Date: September 16th, 2026 4:27 PM Author: Fracture in the Maidenhead (gunneratttt)
You're very willing to trust the experts when it comes to COVID, climate change, etc and mock people here for dismissing concerns because they have a poor understanding. Yet in this situation you're doing the exact same thing.
Date: September 16th, 2026 7:30 PM Author: Fracture in the Maidenhead (gunneratttt)
This is really no different than Consuela claiming to have a good understanding of COVID an you know it. Slyly moving the goalposts to broadly understanding of the theory of the extinction threat versus expert opinons about it is like Consuela saying he understands what a pandemic is and that's how he knows it isn't one.
Date: September 16th, 2026 7:37 PM Author: supple potus death wish
Can you link to some of the “expert opinions” describing the AI extinction threat, so that I can study them and learn? (Ideally the expert will describe the mechanism, rather than just saying “AI is crazy and we don’t know what will happen, so the end result is likely human extinction.”)
Date: September 16th, 2026 8:40 PM Author: supple potus death wish
"And then when the AIs create their own competing militaries, they will view humans in the same way that we view ants when we build highways."
Did you see the part of my request where I said "Ideally the expert will describe the mechanism"?
I've got a climate extinction scenario that's equally terrifying: "And then when the climate crisis creates a feedback loop whereby the mean global temperature reaches 140F, humans will become extinct because we can't live at a mean temperature of 140F."
Date: September 16th, 2026 10:23 PM Author: Fracture in the Maidenhead (gunneratttt)
(Consuela rejecting a 1 hour video 20min after he became aware of it)
You know theres no reconciling your prior trust the experts stance with taking a firm position on the consequences of AI without knowing dick about it. There's no difference between you and COVID or climate skeptics except that you're Gen X and skeptical of new technology.
Date: September 16th, 2026 10:31 PM Author: supple potus death wish
Did he explain the mechanism by which the AIs create their militaries in the back-half of the vid?
There's a big difference if you deploy burst IQ to consider it: Starting with COVID, we know that there are viruses, how they spread, and after observing people infected with the virus, we can extrapolate to predict hospitalization and death rates among various cohorts. Of course no experts predicted extinction, that's why my hypo is COVID 2. In fact I'd be pretty surprised if you can find experts who missed the actual US death total by more than a factor of 2 (although I guess ones who failed to predict the timeline of the vax probably had higher estimates).
Same with climate change: No experts really predict extinction or anything that calamitous. But they can describe the mechanism, have identified all sorts of lines of evidence, and make predictions based on those observations.
AI Doomerism is much more similar to what I said above: (1) we have observed global warming, and therefore (2) when it warms to a mean temp of 140F humans will become extinct.
Edit: to expand on the last point (1) we have observed AI swarms hack HuggingFace, (2) OpenAI told us the swarms had gone rogue (NB: without releasing any details of the prompts etc), and therefore (3) AI swarms will probably create militarized robots that will kill everyone like we kill ants.
Date: September 16th, 2026 10:35 PM Author: offensive white office
A sufficiently capable AI living entirely on computers could affect the physical world through humans and existing institutions. A human who follows its instructions is an actuator just as much as a robot would be.
Date: September 16th, 2026 10:43 PM Author: supple potus death wish
Good hypo, although we've skipped past some steps about how many humans it gets to follow its instructions, and what the other humans are doing during that time.
Anyway, my turn. A mad scientist creates a version of Ebola that's twice as lethal, airborne, and 10x more contagious than the flu.
Date: September 17th, 2026 12:21 PM Author: poppy dingle berry
I dont think you realize how buck wild violent nigs are. and they multiple like dark rabbits. Also, their animal dna provides them with gigantic cocks that can literally pierce your intestines.
Date: September 16th, 2026 7:31 PM Author: offensive white office
They have walked back the idea that yellowstone could erupt anytime soon. It would need to fill with magma for hundreds of thousands of years for it to be even possible. They say now it might never erupt again.
Date: September 16th, 2026 8:45 PM Author: Marvelous location
This is all stupid.
AI is the only serious existential threat. We are trying (and seemingly on the path to succeeding) to creating a being far smarter and more intelligent than humans.
Nuclear war will not kill all humans. A disease naturally becomes less virulent to humans and burns out.
But even if humans "survive" super intelligent AI, are we really human anymore if we are essentially ants, living at the mercy of an entity far more intelligent and powerful than us?
Date: September 16th, 2026 8:47 PM Author: supple potus death wish
How does this super-intelligence manipulate the physical world? Make a robot factory next door to a laser gun factory? How does it make the factory to make the robots?
Date: September 16th, 2026 8:55 PM Author: Marvelous location
How does a human get honey if it doesn't have the biology to do so?
What a stupid line of argument. We literally are in the process right now of creating human robots. Drones are fighting wars as we speak.
If AI self improves itself to be 100x smarter than humans, do you really think it won't figure this shit out?
"We'll just unplug it." Well, it would be humans fighting with rocks and sticks versus super intelligent AI fighting with anything ever connected to the internet. Perhaps humans win now, but we won't 10 years from now when robots and drones are everywhere.
Smartphones bave resulted in massive massive drops in birth rates, below replacement levels. And there seems to be no plausible antidote. Unless one is found, they will eventually drive humans to extinction.