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Alasdair MacIntyre: “the new dark ages which are already upon us”

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me. “...
Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch
  02/16/21
link plz
Electric poppy kitchen
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue
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"construction of local forms of community within which ...
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*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*
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this is a second Renaissance
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just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory towe...
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Harsh but fair
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After Virtue is 180
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he is 180
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That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs ...
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  02/16/21
link? what books of his have you read?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue https://you...
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The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans
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Hard to make a distinction by the end.
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only of you're a drunk Roman
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Lol @ premils
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i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude ...
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dominicans are unironically natsoc
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Date: February 16th, 2021 11:21 AM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me.

“A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead often not recognizing fully what they were doing—was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition is correct, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41954317)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Electric poppy kitchen

link plz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183785)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183802)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 11:14 PM
Author: Adventurous topaz point weed whacker

"construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained"

move to the sticks and make good with everyone you can.

sounds good to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43258556)



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Date: March 14th, 2024 2:35 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#47493724)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:14 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957356)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: shaky mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957366)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: crusty coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957369)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:18 PM
Author: provocative prole

*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957375)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:26 PM
Author: fishy bearded home

this is a second Renaissance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957423)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:28 PM
Author: cobalt mind-boggling multi-billionaire

just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory tower reading classical bullshit and seeing vandals and visigoths everywhere when he ventures outside the campus. charles taylor is tcr communitarian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957439)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:30 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch

Harsh but fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957810)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:18 AM
Author: beady-eyed startled haunted graveyard dysfunction



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Citrine supple queen of the night theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42336156)



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:52 PM
Author: beady-eyed startled haunted graveyard dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#46393680)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:40 PM
Author: transparent vivacious athletic conference

After Virtue is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957508)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: Vibrant hissy fit

he is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957816)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:34 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch

That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs really drove home the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957825)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: Vibrant hissy fit

link?

what books of his have you read?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957902)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

https://youtu.be/7_ssRpso9e8?t=2626

This little snippet really drives it home though and makes the leap from seemingly magical tech to us being in a full fledge culture extinction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41958239)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:44 PM
Author: amethyst diverse public bath

The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957873)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:46 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch

Hard to make a distinction by the end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957881)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:37 PM
Author: lascivious forum

only of you're a drunk Roman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41958115)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:38 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41963755)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:39 PM
Author: Curious cordovan school

Lol @ premils

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41963758)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41979325)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: Vibrant hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41979396)



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Date: March 2nd, 2021 12:19 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42034897)



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Date: March 18th, 2021 12:02 AM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42123274)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183777)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:27 PM
Author: Mahogany institution

quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient history...it's not the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183780)



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:48 PM
Author: Electric poppy kitchen

It is always dangerous to draw too precise parallels between one historical period and another; and among the most misleading of such parallels are those which have been drawn between our own age in Europe and North America and the epoch in which the Roman empire declined into the Dark Ages. Nonetheless certain parallels there are. A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead–often not recognizing fully what they were doing–was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us. And if the tradition of the virtues was able to survive the horrors of the last dark ages, we are not entirely without grounds for hope. This time, however, the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43308041)



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Date: April 14th, 2021 10:16 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42282143)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:15 AM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42335581)



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Date: April 30th, 2021 7:19 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42379335)



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Date: October 1st, 2021 12:10 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43206172)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:42 AM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235648)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:48 AM
Author: Orange stirring gunner toaster

even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empire now have to admit that there is, by any description, no shared purpose. all the "good" things that can happen these days are things that would benefit you or your family. Get comparatively rich, get a better job, etc. No one even considers benefits to the community or "America". And sure as shit no one will accept personal detriment for America's improvement.

This has to be a clear sign that it's over. Im reminded of those videos of Army doods all saying "lol fuck the Army, my recruiter lied, this sucks", rating it as they would a job or college. Imagine asking enlisted men to consider their lives as contributing to America's glory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235671)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:53 AM
Author: Titillating goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235690)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:19 AM
Author: Orange stirring gunner toaster

i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude got pulled out of line. "are you dominican?" they asked him

The dude got all worked up, "me?! Dominican as fuck! Pure blood. Dominican to my core!" etc

Tried to imagine someone being so insulted and prideful about being american, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235780)



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:12 PM
Author: Electric poppy kitchen

dominicans are unironically natsoc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#48015989)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:29 AM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSdnESSU-WRTBliI5nWkh_dlW_H3tOaxC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235846)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43258178)



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:45 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



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Date: March 3rd, 2022 7:03 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:32 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:38 PM
Author: Spectacular Lay Laser Beams



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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:47 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



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Date: April 25th, 2022 1:27 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



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Date: June 3rd, 2023 6:48 PM
Author: Concupiscible Dead Church Building Sandwich



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:03 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:30 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Flushed Stage

every age deals with this and it's the MONASTIC communities who carry the flame when the wheels come off.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#46393785)



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Date: November 7th, 2023 8:33 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: Carmine sanctuary trust fund



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



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Date: July 9th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Rough-skinned Boyish Brunch



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