#1 and #2 IMO are that fewer people can afford to give kids the life they want to give them, and more people see that the world is getting significantly worse and therefore don't want to bring kids into this SPS timeline.
Date: May 23rd, 2026 11:24 PM Author: Sepia Aromatic Gas Station
It's cost of living and women's lib. You're going to have fewer or no kids if most women wait until 30+ to start thinking about it.
The world is also becoming an overwhelming consumer driven hellhole with no purpose or meaning. Of course eliminating religion and community will drive people towards nihilism.
Date: May 23rd, 2026 11:05 PM Author: Bright Tantric Toaster
A machinist or a bus driver used to be able to buy a starter home on Staten Island or Long Island or even in Brooklyn on 1 salary and raise a family. Today that starter home needs the income of a two lawyer couple to be purchased and they are likely paying $5k a month to cover the mortgage. Everyone is poorer than they were 40 years ago and nobody gives a fuck that TVs and plastic trinkets are cheaper when housing, healthcare and education eat 80% of the money.
this is all such tiring bullshit, there are niggas having 12 babies living in furking tents, they dont think abt whether they can afford a 3bd in the burbs
its retarded pretending its abt housing when women are total bitches who hate men and hate kids and ppl arent even mating, so how the furk is housing an issue? ppl who actually get married end up having something like 2 kids on avg or some shit like that, the issue is ppl not getting married in first place and that is mostly cause of feminazism and bitches being insane cunts
Date: May 26th, 2026 10:50 AM Author: Maroon Heady Shrine
Cr, do people think the 50s lasted for 3000 years? People procreated when they were poor as shit, much poorer than today. If anything we're too rich to have children, there's too many fun things to do and we don't need children to support us after we start dying of black lung at 45
Date: May 26th, 2026 4:51 PM Author: Bright Tantric Toaster
People back then needed kids to work farms so they wouldn’t starve to death. 2 people can’t work even two acres by themselves. Different math before the Industrial Revolution.
Date: May 23rd, 2026 11:22 PM Author: zippy institution
I have four children and the people who turn their noses up at parents and their struggle rarely cross my path. I don’t even think about them. I’m too lost in the shit, head down, scrambling to cover the next thing to fall. I’m aging so quickly now too. It’s kooky.
Date: May 23rd, 2026 11:45 PM Author: zippy institution
I feel like I’m going to die. I was doing direct exam this week and my shirt was too tight and I was standing there and my back started spasming. I was doubled over in pain, my man.
It has nothing to do with cost - isn't there almost a negative correlation to income and kids?
We just have a very vapid society and have normalized that.
People used to learn and catch on that it was better to give presents than receive when they were like 6 years old. Now you poor Redditors who literally don't have kids so they can avoid to treat themselves to more experiences at Disney World. Like they literally don't have kids so they can hoard their money and cut other kids in line on the Winnie the Pooh ride.
Similarly, more UMC types don't have kids so they can "travel" - which really means go to nice hotels and restaurants. So they forgo kids so that they can be waited on by servants, and then take nice pictures of the food the servants prepared and brought them.
Date: May 23rd, 2026 11:54 PM Author: Avocado Church People Who Are Hurt
remember that time the state fully protected women against the risks of sex (alimony/child support) wile did nothing to protect men against cucking/infidelity?
zoomers figured it out and stopped breeding with these faggot vaginas
funny thing is its just math, like jews cannot manipulate it. u just go extinct. and it nicely takes like 100-150 years so its beyond just one life so ppl wont necessarily care cause it wont impact them. its actually the perfect storm, u really cld see world pop decline to like 2b from 8b
yes basically cause the age pyramid will be lolzy like 1b+ will be over 50
it will essentially become impossible for humanity to grow unless bitches go back to having 5+ babies each which will never happen until u gas all joos
Date: May 24th, 2026 5:21 PM Author: Vigorous indecent university headpube
it's simply birth control and women being educated, which I am not against btw.
dumbs have kids even when they are deeply in debt, they don't think about "the future". birth control and abortion help to mitigate this, though not nearly enough. no one actually wants poor retards to have more kids except for CEOs and payday loan lenders. there is no sympathetic argument for it.
Date: May 25th, 2026 2:19 PM Author: titillating rigpig
the people freaking out about birth rates are the boomers/GenXers who can see that they're a couple of years away from eating dog food while a Somali nurse tries to find a vein
I find the obsession with TFR to be sort of retarded. The only real reason we "need" to maintain or grow the population is to sustain pensions and ensure that the economy doesn't have to right-size. We do not need 8 billion people on the planet to sustain life and, if anything, having fewer people could lead to more material abundance. IMO geopolitical conflicts are primarily driven by differences in per capita energy use, an issue that would largely fade if the global population shrunk 50%.
The bigger thing people should be concerned with is TFR by sub-group. WHO is having kids matters way more than TOTAL population growth.
this is retarded for many reasons but most of all cause low TFR means u basically go extinct, its just numbers. Ask AI to calculate it but at even 1.5 you lose 90% of ur pop in like 150 years or something. So u wont just go down to a "stable" pop and have nirvana, it will keep going down unless TFR somehow reverses 50%+ which literally hasnt happened anywhere on Earth in the last 40 years since countries started dropping below 1.5
and second economic stuff depends on working age pop, like when idiots pretend they'll be more homes available lol noooo, lots of thhose homes will be in areas that become econically shit. its like italy and japan now with ghost cities with homes for $1k cause they are desperate for anyone. no one wants to actually go to these places cause there's no jobs, no economy, no nothing. places will just die, everyone will move to a few big cities for jerbs. u wont have abudance u will just have detroit all over
Saying that we will go extinct doesn't make sense. There is no reason to think that all of humanity will stop reproducing just as there was no real reason to assume that we'd have continuous population growth. The need for continuous growth is unnatural and driven by finance. We can make do with fewer people.
The bottleneck is the painful part. But I do think things will be better after that. Not "nirvana."
nigga, if ur pop does drop 50% and then ur TFR is still only 1.5 u still have the same prob it will continue dropping, maybe u technicalyl dont go extinct ur DNA just gets ass raped cause likely others migrate in and u mix with them similar to aryan "invasion" of india or jomons getting ass raped in japan or what the yamnaya did to europe
look at this nigga, TFR 1.2 u are 90% DONE here in just 135 years
ljl even if it "recovered" from say 1.4 to 2.1 in fking 80 years its basically too late, thats another prob, it literally would have to recover back to 2.1 in a short time frame to save a population, if it takes 80 or even 50 years its too late
that's it. nothing is going to stop the decline unless we have extreme abundance and longer lifespans or something. screens or car seat laws or whatever may move the needle a small amount on short timespans but ultimately don't really matter compared to the big two
The number 1 reason is birth control. People will naturally want to fuck, and even with porn and drugs and everything else, if fucking resulted in kids at natural rates then birth rates would be way higher.
Number 2 reason is what others have identified: hedonism/selfishness. To be honest, I didn’t really learn the truth (life is 0% about me—I am nothing) until I had kids. So while I think people can grow through having kids, with as much pleasurable shit as people have invented (drugs, great food, very entertaining screen shit, porn) many just never get there.