Hardcore litigators to file thermonuclear lawsuit against lib journos (xoElon)
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Date: November 18th, 2023 12:34 PM Author: Plum piazza
Apparently this is to be filed the second courts open on Monday (suggesting either a pro se or small claims filing rather than by ECF)
https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-vows-thermonuclear-lawsuit-against-media-matters-amid-advertiser-exodus
Elon Musk vowed to hit Media Matters for America, a nonprofit media watchdog group, with a “thermonuclear lawsuit” after the organization published a story showcasing major companies’ advertisements on X, the company formerly known as Twitter, appearing next to bigoted and white nationalist posts.
The Media Matters story found a dozen instances of advertisements run by companies including Amazon, NBCUniversal Catalyst and NBA Mexico next to posts featuring “White Lives Matter” and “white pride world wide” hashtags.
Musk conceded the instances were real, but characterized each as a “rare instance” and alleged that Media Matters manufactured a scenario to make such cases appear more often than they ordinarily would for the average user.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47071058) |
Date: November 18th, 2023 1:55 PM Author: smoky fighting scourge upon the earth
To be fair,
Whoa, conturds are now filing ridiculous and frivolous lawsuits in a blatant attempt to waste the resources of their enemies and tie them up stupid court proceedings?
This is a new low; truly disgusting behavior that we should make a point of calling out and mocking at every turn, IMO. These people are very sick, I mean, who does something like that?!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47071327) |
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Date: November 18th, 2023 2:03 PM Author: smoky fighting scourge upon the earth
To be fair,
Whoa, so you're telling me that conturds DON'T file frivolous lawsuits to waste the time, money, and resources of their enemies on bullshit?
Well thank god they haven't escalated to doing that!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47071354) |
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Date: November 18th, 2023 2:07 PM Author: smoky fighting scourge upon the earth
To be fair,
Whew, thank God bitch bois never actually go through with this and stoop to the level of filing outrageously frivolous lawsuits that are clearly just aimed at wasting their opponents' time and money by tying them up in court while simultaneously creating a tenuous basis for running outrageous headlines in legacy media outlets about how "High Profile Person / Entity Y is being SUED!!! (omgomgomg) for (Meritless) Claim X."
Sure hope no group of people ever systematically and cynically weaponizes the glorious American judicial and legacy media system like that as a crude cudgel with which to strike out at their ideological enemies!
Haha yeah, haha.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47071367) |
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Date: November 18th, 2023 11:36 PM Author: smoky fighting scourge upon the earth
To be fair,
State your JD-granting institution before I engage with you further, Karen Tatum Jones
(I'll wait)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47073175) |
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Date: November 18th, 2023 2:27 PM Author: Plum piazza
(ZZZ)
Lol no it won’t. Your belief is that English courts assert worldwide jurisdiction? The Law of the Sea or something?
He won’t file at all, bc he’s a YSFFM bitch boi
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47071406) |
Date: November 18th, 2023 2:35 PM Author: Plum piazza
Hardcore litigator: “Sir we are required to file under CA law and only in California:
The laws of the State of California, excluding its choice of law provisions, will govern these Terms and any dispute that arises between you and us. All disputes related to these Terms or the Services will be brought solely in the federal or state courts located in San Francisco County, California, United States“
xoElon: “that’s not hardcore; your fired.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47071432) |
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Date: November 21st, 2023 10:54 AM Author: electric embarrassed to the bone range affirmative action
"The truth bore no resemblance to Media Matters’ narrative. In fact, IBM’s, Comcast’s, and Oracle’s paid posts appeared alongside the fringe content cited by Media Matters
for only one viewer (out of more than 500 million) on all of X: Media Matters. Not a single authentic user of the X platform saw IBM’s, Comcast’s, or Oracle’s ads next to that content, which Media Matters achieved only through its manipulation of X’s algorithms as described above. And
in Apple’s case, only two out of more than 500 million active users saw its ad appear alongside the fringe content cited in the article—at least one of which was Media Matters."
For normal people, this would be pretty damning. But I am sure some jews would make some excuse why this is OK
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47081873) |
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Date: November 21st, 2023 11:04 AM Author: coral gaming laptop gunner
Thanks. I had AI summarize it below:
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The complaint arises out of actions taken by Media Matters for America ("Media Matters") and its writer Eric Hananoki regarding the X social media platform, owned and operated by plaintiff X Corp. Compl. ¶¶ 2, 15-17. X Corp. filed suit against Media Matters and Hananoki in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas, Fort Worth Division, alleging three causes of action: (I) interference with contract; (II) business disparagement; and (III) interference with prospective economic advantage. Id. ¶¶ 18-20, 42-57. X Corp. claims venue is proper because "a substantial part of the events giving rise to the claims occurred herein" and because "a substantial part of the property that is subject of the action—that is X's business and advertising—is situated in the district." Id. ¶ 20.
The crux of X Corp.'s complaint is that Media Matters "intentionally manipulated" X's platform and algorithms to "manufacture rare pairings of ads by major advertisers next to fringe, racist content." Id. ¶ 25. Specifically, X Corp. alleges that Media Matters "used an account active for over 30 days" and configured that account to "follow[] only 30 fringe and advertiser accounts." Id. ¶¶ 29-30. Through "excessively scrolling and refreshing," Media Matters then "override[d] safeguards" and "generated between 13 and 15 times more advertisements per hour than would be seen by a typical user," thereby "seeking to force a situation in which a brand ad post appeared adjacent to fringe content." Id. ¶ 31. X Corp. claims Media Matters took screenshots of these "engineered" juxtapositions involving ads by IBM, Apple, Comcast, and others next to inflammatory content. Id. ¶ 32.
X Corp.'s complaint focuses heavily on the allegation that Media Matters intentionally concealed its manipulation from readers and advertisers. Id. section III. For example, X Corp. alleges that "Media Matters omitted in its entirety its process of manufacturing these ad pairings" in its November 16, 2023 article and made "no attempt to clarify the rarity of these pairings," which constituted just "0.0000009090909 percent of impressions served on the day in question." Id. ¶¶ 33-35. Further, through "deceptive image selection," Media Matters allegedly "hid[] its deceit through even more deceit" by cropping screenshots "containing only the ad and the controversial content" to exclude contextual posts. Id. ¶¶ 36-37. By concealing its methodology, X Corp. claims that Media Matters created the "false, misleading perception that these types of pairings were common, widespread, and alarming" both for platform users and major advertisers. Id. ¶ 35.
Several advertisers, including Comcast, NBCUniversal, Apple, and IBM reacted swiftly to Media Matters’ piece, pulling their ads from X Corp’s platform. Id. ¶ 39. X Corp. expressly alleges that “Media Matter’ intentional manipulation was so severe that companies not even featured in the article also pulled ads," resulting in substantial revenue and business losses for X Corp. Id. ¶ 40. Ultimately, X Corp. claims Media Matters’ “all-out campaign” through “systematic, harassing attacks” on X Corp. and its owner was specifically designed to “starve X of ad revenue” by interfering with contracts and economic relationships. Id. ¶ 41. For these harms, X Corp. seeks monetary damages, injunctive relief, costs and fees, as well as any other relief deemed appropriate by the court. Id. (“Prayer for Relief” section).
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47081920) |
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Date: November 21st, 2023 11:40 AM Author: Plum piazza
They're describing the unique pairing between a specific ad and a specific tweet. So if the Hitler tweets MM identified had only 10 impressions, it's no surprise that only one of them served that specific ad next to it.
Pretty much guarantee that discovery would show that the *median* specific-tweet-plus-specific-ad count across all Twitter traffic is around 1.002342.
Also imagine that when MM asks for this, the hardcore litigators will say they don't have that data, and that compiling it is disproportionate to the needs of the litigation.
Second, this is like Charles defending himself to Tucker by saying that zero blacks even saw his blank bumps in the Congo surgeon thread, but that's not the point that that CNN poster was making.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47082105) |
Date: November 21st, 2023 12:47 PM Author: nudist chapel mental disorder
Since Twitter users can curate their own advertising experience, Musk says an internal investigation shows that MMFA used Twitter/X accounts opened slightly more than 30 days ago to "evade content filtering" and then followed only extremist accounts and the platform's largest advertisers, therefore "precision design[ing]" unique pairings of the two in their feed. But, the lawsuit claims, that was still not enough to create the unique and extremist content they wanted to use in their hit pieces. Musk says that to achieve the most damning-looking content, Media Matters had to resort "to endless scrolling and refreshing its unrepresentative, hand-selected feed, generated between 13 and 15 times more advertisements per hour than the typical X user." The lawsuit says this "inauthentic activity" was kept up until MMFA got the desired result: "controversial content next to X's largest advertisers' paid posts."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47082386)
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Date: November 21st, 2023 2:47 PM Author: coral gaming laptop gunner
Materially misleading statements (i.e., facts intentionally stated so as to mislead, while withholding material disclosures necessary to make the facts stated not misleading) can be fraudulent/tortious/whatever.
The allegation as I understand it is that Media Matters intentionally created a scenario where the ads would be side-by-side and then passed it off as if it were naturalistic, all in order to hurt X. Nothing wrong in form with the allegation.
An analogy: if I run over a football helmet with a tank and then post a picture of it and say it was involved in a 'low speed vehicular incident, and this is how it stood up to it,' it might be seen as materially misleading.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47082884) |
Date: November 21st, 2023 3:54 PM Author: smoky fighting scourge upon the earth
To be fair,
Wait so just to clarify the current state of play ITT:
- EPAH originally made this thread to smugly laugh at Elon for talking shit about filing a lawsuit when "we all know" he won't actually file one (typical)
- EPAH smugly bumped this thread on Monday morning asking "so uhhhh where's the lawsuit, Trumpkins?"
- Whoops -- Elon did, in fact, file a lawsuit
- EPAH has now been forced to admit that the complaint actually contains some "pretty clever" pleadings
- Somehow, this is still all going to blow up in Elon's dumb face, just wait two weeks(?)
Did I get this right?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5446328&forum_id=2#47083269) |
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