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| big newt police squad | 08/14/18 |
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Date: August 14th, 2018 4:28 PM Author: big newt police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#36616429) |
Date: August 14th, 2018 4:40 PM Author: territorial fighting pistol What’s the release date? 2030? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#36616490) |
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Date: October 17th, 2023 5:24 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness Lol@ suckers who paid $94 for this game ($134 for premium) upon release
i just bought it on sale for $63 - was free at the internet cafe
LMAO FUCK YOU BLIZZARD |
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Date: October 17th, 2023 5:25 PM Author: big newt police squad Diablo 2 Resurrected is literally 10x the game D4 is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#46947808) |
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Date: October 17th, 2023 5:28 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness jew ass blizzniggers literally charged $134 for the "ultimate edition"
steam charges $72 so you STILL got j00ed there bc battlenet charges $63 |
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Date: October 17th, 2023 5:30 PM Author: big newt police squad D2R will be on Xbox Gamepass I hope everyone plays that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#46947836) |
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Date: October 17th, 2023 5:34 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness majority of people still play sc1 > sc2 today too, but it doesnt mean you should
at a certain point the graphics tradeoff becomes too great. d4 gameplay is good enough. will actually look for a new graphics card now during cyber monday (running a RX 570 now) to play d4 max settings
gonna be 180 |
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Date: October 17th, 2023 5:43 PM Author: big newt police squad Diablo 2 Resurrected is the remake. The graphics are literally better than Diablo 4 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#46947895) |
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Date: October 17th, 2023 5:51 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness they did a sc1 "remake" too but the game doesnt feel the same as the original
i recently got back into cs too but i wouldnt play 1.6 even if Steam supported it because the graphics are too dated vis a vis cs2
out of curiosity i just watched some d2 remake footage. meh. already played d2 back in the day and dont feel like paying ~same price as d4
if it were free i might choose it over d4 |
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Date: October 17th, 2023 6:41 PM Author: big newt police squad I’ve seen it on sale for like 20 bucks
Either way by all accounts it is still a better fundamental game than D4 |
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Date: October 17th, 2023 5:46 PM Author: green costumed field sc2 is shit and brood war is all time great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#46947901) |
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Date: October 17th, 2023 5:54 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness people still play sc1 over sc2 but the graphics are hard to stomach. shit is old as fuck now
dont play sc anymore regardless. you can only play the remastered version which feels different from the original. AND you have to pay for the game. no thanks |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 12:38 PM Author: green costumed field Remastered gameplay is exactly the same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#46956052) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 12:53 AM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness nope. prefer the old graphics to the new ones. once you change the graphics, the entire game feels different (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#46959654) |
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Date: October 18th, 2023 11:57 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness barb level 40 already. i only started playing d4 last month and got my season 1 barb to 90 in about 3 weeks
gonna try to reach 100 on my barb this season |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 12:44 PM Author: Rusted menage More meaningful achievement - 100 club lays or lvl 100 d4 character? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#46956089) |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 11:31 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness sorc necro leveling = lame barb = 1337 |
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Date: October 22nd, 2023 11:10 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness level 75 barb now...paragon boost 180 as fuck
s1 was terrible in comparison but barb still extremely underpowered vis a vis sorc/necro |
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Date: October 23rd, 2023 11:41 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness Had a super chilled Chinese bro who helped me farm Duriel like 10 times last night
1800000 |
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Date: October 24th, 2023 11:07 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness level 90 barb as of last night
still cant solo most pre-Duriel bosses. fuckin barb needs rebalancing |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 11:37 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness level 95
re-speced to a lillith build and realized barb has maybe 2 decent builds:
upheaval HOTA/death blow
basically my original build: frenzy+whirlwind+rend was completely GARBAGE. upheaval one shots mobs, 5 shots bosses
entire skills table needs to be reworked so frenzy and more close quarters skills has greater cc
barbarian is actually fun as fuck to play if you take the time to re-spec. next season should have build slots so you dont have to reset your entire paragon and skills
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Date: October 26th, 2023 8:54 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness diablo 4 is FREE RIGHT NOW ON ALL PLATFORMS
LOLLERCAUST |
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Date: January 14th, 2024 8:08 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness season 3 kicks off jan 23...HERE WE GO!!!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47287669) |
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Date: January 21st, 2024 7:23 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47314962) |
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Date: January 25th, 2024 9:16 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness got my barb up to level 30 in one ~2 hr sitting last night
initial thoughts on S3:
pet is mostly useless, very gimmicky main quest is meh the weird environmental shit is completely pointless mobbing is better now in all environments no leaderboards until mid-season = gay
overall, 2/5 |
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Date: January 28th, 2024 7:26 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness level 55 as of last night
power bump really kicking in now. will try t4 capstone after filling 2nd paragon board LFG
also LOL@ everyone going barb this season thanks to the broken HOTA overpower mechanics |
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Date: January 29th, 2024 7:13 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness finished wt4 capstone@ level 60 w/ a life elixir
barb level 65 now and feeling pretty strong. leveling feels good in s3 |
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Date: January 29th, 2024 7:15 PM Author: chocolate vibrant private investor coldplay fan Why would you roll an OP class when it will get nerfed in the next patch? I like rolling underpowered classes so you are already maxxed out when the buff comes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47344266) |
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Date: January 29th, 2024 7:15 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness ive only played barb. not interested in other classes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47344269) |
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Date: February 5th, 2024 3:41 PM Author: chocolate vibrant private investor coldplay fan Sorc is fun. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47369085) |
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Date: February 1st, 2024 7:59 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness barb@ lvl 76 now
still havent fully upgraded gear - looking for ancestral drops w/maxrolls only before upgrading
seneschal events still giving decent exp but im starting vaults now, seem necessary for that 75-100 grind. last season the final stretch was a breeze, s3 is def. more "grindy" once you hit 75+
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Date: February 4th, 2024 7:18 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness level 90 and getting 1mill-5mill procs
trying to get that number up to 10 million so i can start one-shotting bosses but minmaxing is gonna be brutal. have already seen players with Grandfathers wtf |
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Date: February 5th, 2024 3:50 PM Author: Concupiscible slippery home cuckold LOLLERcausting hard it @ tiny peanut balls nyuug playing some stupid and pointless video game in his tiny 200sqft Gangnam shitbox apartment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47369105) |
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Date: February 5th, 2024 7:46 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness oh u mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47369983) |
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Date: February 12th, 2024 7:49 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness lvl 100, experimented with some other builds over lunar new year
frenzy only + battle trance = facetank lillith (but i cant beat her due to one-shot mechanics), will try facetanking malphas 2.0 sometime this week (was able to facetank son of malphas in vault)
ww barb + gohrs = OK for NM dungeons up to around lvl 120-ish enemies, still very underpowered vis a vis upheaval barb
final respec will be some sort of bleedzerker build, rend + rupture and then settle on a final build
not interested in HOTA because metas are lame. |
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Date: February 12th, 2024 7:52 PM Author: Bistre curious dopamine BIGDICK KOREAN STUD grinding his life away playing a shitty stale blizzard game in his tiny box apartment, why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47395805) |
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Date: February 12th, 2024 7:54 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness i stopped trying to get laid years ago dude lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47395807) |
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Date: February 12th, 2024 11:52 PM Author: Bistre curious dopamine Why (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47396680) |
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Date: February 13th, 2024 12:21 AM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness had a life goal to fuck 1000 women. accomplished this sometime pre-covid. kill count is somewhere near 1500 now.
last year was kind of an anomaly because i ran into a solid circle of korean-american hunters who liked to club. had some epic hunts last year. we're disbanded now and i mostly game these days |
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Date: February 13th, 2024 5:51 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness facetanked malphas w/ frenzy build, lillith one shot mechanics still pwning me tho. lvl 100 NMDs still destroying me near-instantly, very lame
trying out final bleedzerker build sometime this week and then im pretty much done with this season. uber unique grind is gambly as fuck |
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Date: March 10th, 2024 8:40 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness leaderboards are LOLLERCAUST
lvl 124 monsters with shit item drops. massive fail |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 8:35 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness season 4 is pretty good, influencoooors saying its a YUGE improvement, but its more like Season 3 = C, Season 4 = B-
masterworking is gold-intensive as fuuuuuuuark |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 8:36 PM Author: adventurous parlor associate Its the same old shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47665443) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 8:46 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness masterworking shouldve been released from D1, and itemization is improving steadily. S4 is worth it just to test the new stuff out imo. the new aspect system is pretty good too, cant roll upheaval though, fuck
i dont farm uber uniques - not worth the time - and stop playing after i hit level 100 anyways before moving back to CS2, also im a one-class player (barb only)
i think if they polish up the endgame, we could reach A+ levels by season 5 |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 8:39 PM Author: Concupiscible slippery home cuckold LOLLERcausting hard itt @ tiny peanut balls nyuug playing some shitty irrelevant game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47665450) |
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Date: May 19th, 2024 11:13 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness level 82, upheaval is imba as fuck with tempering
1800000 |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 8:52 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness some useful tips for this season:
juggy aspect no longer necessary, as armor is capped out at 9-10k, better to cap with temper
tempering is 180 as fuck. but bricking is REAL.
basically itemization comes down to: getting as many greater affixes items as you can, temper without bricking, THEN masterwork
basically makes you minmax the fuck out of everything, which is i guess a sort of "endgame", which is a much better alternative to the insufferable uber duriel grind
havent done the pit yet - waiting to max out items first before attempting
all in all, my barb is at like 87 and these last levels are getting super grindy. gonna max out and then tinker with masterworking a bit and call it quits soon thereafter. this actually might be the beginning of a D4 renaissance |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 8:55 PM Author: Concupiscible slippery home cuckold LOLLERcausting hard itt @ tiny peanut balls nyuug thinking anyone gives a shit about this shitty game that no one plays (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47678196) |
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Date: May 20th, 2024 8:56 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness lol@ this retarded cumskin fuck absolutely TRIGGERED this morning by my mere PRESENCE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#47678201) |
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Date: June 9th, 2024 6:34 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness FIRST D4 EXPANSION COSTS $40, same price as what i paid for the game itself
https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-4/news/diablo-4-vessel-of-hatred-expansion-pre-purchase-available-now-342780 |
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Date: August 12th, 2024 6:19 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness thoughts on season 5, FRIENDS?
went whirl barb this time and level 67 now after 2 days of playing. gotta say diablo is pretty fun now. lol@ blizzard whipping their devs into shape bc they dont want a billion angry gamers shitting on their product before the expansion |
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Date: October 9th, 2024 11:47 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness season 6 leveling is fucking weird as fuck. old monster difficulty system completely reworked apparently
no more boring capstone dungeon grind, but apparently moving to penitent too early fucks you. 30-50 has been a slog. leveling guides saying you should go back DOWN to normal after hitting 45, gear up, then move to penitent lmao. i moved to penitent at like level 30, FUCK
did NOT buy the expansion - FUCK YOU BLIZZARD - and am still enjoying my limited content. will purchase expansion when its on sale later
people saying barb is nerfed, he's definitely feeling a little weaker than usual, but not a HUGE difference. aspects are harder to come by early, which is the main contributor imo |
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Date: October 10th, 2024 12:08 AM Author: misunderstood brass site cuck this game is absolute dogshit--superior gook culture on display as nyuug obsessively plays more Californian made slop--sucking down every last drop at release like Darnell busting in his kimchi shute (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#48182928) |
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Date: October 10th, 2024 12:14 AM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness lol@ thinking PoE or LE even hold a candle to d4 - those clones have maybe 1% of the production value
d3 was garbage, d4 was incomplete upon launch - not when i purchased - but it's decent now. im a barb main exclusively so i dont really care about missing out on extra content
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Date: October 10th, 2024 12:31 AM Author: misunderstood brass site cuck lol @ you framing it this way--can't imagine yourself doing anything besides playing other ARPGs or Overwatch? what about putting down the controller and making a family with any of the millions of women you supposedly fucked my man? spreading those GENGHIS genes instead of playing trash like this? superior gook culture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#48182974) |
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Date: October 10th, 2024 12:37 AM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness im a virgin bro. after all, xoxo cumskins say so! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#48182989) |
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Date: October 14th, 2024 12:29 AM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness OK so the new leveling system is a bit odd - youre capped at 60, then paragon board levels up to 120 or something i think - currently at 109
barb, as always, gets massive power level boost from the board, then after that its minmaxing until you cop DAT mythic/uber + 4 GA and the same old grind it seems
current build - whirldust doesnt depend on any mythics or ubers so i think im finished with this season once my paragon is maxed out
all in all, a pretty decent season with some QoL improvements from the previous season but definitely NOT WORTH shelling out for the expansion until a holiday season discount imo |
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Date: January 22nd, 2025 7:47 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness season 7 turning out pretty fun
supposedly whirl barb is a viable build now but not interested in making a whirl loadout bc i went with whirlbarb last season and it was OK
going back to an upheaval build and seeing how far i can take it
STILL havent bought the expansion - fuck you activision! |
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Date: March 5th, 2025 6:44 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness upheaval build took me to pit 60 but i got bored and switched to a HOTA build for the first time
purposely avoided HOTA bc its fucking overplayed as fuck and therefore lame.
lmao@ clearing pit 70 in like 5 minutes and nearly one-shotting the boss. fuckin broken as fuck build.
will tinker around with it for the rest of the season and try minmaxing everything just to see how far i can get in the pit. goblin hunt is also good |
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Date: May 1st, 2025 9:13 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness going for mighty throw/upheaval for s8
boss powers are meh. 2 not available since i dont have VoH
s7 i got my paragon to lvl 250ish, will prob stop around there again
leveling very slow this season
the new overworld event is not bad
will give a final season rating later when i reach torment 4 |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:05 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness season 9 turning out to be about B+
barb GIGANERFED seasonal powers are mostly copypasta leveling feels good new gems are meh escalation/astaroth...not bad
barb only has new unique boots that boost...basic skills LMAO so im gonna try a flay build with it if i can cop one
if not, max out what i can with my whirlwind build and then im done |
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Date: September 28th, 2025 5:25 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness season 10 is a solid A
BARB IS BACK - chaos powers finally enable most builds and i am running a wrathwind build which crushes
fully max out my gear and i can handle pit 100 w/ease prob
hope they keep chaos armor for subsequent seasons |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 9:10 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness s11 going HOTA barb but still underpowered after reaching Torment 4
gonna max out some glyphs and see how squishy i am
not buying lord of hatred (who gives a fuck about paladin) until it goes on sale during xmas or whenever
barb overall needs a serious rework. same old shitty builds over and over again
guessing LoH will revamp skilltrees and whatnot |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 9:40 PM Author: Concupiscible slippery home cuckold entire thread is just nyuug talking to himself about a game no one plays ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#49509849) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 9:41 PM Author: glittery insanely creepy alpha twinkling uncleanness lord of hatred PWNING SOULS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#49509853) |
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Date: December 14th, 2025 9:43 PM Author: Concupiscible slippery home cuckold LOLLERcausting hard itt @ tiny peanut balls grandpa gook playing some shit game no one plays ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4051963&forum_id=2#49509860) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 6:53 PM Author: nyuug WARLOCK CLASS CONFIRMED
but tbh i dont really care bc i only play barb
might finally upgrade later this year when there is a sale |