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Date: November 4th, 2026 1:58 PM Author: ferengi MASE tell Peter Thiel to gbta (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231772) |
Date: November 4th, 2026 2:05 PM Author: gibberish (?) Why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231811) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:11 PM Author: ferengi why don't people want them? the higher electricity cost, the sound, the pollution, the potential for more toxic pollution when there's a fire, growing resentment toward AI for stealing jobs, the water usage, growing resentment toward computer for ruining society, disapproval of the surveillance state... among other things... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231830) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:16 PM Author: gibberish (?) Lots of that is bs. Data centers and AI are responsible for just about all of the economic growth over the past 5 years. The Chinese are more than happy to sub in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231846) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:16 PM Author: AZNgirl asking Democrat Handsome to Pound Her Next (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231851) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 4th, 2026 2:22 PM Author: The Penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231887) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:29 PM Author: ferengi last i heard, the Chinese were just distilling our AI tech anyways. but what exactly is the problem if they do pull ahead of us in this area? not my fault our economy is built around a bubble (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231928) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:08 PM Author: gibberish (?) Bubble? The Chinese models are about 6 months behind the US companies. However, that's like a concept car. Nobody is driving it yet. The real difference is the ecosystem. China had about a quarter of the computational power of the US. That allows US companies better access and spreads the potential list of innovators across a much wider pool. That's also remarkable because the Chinese have about twice as much electricity capacity and obviously very limited environmental concerns.
The US currently uses access to AI as a foreign policy tool as well, which has been extremely effective at countering the Chinese belt & road initiative. Right or wrong, AI is the bet to grow productivity while population declines. Whoever wins this race will set the system for the next generation. |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:11 PM Author: ferengi ok but again, what's the issue if China does pull ahead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232141) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:12 PM Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.:: lol
they should use you in the anti-AI commercials. |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:12 PM Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.:: (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232150) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:10 PM Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.:: (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232138) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 4th, 2026 2:26 PM Author: The Penis independent reviews have refuted most of that stuff. most of them don't generate noise complaints, they generate a tiny percent of emissions, and use about as much water as an avg office building
https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/R49057.html |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:26 PM Author: tall man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231911) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:28 PM Author: Darnell then build them without diesel or natural gas generators onsite.
and build them in atherton and newport beach and greenwich. the guys profiting off them and speculation around ai would love to have them next door |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:32 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. These are backup generators that only turn on when power is out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231948) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:33 PM Author: Darnell lol, you dumbass. they're building so fast that electric grids can't keep up and using the backup generators regularly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231955) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:41 PM Author: frank rizzo jfc. if this keeps up we might actually wind up having to build shit in this country instead of china. worst of all, some Trump voters may even end up getting jobs out of it. can't have that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231990) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:41 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231993) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:43 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Running backup generators permanently is incredibly expensive and will wear them out. This is a great opportunity for Florida though. We can just build some power plants and invite the data centers to build here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232004) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:59 PM Author: gibberish (?) Building them so fast...that right there should tell you something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232080) |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: November 4th, 2026 3:00 PM Author: richard clock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232088) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:30 PM Author: faglord (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231935) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:31 PM Author: ferengi nah i've seen proof of everything i said. maybe you're being exposed to misinformation. https://youtu.be/_bP80DEAbuo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231944) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:36 PM Author: ohnoes (🧐) public opinion is purely based on vibes of "computer/screen = bad" and hating data centers is just a proxy for general malaise and desire for punishment. you could also argue that, I don't know, the downtowns of cities are huge sources of noise pollution and water consumption, because anything where stuff happens in a concentrated area is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231969) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:53 PM Author: ferengi yeah the water consumption always seemed like a silly argument because all the computer stuff we already do consumes a bunch of water, and closed-loop cooling systems recycle the water anyways. like when someone writes an insta comment like "yOu WaStEd WaTeR fOr ThIs?" in response to someone using AI for something, i'm like "bro you just wasted water writing this comment" lol.
the sound one is legit though, and it's not just the perceptible sound; they can also make residents ill with infrasound pollution. yes cities are also loud but this is qualitatively different. and even if it were just comparable to city noise, many people who don't live in cities value not having to deal with that. |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 4th, 2026 3:00 PM Author: The Penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232090) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:40 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,;:,:,,:,.,:,::,..;.,:,.:;.:.,;.:.,:.::, just admit you want full-fledged communism, it'd be more honest and you wouldn't have to defend yourself with nonsense arguments cited from influencer entertainment videos. i'd personally respect you more for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231983) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:41 PM Author: ohnoes (🧐) data center opposition is most certainly not exclusively democrat. it's more like 65/35 and the republicans who oppose it are generally are country types that XO reveres (or used to anyway). there is tons of anti-data center sentiment in are country because it's a stand in for technology writ large (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231995) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:44 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,;:,:,,:,.,:,::,..;.,:,.:;.:.,;.:.,:.::, sadly about a third of republicans are also communists in waiting just needing to be inspired by the right candidate. it would've been bernie if they let him run in 2016. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232007) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:54 PM Author: ohnoes (🧐) yeah nothing says "communist in waiting" like mt airy and shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232057) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 4th, 2026 2:57 PM Author: The Penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232073) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:45 PM Author: ferengi 🙄🙄🙄 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232010) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 4th, 2026 2:56 PM Author: The Penis I'm not saying there is no proof that any data centers pollute or use water or are noisy, but I tend to be much more skeptical of the kinds of sensationalized influencer propagated content that make blanket statements against a technology being Bad, and that this technology does x, y and z universally, and take more seriously independent reviews that actually look at the specifications of specific instances of it. I can't say that generally no data centers do things that some people wouldn't like, but what I can say with confidence is that the concerns are overblown and it is suspicious that they are directed at "data centers" vs. anything else. why suddenly the focus on "data centers" vs. other technologies that use electricity and water? there are obviously motivations behind the fixation and those motivations can be attacked. It has become a politically charged category onto which people project broader anxieties about AI, corporations, and technological change. I become really skeptical when politically charged categories like this arise. You could have two equally polluting and energy using facilities, a manufacturing plant and a data center and people will oppose the data center now because of vibes, with no material difference between them. |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:04 PM Author: ferengi yeah your position that the criticism is overblown is defensible considering how much you like computer. i don't think it's overblown based on the concrete evidence i've seen of communities facing these issues plus all my doubts about the direction of technology. for me personally the biggest issue is the surveillance state aspect of it. they only need to build all these data centers bc this industry is all about extracting and selling our data and using it to manipulate and ultimately control us. we're not building these so like AI can discover cures for diseases lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232110) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:28 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,;:,:,,:,.,:,::,..;.,:,.:;.:.,;.:.,:.::, tell me what research you've done besides consuming social media and dem pr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231925) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:12 PM Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.:: LOL you are an ignoramus who gets your 'information' from TikTok slop.
LOL the sound? These are built in industrial zones and are located far enough away with buffers that they can't be heard. Pollution? It's literally a bunch of fucking computer racks....there is no fucking pollution. Studies are mixed on the electricity cost, with some showing they actually reduce costs. Water usage is less than heavy industry and less than agriculture, before even factoring in that they produce a lot more value per dollar consumed than these other industries. |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:16 PM Author: AZNgirl asking Democrat Handsome to Pound Her Next ppl are retarded and propositions are retarded, this is why u have representative democracy, u cant let prowl morons vote on shit like this. they just hear crap and vote based on that, its low info low IQ retardation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231850) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:18 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. All the AI companies have to do is buy off the Republican mayors in whatever places they want to put them and they’ll let them do what they want (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231861) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:19 PM Author: we are definitely claiming fraud trumpmos (oppose israel bois) Elon Musk is going to spend 50 billion in political ads until you do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231865) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 4th, 2026 2:21 PM Author: The Penis Why would you be against it? Most of the anti-datacenter sentiment is driven by what borderline amounts to propaganda and misinformation along with general anti-sentiment. At the very least it is amplification of some legit concerns and oversimplification. There is strong evidence of some of it being driven by literal foreign propaganda. Data centers are essential infrastructure for cloud computing, scientific research and ai. Regulations on it doesn't evens top it, it just slows it down and makes it more expensive, then smaller providers can't compete with aws, microsoft and google. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231879) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:24 PM Author: (*)> (i'm in your city) why would we want gigantic windowless boxes shitting up the land? and yes, i am willing to sacrifice on cloud computing, scientic research, and ai
also, what computer autists can't understand, as has been shown year over year over year issue over issue over issue, is people don't like computer. me included |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:28 PM Author: Fat Chick Who Mentions Husband Every 45 Seconds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231923) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 4th, 2026 2:29 PM Author: The Penis That's all subjective vibes based bs. Noones slowing down the economy, and not building the tech they want because you think data centers are ugly and don't like computers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231931) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:09 PM Author: (*)> (i'm in your city) the question was, "why would anyone be against data centers." i explained why
as to whether data centers are "ugly," for your further understanding, that's not it. they're a symbol of a life / country / future that people don't want
but this aside, to your point about not building "the tech," though it wasn't the original point of this subthread wasteland, as someone in the Valley, I can tell you that the infrastructure bubble (i.e., more specific than "AI" adoption as a whole) is and will slow |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: November 4th, 2026 3:01 PM Author: richard clock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232095) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:28 PM Author: ferengi as much as i enjoy the chatbots, that shit's ruining society (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231922) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:29 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,;:,:,,:,.,:,::,..;.,:,.:;.:.,;.:.,:.::, all this proves is that democracy destroys itself. "the people" are retarded. you know this but will never allow yourself to consciously admit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231926) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:58 PM Author: ohnoes (🧐) fuck you, bug man. anyone who yearns for some "technocratic elite" state should be kicked in the nuts and executed for being anti-american (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232077) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:30 PM Author: '"'"'"''" Everyone wants to use AI but no one wants data centers.
The American electatorate, folks. |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:30 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231937) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:33 PM Author: ferengi as useful as AI is, i think most people would be willing to give it up. not worth the dystopia. i def would and i use chatbots most days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231960) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:36 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231973) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:35 PM Author: Darnell does everyone want ai? a lot of people who have invested in ai want everyone to use it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231965) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:37 PM Author: ferengi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231976) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:31 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Ok, so given the election results what will stop them from building a bunch of data centers in rural Florida? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231942) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:33 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. like anyone gives a shit about rural Florida (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231959) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:40 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. So if they build large data centers in Florida then they are done. They can use that to service all the AI they need. This isn't generally a super latency sensitive function. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231986) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 4th, 2026 2:41 PM Author: The Penis nothing. data center capacity under construction increased like 25% between December 2025 and June 2026. it's a Joke noone is stopping shit. you can have restrictive policies on certain projects and in certain areas and still have massive nationwide expansion. that's another reason I'm not big on heavy regulations, it just makes things more expensive and slower and doesn't stop huge hyperscalers with deep pockets so it stifles competition and smaller players (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231994) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:48 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Right, but there will be places like Florida where even the smaller players can set up shop. There is no reason why you need to build a data center in California or some other place likely to cause problems for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232023) |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 4th, 2026 2:59 PM Author: The Penis yeah good point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232079) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:35 PM Author: ....;..;...;;;.....;;......;; Trump campaigning in support of data centers is partly to blame for this bloodbath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231966) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:35 PM Author: frank rizzo Libs love the idea of AI tech further hollowing out the middle class and bloating the surveillance state as a concept, but the idea of it involving actual humans actually building shit in this country that might benefit someone other than the ultra wealthy & Chinese is a bridge too far (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231967) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:41 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe The fear of job loss is what's driving the anti-AI and data center sentiment. Most of the other stuff ("they're noisy!") is just bs cover that doesn't withstand scrutiny. The GOP has been far more willing to allow AI companies to develop without regulation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50231992) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:45 PM Author: frank rizzo if we don't do it then the Chinese will instead and the end result will be worse wrt jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232011) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:48 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232025) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 2:53 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe If we're headed to an awful dystopia because of AI then we should work to limit or regulate as we've done with nukes. "but, but, but CHINA!" isn't an argument. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232055) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:01 PM Author: frank rizzo China isn't going to "limit or regulate" jack shit. worrying about regulating it is all the more reason to do it here
no one has ever even coherently said what AI even does. fme it's just a possibly better/often wrong google search version and writes long winded obviously fake sounding and often factually incorrect emails. plus the whole making fake nude pics of girls you went to HS with thing |
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bc1qfk03xf3zekand03r6xut652mq049duj7yhw3rt Date: November 4th, 2026 3:03 PM Author: The Penis just discovered gpt 3? in 2026 it can engineer complex applications end to end with little human guidance now and solve problems in pure path and physics that human prodigies weren't smart enough to solve (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232104) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:08 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. What AI does? It can basically do 95% of stuff white collar workers do. Write code? It can do that and very quickly. Do legal analysis? Yep. Turn everything you did into a quick status report entry? Absolutely. It can replace rooms full of customer service agents. It can replace rooms full of coders. Yes, there will still be a need for SOME humans but it will be a fraction of what you see now. That said, the idea of "regulating it" seems naive. It just won't work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232129) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:05 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. I'm not even sure that will work. AI isn't like nukes even though people keep acting like it is. You can't access nukes through the cloud. Unless everyone on the planet agrees to limit AI and enforce it you're going to see AI continue to be used everywhere relatively unfettered. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232112) |
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0xCE955F7F2A24fB8A7c3cd6F115F65E016c785EC8 Date: November 4th, 2026 3:02 PM Author: richard clock if we dont advance the tech the chinese wont have anything to steal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232100) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:09 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. Yeah, sure. You realize that many American companies love using Chinese LLMs over American ones because they're better, right? Especially in the area of on-prem AI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232135) |
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Date: November 4th, 2026 3:09 PM Author: Anglo living on the Rez they should put them in areas with lots of water and in abandoned shopping centers not in the middle of fucking new mexico (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5918728&forum_id=2#50232134) |