Date: May 13th, 2024 3:45 PM
Author: curious haunting codepig
It's just like I poasted before- the extent to which Trump cares about this country over that country or this person over that person is absolutely dwarfed by the extent to which he cares about himself.
And he's gone on the record as saying he's gonna make the deal that ends the war, and his ego wants that more than he would like to see Russia win. So Britain appealed to his ego and self-interest and won him over:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/david-lammy-shows-yen-trump-whisperer-us-visit-xmpxhvg58
British officials also credit Cameron’s visit to Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s Florida home, for helping him to look differently at the issue. Cameron’s initial approach, hectoring Republican congressmen that they had a duty to help defend Europe, was received badly. But Whitehall officials say that when the foreign secretary spoke to Trump he changed tack, making an argument about what would be best for him if he became president again.
“What would be best for Trump, essentially, would be for the Ukrainians to be able to hold their front line,” a senior source said.
“In order to do that, they needed more money for weapons. If Trump was to win in January, would Trump rather have Putin marching on Kyiv because the Ukrainians had collapsed? Or keep the Ukrainians in the fight so that if he does win in January, he inherits a stalemate.”
Cameron’s message was simple: “What are the best conditions in which you as president can make a deal in January? It’s both sides holding their lines and paying a price for that.” Trump is understood to have responded: “No one has set that out for me in these terms. And I’m glad we had the conversation.”
Shortly afterwards, Trump tweeted that Europe needed to do more, but he also said: “We all want a secure and strong Ukraine,” which was taken as a green light by Republican congressmen to support the aid package.
A British source familiar with some of the behind-the-scenes conversations added that another message has been delivered to Trump by others: “We think there is mileage in presenting a set of circumstances where Trump gets to say he has been the diplomatic and military genius who brought this war to an end. That’s a big ego point for him and he would love to say that.
“On the flip side, we also think we can present to Trump the case that if Russia is seen to have won the war decisively, it’s obviously a bad thing. If that happens on Trump’s watch, it’s going to cause him a load more problems with accusations about him being close to Putin. Trump won’t want America to look like it has wimped out and lost on Trump’s watch because that would bring forward threats from China.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528136&forum_id=2#47658390)