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went to the hospital via ambulance last night

10/10 back pain that was radiating toward the front of my ch...
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/06/25
Did they check your blood pressure?
Navy gas station
  06/06/25
yeah, it was a bit elevated. but all of my tests came back n...
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/06/25
No they don't check blood pressure in that kind of situation
Aphrodisiac school cafeteria skinny woman
  06/06/25
lol, can’t tell if flame
Ruddy box office cuckold
  06/06/25
They check blood pressure for literally everything
bateful sanctuary
  06/06/25
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Electric idiot
  06/06/25
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big slap-happy jew stead
  06/06/25
Also, this is 40.
Navy gas station
  06/06/25
I didn't mind the fentanyl I got on the ambulance. I went fr...
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/06/25
if TSINAH/benzo arc goes to TSINAH also becoming a birdshit ...
dashing jade property headpube
  06/06/25
LJL that will never happen. I hate opiates/opioids and have ...
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/06/25
Oxy after my hemorrhoidectomy felt fantastic. I can’t ...
Azure splenetic station
  06/06/25
I had oxy after my knee surgery. Absolutely hated it and I c...
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/07/25
You shit all over the Natural History Museum?
Hyperactive pistol
  06/07/25
The handicapped stall by the entrance after the ticket booth
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/07/25
twist. you cant make this stuff up
fluffy goyim
  06/06/25
u should really get ur weight in check my dude, not even try...
dashing jade property headpube
  06/06/25
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big slap-happy jew stead
  06/06/25
maintaining average weight is the secret to life
fluffy goyim
  06/06/25
Why the ambulance? Didn't we resolve in that thread a while ...
talking lascivious nursing home
  06/06/25
I couldn't move from the back pain
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/06/25
Damn
talking lascivious nursing home
  06/06/25
That's like a $10,000 bill.
big slap-happy jew stead
  06/06/25
not including tip
fluffy goyim
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Hyperactive pistol
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laughsome rigor
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bateful sanctuary
  06/06/25
I’m sure he’ll pay it promptly
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Navy gas station
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Hyperactive pistol
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appetizing lavender kitchen
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judgmental sick lettuce
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LOL
beady-eyed apoplectic dysfunction lay
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Olive excitant institution
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Hyperactive pistol
  06/27/25
he can pay in installments using klarna
Adulterous cheese-eating national ceo
  06/06/25
He can profit by running it through the insurance at each of...
Low-t gunner office
  06/06/25
were you admitted or ><>dingfagged<><> ...
avocado school
  06/06/25
dingfagged with prescription advil
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/06/25
terrible. love you man want the best. pay your useless ambul...
avocado school
  06/06/25
LJL I have insurance
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/06/25
are u gonna sue them saying it was a medical emergency when ...
Hyperactive pistol
  06/06/25
You need to hit tsinah up with a pls respond. Notice I just ...
avocado school
  06/06/25
What caused it? Every time I've had terrible back pain it wa...
big slap-happy jew stead
  06/06/25
I must've pulled something when I was moving dirt over the w...
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/06/25
Dirte tp is moving?
fluffy goyim
  06/06/25
Is “moving dirt” your euphemism for taking a mas...
Salmon Lodge Generalized Bond
  06/06/25
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costumed painfully honest principal's office
  06/06/25
same, and pain shows up the next day and just stays in the b...
fluffy goyim
  06/06/25
u cant, ur back
Disturbing opaque indian lodge clown
  06/06/25
glad everything turned out alright.
primrose marketing idea area
  06/06/25
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Electric idiot
  06/06/25
um, why did you think it was pulmonary embolism?
laughsome rigor
  06/06/25
the location and sharpness of pain
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/06/25
ljl were you short of breath? heart attack far likelier give...
laughsome rigor
  06/06/25
Drawing a normal breath is definitely a "I can't, my ba...
adventurous self-absorbed windowlicker point
  06/06/25
...
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/06/25
Expected disco to be the OP
red curious tanning salon stain
  06/06/25
both are fat birdshits that have been wined and dined by CSL...
iridescent arousing corn cake stage
  06/06/25
Did you ever watch any of his court videos? TSINAH is at lea...
vibrant toaster depressive
  06/06/25
Stunned this wasn’t a disco fries thread
Salmon Lodge Generalized Bond
  06/06/25
Expected it to be a kidney stone
Burgundy state karate
  06/06/25
sounds scary as shit, thoughts of death race through ur mind...
concupiscible fortuitous meteor temple
  06/06/25
The HOG was on the toilet
garnet talented messiness ticket booth
  06/06/25
Did they check your prostate? the 'ol 'trauma handshake'?
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  06/06/25
Thank god they didn't. One of my chiropractor buds told me a...
Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend
  06/07/25


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Date: June 6th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

10/10 back pain that was radiating toward the front of my chest. they thought it was a pulmonary embolism at first. turns out it was just back pain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991819)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: Navy gas station

Did they check your blood pressure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991822)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

yeah, it was a bit elevated. but all of my tests came back negative, including the CT and chest x-ray

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991831)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:52 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac school cafeteria skinny woman

No they don't check blood pressure in that kind of situation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991994)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Ruddy box office cuckold

lol, can’t tell if flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992068)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: bateful sanctuary

They check blood pressure for literally everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992339)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: Electric idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48993016)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 5:58 PM
Author: big slap-happy jew stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48993051)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Navy gas station

Also, this is 40.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991823)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

I didn't mind the fentanyl I got on the ambulance. I went from 10/10 pain to 0/10 pain almost instantly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991833)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: dashing jade property headpube

if TSINAH/benzo arc goes to TSINAH also becoming a birdshit junkie i will laugh so hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991838)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

LJL that will never happen. I hate opiates/opioids and have only had them twice in my life: once when I had knee surgery and the other time last night. Yeah, it took the pain away, but it also wasn't a feeling I'd like to repeat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991848)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: Azure splenetic station

Oxy after my hemorrhoidectomy felt fantastic. I can’t imagine not liking that feeling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992346)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

I had oxy after my knee surgery. Absolutely hated it and I couldn't shit for a week until one day for no reason at all It Happened on the 26th day of the month of July in the 2016th year of our Lord at the American Museum of Natural History in NYC. That moment was unforgettable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48994548)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 11:37 AM
Author: Hyperactive pistol

You shit all over the Natural History Museum?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48994549)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

The handicapped stall by the entrance after the ticket booth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48994583)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: fluffy goyim

twist. you cant make this stuff up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991851)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: dashing jade property headpube

u should really get ur weight in check my dude, not even trying to insult you like i usually am

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991834)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: big slap-happy jew stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991843)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: fluffy goyim

maintaining average weight is the secret to life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991854)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: talking lascivious nursing home

Why the ambulance? Didn't we resolve in that thread a while back that you just need aspirin, and start the drive to the hospital asap?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991837)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

I couldn't move from the back pain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991845)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: talking lascivious nursing home

Damn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991853)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: big slap-happy jew stead

That's like a $10,000 bill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991846)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: fluffy goyim

not including tip

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991855)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: vermilion nighttime yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991861)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Hyperactive pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991868)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: laughsome rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991960)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: bateful sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992342)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: garnet talented messiness ticket booth

I’m sure he’ll pay it promptly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991900)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: Navy gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991909)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: Hyperactive pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991914)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: dashing jade property headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991939)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: laughsome rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991962)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: ruby very tactful base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991985)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:51 AM
Author: iridescent arousing corn cake stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991991)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:53 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac school cafeteria skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991995)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Ruddy box office cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992070)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: red curious tanning salon stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992078)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: umber brethren resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992084)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: Salmon Lodge Generalized Bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992109)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: vibrant toaster depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992136)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 12:44 PM
Author: appetizing lavender kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992266)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Low-t gunner office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992399)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:41 PM
Author: judgmental sick lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48993876)



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Date: June 7th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: beady-eyed apoplectic dysfunction lay

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48994925)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:37 PM
Author: Olive excitant institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#49055364)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Hyperactive pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#49055366)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Adulterous cheese-eating national ceo

he can pay in installments using klarna

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991963)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Low-t gunner office

He can profit by running it through the insurance at each of his three jobs!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992400)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: avocado school

were you admitted or ><>dingfagged<><> and they gave you aspirin or some shit. please respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991847)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

dingfagged with prescription advil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991852)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: avocado school

terrible. love you man want the best. pay your useless ambulance bill of $10,000 and don't put it on us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991913)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

LJL I have insurance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991917)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: Hyperactive pistol

are u gonna sue them saying it was a medical emergency when they inevitably refuse to pay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991989)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: avocado school

You need to hit tsinah up with a pls respond. Notice I just put it in my initial post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992100)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: big slap-happy jew stead

What caused it? Every time I've had terrible back pain it was because I pulled something or was doing a bunch of unusual movements the previous day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991850)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

I must've pulled something when I was moving dirt over the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991856)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: fluffy goyim

Dirte tp is moving?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991863)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:36 AM
Author: Salmon Lodge Generalized Bond

Is “moving dirt” your euphemism for taking a massive toilet-destroying shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992116)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: costumed painfully honest principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992340)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: fluffy goyim

same, and pain shows up the next day and just stays in the back area. radiating pain sounds like you pulled a nerve or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991858)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: Disturbing opaque indian lodge clown

u cant, ur back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991903)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: primrose marketing idea area

glad everything turned out alright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991957)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: Electric idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48993019)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: laughsome rigor

um, why did you think it was pulmonary embolism?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991966)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

the location and sharpness of pain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991976)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: laughsome rigor

ljl were you short of breath? heart attack far likelier given the scenario.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48991997)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 12:20 PM
Author: adventurous self-absorbed windowlicker point

Drawing a normal breath is definitely a "I can't, my back" situation for bad backmos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992203)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 12:23 PM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992207)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:23 AM
Author: red curious tanning salon stain

Expected disco to be the OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992077)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: iridescent arousing corn cake stage

both are fat birdshits that have been wined and dined by CSLG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992082)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: vibrant toaster depressive

Did you ever watch any of his court videos? TSINAH is at least as fat as DF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992139)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: Salmon Lodge Generalized Bond

Stunned this wasn’t a disco fries thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992105)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 3:50 PM
Author: Burgundy state karate

Expected it to be a kidney stone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992795)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: concupiscible fortuitous meteor temple

sounds scary as shit, thoughts of death race through ur mind? did u have anyone to help u get medical assistance/advice before the ambulance arrived?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48992906)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: garnet talented messiness ticket booth

The HOG was on the toilet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48993017)



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Date: June 6th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: trip meetinghouse selfie

Did they check your prostate? the 'ol 'trauma handshake'?

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Date: June 7th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Marvelous maize sound barrier organic girlfriend

Thank god they didn't. One of my chiropractor buds told me about the ol' trauma handshake where they shove their hand into your ass, grab your prostate, and simultaneously squeeze your dick. It's apparently a test to see if you're alive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5734175&forum_id=2#48994921)