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Soccer-Lovers: EXPLAIN KICKING THE BALL 40FT OVER THE GOAL

Why does this happen in every soccer game Ive ever seen, pla...
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Soccermos, explain.
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Why don't NFL QBs just hit their receivers right in the numb...
electric corner deer antler
  06/16/14
I was waiting for this. Imagine an NFL where every game ...
Seedy exciting tanning salon chad
  06/16/14
Ok. How about why do MLB batters pop out?
Spectacular site
  06/16/14
(Actual retard)
razzmatazz jewess
  07/13/14
baseball is 15X smaller, comes at you @ 100 mph. try again s...
vermilion cheese-eating ape
  07/13/14
bc baseball is the kind of sport where if you pop out or mis...
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And every time the ball sails 50 feet over the goal there ha...
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They have giant doods chasing them and the receivers are mov...
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Rofl. It is not easy to put a shot on goal with dudes defend...
electric corner deer antler
  06/16/14
They still fuck up free kicks most of the time.
kink-friendly telephone
  06/16/14
free kick has to go up to make it over the wall first. its j...
Misunderstood messiness
  06/16/14
any player famous for just blasting through the wall
Seedy exciting tanning salon chad
  06/16/14
lmao check out juninho pernambucano videos to see a good fr...
Misunderstood messiness
  06/16/14
pretty curvy stuff. Predict Lebron's success at being a ...
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  06/17/14
Dude, they're throwing to a moving target while huge bulky d...
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  06/16/14
they're kinda tall and lanky, but yeah.
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It can be very difficult to keep the ball from sailing when ...
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This is a very good explanation. But it leads to the questio...
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lol. just do premise a sport around not using the most de...
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I mostly watch these days waiting for that eureka evolutiona...
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180. that's how rugby was invented. it took american brains ...
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This was the best anti-soccer argument I've seen. I remembe...
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Too strong for their own good
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*Rolls a soccer ball slowly in your direction*
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or how about breaking away and being in perfect position to ...
gold location
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this is actually a thing, players won't use their teammates ...
Misunderstood messiness
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It does seem like a lot of players would rather try to break...
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  06/17/14
brother 99.99% of those times the perfectly positioned tea...
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It's a form of hustling. Do this once and the other team won...
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ball bobbles a bit even on good surfaces, get under it by a ...
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that's why these guys are the best at the game in their coun...
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they're trying to get some serious spin on it to come back d...
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Makes me love hockey even more.
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its a NUANCED and NOT COMPLETELY RANDOM sport
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not played by players w/ multi million dollar contracts
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All sports are fixed.
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maybe, but soccer isn't a sport.
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Imagine NBA players routinely chucking shots into the stands...
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Like Baseketball psych out misses.
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*pitcher rockets 8 fastballs into the stands over the course...
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*Is Rick Ankiel*
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they would immediately be cut from the team. yet, in soccer ...
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it's like how in baseball you fail 70% of the time and you'r...
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in soccer a 5% success rate makes you a god
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we can still make it.
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Sorry, is the soccer ball you're kicking coming at you at 95...
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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:39 PM
Author: Seedy exciting tanning salon chad

Why does this happen in every soccer game Ive ever seen, played by the world's best athletes.

Hey, we only get 10 shots on goal the entire 90 minutes, let me just sail this one fifteen yards over the cross bar whoops

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763661)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:44 PM
Author: Seedy exciting tanning salon chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763711)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:45 PM
Author: concupiscible parlour place of business

Soccermos, explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763719)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:46 PM
Author: electric corner deer antler

Why don't NFL QBs just hit their receivers right in the numbers every time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763728)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:48 PM
Author: Seedy exciting tanning salon chad

I was waiting for this.

Imagine an NFL where every game you watched included multiple throws 15 yards over the receivers hands and out of the back of the endzone. Whoops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763737)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:50 PM
Author: Spectacular site

Ok. How about why do MLB batters pop out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763757)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 5:38 PM
Author: razzmatazz jewess

(Actual retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25923934)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 7:30 PM
Author: vermilion cheese-eating ape

baseball is 15X smaller, comes at you @ 100 mph. try again shitlib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25924487)



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Date: January 17th, 2024 8:41 AM
Author: Drab stimulating whorehouse

bc baseball is the kind of sport where if you pop out or miss completely only 2/3 of the time you'll be one of the best players in the game and likely make the HOF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#47297704)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:51 PM
Author: concupiscible parlour place of business

And every time the ball sails 50 feet over the goal there has to be this Academy Award winning performance where the shooter clutches his head with both hands in disbelief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763762)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:10 PM
Author: Soggy factory reset button laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925177)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:20 PM
Author: boyish mediation



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:49 PM
Author: kink-friendly telephone

They have giant doods chasing them and the receivers are moving. Soccer players miss a giant, stationary goal after taking two minutes setting up the shot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763747)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:50 PM
Author: boyish mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763756)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:51 PM
Author: concupiscible parlour place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763768)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:56 PM
Author: electric corner deer antler

Rofl. It is not easy to put a shot on goal with dudes defending against you in world class soccer. There is not offensive line to give you room and time to set up the kick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763790)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:04 PM
Author: kink-friendly telephone

They still fuck up free kicks most of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763842)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:09 PM
Author: Misunderstood messiness

free kick has to go up to make it over the wall first. its just hard to put the right spin on it to make it come back down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763883)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:11 PM
Author: Seedy exciting tanning salon chad

any player famous for just blasting through the wall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763898)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:14 PM
Author: Misunderstood messiness

lmao

check out juninho pernambucano videos to see a good free kick taker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763914)



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Date: June 17th, 2014 10:31 AM
Author: Seedy exciting tanning salon chad

pretty curvy stuff.

Predict Lebron's success at being a goalie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25765560)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:49 PM
Author: At-the-ready bearded indirect expression scourge upon the earth

Dude, they're throwing to a moving target while huge bulky dudes are trying to take their head off. They aren't kicking into a giant stationary rectangle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763751)



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Date: January 17th, 2024 8:56 AM
Author: splenetic underhanded piazza

they're kinda tall and lanky, but yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#47297734)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:49 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle international law enforcement agency state

It can be very difficult to keep the ball from sailing when it's hit hard. Hitting the ball at the wrong spot or off the wrong part of your cleat will send it sailing. When you're hitting the ball as hard the pros, there is very little room for error.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763748)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:51 PM
Author: Seedy exciting tanning salon chad

This is a very good explanation. But it leads to the question why havent soccer players evolved to the point where they learn to pick the ball up with their hands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763765)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:58 PM
Author: sable market

lol.

just do premise a sport around not using the most dexterous and evolutionarily unique parts of the human body.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763802)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:01 PM
Author: Seedy exciting tanning salon chad

I mostly watch these days waiting for that eureka evolutionary moment, like a chimp figuring out how to use a stick to get ants out of a tree hollow, when the first one of these eurofuckers tentatively picks the ball up with his hands and experimentally tosses it to an astonished teammate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763827)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:04 PM
Author: sable market

180. that's how rugby was invented. it took american brains to realize you can throw the ball *forward*, thus creating football

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763837)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 7:31 PM
Author: adventurous half-breed useless brakes

This was the best anti-soccer argument I've seen. I remember Max Kellerman making it around the time of a previous world cup. He said you know what would be awesome, if they took soccer, shrank the goal down, move it closer together, get rid of a bunch of the players on the field and put the goal high in the air where you could watch incredible athletes make the ball go in using the evolutionary advantage of the opposable thumb. AKA- I'll watch basketball.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25924498)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 5:40 PM
Author: Sepia submissive heaven



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:53 PM
Author: Excitant Ultramarine Menage Bbw

Too strong for their own good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763775)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:59 PM
Author: Canary buck-toothed crackhouse mexican

*Rolls a soccer ball slowly in your direction*



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763813)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:59 PM
Author: gold location

or how about breaking away and being in perfect position to make an unimpeded shot on goal or pass to your perfectly positioned teammate, but waiting the extra second until defenders converge on you. They do this a lot too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763815)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:06 PM
Author: Misunderstood messiness

this is actually a thing, players won't use their teammates for tap ins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763864)



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Date: June 17th, 2014 10:59 AM
Author: Talented confused macaca center

It does seem like a lot of players would rather try to break down two defenders for the spectacular goal which validates their ability rather than try for a more open shot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25765660)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 7:35 PM
Author: Galvanic hall water buffalo

brother 99.99% of those times the perfectly positioned teammate is actually off sides

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25924534)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:59 PM
Author: pungent glittery pocket flask

It's a form of hustling. Do this once and the other team won't know what's coming next time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763817)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:05 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925127)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:06 PM
Author: Misunderstood messiness

ball bobbles a bit even on good surfaces, get under it by a bit too much and you'll sky it. also, ball is often top spinning when a player takes it first-time, causing it to rise. also, body positioning is often less than ideal when coming on to a free ball

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763855)



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Date: June 17th, 2014 7:06 PM
Author: Wonderful shaky library goal in life

that's why these guys are the best at the game in their countries. They do nothing but kick soccer balls and run all day, for years and years. They should have this shit figured out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25768124)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:08 PM
Author: primrose public bath incel

they're trying to get some serious spin on it to come back down but their kick was off, so it never curves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763877)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:14 PM
Author: nubile fantasy-prone persian orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25763916)



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Date: June 17th, 2014 10:35 AM
Author: metal pit private investor

Makes me love hockey even more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25765573)



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Date: June 17th, 2014 6:52 PM
Author: Misunderstood messiness



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Date: July 13th, 2014 5:38 PM
Author: Laughsome Milk Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25923925)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 5:38 PM
Author: mustard plaza

its a NUANCED and NOT COMPLETELY RANDOM sport

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25923931)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 5:39 PM
Author: flushed vivacious shrine

not played by players w/ multi million dollar contracts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25923944)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 5:39 PM
Author: Sepia submissive heaven



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Date: July 13th, 2014 5:43 PM
Author: apoplectic painfully honest native

All sports are fixed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25923967)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 5:46 PM
Author: flushed vivacious shrine

maybe, but soccer isn't a sport.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25923989)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 7:18 PM
Author: Laughsome Milk Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25924421)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 7:23 PM
Author: boyish mediation

Imagine NBA players routinely chucking shots into the stands from 15 feet out



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25924448)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 7:33 PM
Author: adventurous half-breed useless brakes

Like Baseketball psych out misses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25924515)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 7:36 PM
Author: mustard plaza



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:03 PM
Author: Laughsome Milk Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925112)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:05 PM
Author: Sepia submissive heaven

*pitcher rockets 8 fastballs into the stands over the course of a game*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925123)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:18 PM
Author: boyish mediation

*Is Rick Ankiel*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925238)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:23 PM
Author: Sepia submissive heaven



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:05 PM
Author: pungent glittery pocket flask

they would immediately be cut from the team. yet, in soccer they are rewarded with trophies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925126)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:06 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal double fault

it's like how in baseball you fail 70% of the time and you're a hall of famer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925136)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:07 PM
Author: Laughsome Milk Circlehead

in soccer a 5% success rate makes you a god

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925146)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:08 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal double fault

we can still make it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925163)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:19 PM
Author: boyish mediation

Sorry, is the soccer ball you're kicking coming at you at 95 miles per hour while moving around?

Oh, no it isn't?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925249)



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Date: July 13th, 2014 9:29 PM
Author: pungent glittery pocket flask

how about i grab you by the ears and move your head around, tough guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#25925346)



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Date: January 18th, 2015 6:25 PM
Author: Laughsome Milk Circlehead



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Author: Talented confused macaca center

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Date: June 27th, 2026 7:48 PM
Author: "'''''"'''"""''''"

I’m convinced players do this to make soccer seem harder than it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#49966251)



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Date: June 27th, 2026 7:54 PM
Author: SickoMode

Retarded Americans like games where scoring is very easy. They would love soccer if it was some scheme where it was just a succession of penalty kicks and the score was in the 50s. And of course they love games where they can watch hundreds of ads in 3 hours as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2595833&forum_id=2#49966264)