microchips implanted in your brain so they can monitor your brain’s chemical reactions.

Lawyers! Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead on the ToS updates!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059556)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:24 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

Maybe the SDNY can apply their reasoning to the ISPs because they charge me based on "usage," which in my sole discretion means whatever I want it to mean and doesn't mean whatever they claim it means

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059567)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:31 AM
Author: Plum black woman locale

"jiggle the mouse" TP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059588)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:37 AM
Author: Sickened shivering party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059596)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:16 AM
Author: Angry resort potus

I don’t stream music/never have/never will. I have no idea what this crap is even for.

I hardly stream shows. Like once per month I try to stream but there’s nothing worth watching so I just go on xo or whatnot. That is my life. Sucked down into the digital rabbit hole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059552)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:42 AM
Author: well-lubricated adulterous filthpig azn

How else would we train a CLAP model ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059834)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:27 AM
Author: Light Alcoholic Idea He Suggested

The artist naming convention also followed a somewhat similar pattern, with names ranging from the normal-sounding "Calvin Mann" to head-scratchers like "Calorie Event," "Calms Scorching," and "Calypso Xored."

How about "Butthole Surfers", "Toad the Wet Sprocket" and "Panic! At the Disco". Are those "head-scratchers"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059576)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:30 AM
Author: Plum black woman locale

so they did this to steal an election and .... nothing? but this kid pumps up his views and he gets arrested over chump change?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059585)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:31 AM
Author: azure vibrant boiling water center

dude sounds pretty smart. i wonder what he's previously done for work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059587)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:06 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

LJL CASE CLOSED: https://i.imgur.com/Ckj4aXI.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059730)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:08 AM
Author: irradiated prole factory reset button

The lesson here is dont answer inquiries. The fraud is in the lying not the doing. He should have told them "trade secret, not discussing, suck my dick."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059738)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 3:18 PM
Author: Coiffed Spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060438)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:10 AM
Author: claret school hairy legs

Do this but after moving to Morocco or Ecuador.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059740)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:14 AM
Author: irradiated prole factory reset button

Those shitboxes will extradite you -- Russia or China wont.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059751)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:27 AM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

They're seriously underselling his music:

"You Look Like You Could Use A Fuckin' Lamp" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gHl4P7AXt0

"I Glued My Balls To My Butthole Again" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPlOYPGMRws

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059779)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:42 AM
Author: well-lubricated adulterous filthpig azn

The INTEGRITY of the MUSIC INDUSTRY cannot be besmirched!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059831)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:42 PM
Author: emerald hospital

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1413/35/1413355568196.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48061247)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:45 AM
Author: irradiated prole factory reset button

Lets say I do this but am not greedy and only pull $1 million from these cunts. Odds of prosecution?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059846)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:46 AM
Author: Light Alcoholic Idea He Suggested

There are loads of people doing this fraud in various way right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059854)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 12:11 PM
Author: Supple buff nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059934)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 12:21 PM
Author: hot theatre

doesnt sound illegal at all. of course he has a vague name and there are no pictures so who knows if he even exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059978)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 12:25 PM
Author: soul-stirring address

This article and the indictment are AI generated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48059984)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 3:18 PM
Author: Coiffed Spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060439)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

Xiaoma "Mike" Li

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060007)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Site

So who lost the $10 mm here? I assume these bots aren't paying $9.99 a month. So were they ad-supported accounts?

Is the streamer going to refund the ad money to the advertisers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060062)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 1:13 PM
Author: Sickened shivering party of the first part

This is the key question. If there are bots listening to fake music there are bots listening to real music which means Spotify is getting paid by advertisers to run their ads to fake accounts with no real people there. It sounds like Spotify is committing fraud. They are the ones collecting a check for nothing. It sounds like they have absolutely no idea how many real customers they actually have, less the ones paying the monthly fee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060102)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 1:00 PM
Author: Carmine wonderful forum

Never cross the streams.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060080)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 4:25 PM
Author: Supple buff nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060578)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 4:33 PM
Author: mustard lascivious generalized bond brunch

https://suno.com/song/065bf151-d2e5-482e-9131-5bf4a1927637

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060589)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 4:33 PM
Author: mustard lascivious generalized bond brunch

https://suno.com/song/da3e0cd5-fc46-4271-bab3-7caf8a8b3ac1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48060590)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:43 PM
Author: galvanic french national dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48061252)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:38 PM
Author: Supple buff nursing home

This is so clearly government overreach

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48061236)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 9:42 PM
Author: Navy juggernaut electric furnace

Oh, I see the problem. He wasn't content to just generate AI music, he was faking the views to defraud the advertisers. Makes sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48061249)



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Date: September 7th, 2024 11:32 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Site

Yeah i don't get why anyone is up in arms here. This fits the bill of like 50 different common law and statutory fraud laws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5590248&forum_id=2#48061528)