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Glock 19 for home defense - holosun or irons?
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Date: November 27th, 2023 12:52 AM Author: odious travel guidebook Shot one for the first time this weekend and was hitting everything in the 10 or 9 using just irons (out to about 30 feet). Everything I read online says get a holosun but not sure if it's worth it if I'm already a good shot with the irons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47103261) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 7:02 AM Author: Frum multi-billionaire faggotry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47153781) |
Date: December 9th, 2023 11:03 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy immigrant Home defense shots will be fired within 15 feet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47152936) |
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Date: December 9th, 2023 11:06 PM Author: Mischievous private investor state not worth it, just more shit to deal with and you have to make sure the dot is the right brightness for your light conditions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47152949) |
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Date: December 9th, 2023 11:09 PM Author: odious travel guidebook Get the holosun. I can shoot the same way when at the range but if someone breaks in and adrenaline is flowing I want the red dot. Just learn how to present so the dot shows up quickly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47152961) |
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Date: December 9th, 2023 11:18 PM Author: Mischievous private investor state if you can't get irons on target at 10 yards a red dot isn't going to help you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47152989) |
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Date: December 9th, 2023 11:47 PM Author: Red trailer park ive seen multiple interviews with ex delta force dudes, and most of them now carry wtih red dots on their handguns.
also that guy who stopped a mass shooting at a mall hit the shooter from like 50 feet away using a red dot on his handgun
also aren't most of these red dots cowitness with the iron sights anyway? |
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Date: December 9th, 2023 11:54 PM Author: Mischievous private investor state if you have suppressor height sights, which you probably don't
and the fact that something can very marginally improve performance under certain conditions for top level performers doesn't mean it will do shit for you, it's like handing a noob a vintage les paul, it isn't going to make a difference to him playing three chords |
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Date: December 9th, 2023 11:57 PM Author: glittery ratface nursing home Imma compose stairway to heaven on that bogey's forehead baby ba-blam! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47153125) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:28 AM Author: cobalt orchestra pit fat ankles for home defense id get something steel or alloy framed, with big and heavy rounds that wont over penetrate walls. my home gun is a 220 combat with 230 grain defense rounds, 10+1 extended mag.
for 9mm id suggest something like a cz-75 loaded with 124 or even 147 grain |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:33 AM Author: Mischievous private investor state that's not how heavy rounds work bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47153192) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:37 AM Author: vibrant carnelian party of the first part explain
rtmi |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:39 AM Author: Mischievous private investor state heavier bullets retain energy better and penetrate further as a general rule (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47153206) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:52 AM Author: vibrant carnelian party of the first part ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47153225) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 10:23 AM Author: cobalt orchestra pit fat ankles you're correct, my mistake
i should have said you want bigger/heavier because you want to stay subsonic. assume night time + no hearing protection, the bigger rounds will have less muzzle flash (lighter defense rounds are often +p) and won't have the ssonic crack to them.
home defense, you don't care about weight, so steel or alloy frame of a mid or full size gun gives you more accuracy and less recoil.
again, in 9mm i'd say cz75, sig 229 or 226 (225 is still my favorite to hold, but it's low capacity), or a beretta 92.
in 45, metal framed options that aren't single-action only are pretty limited, but a 220 won't let you down. |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 10:28 AM Author: deranged ultramarine gaming laptop Everything penetrates walls. Even shotguns. Walls are weak as fuck. Studs are another matter but drywall is like glass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154018) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 11:37 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy immigrant What about hollow points? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154254) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 11:45 AM Author: Razzmatazz drab center You should only be loading hollow points whether at home or outside (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154279) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:04 PM Author: deranged ultramarine gaming laptop buy some drywall at Home Depot and shoot some hollow points at it. It’ll pierce multiple layers. There are YouTube videos on this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154348) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:38 AM Author: Razzmatazz drab center Get a trijicon. Your life is worth the extra $100-200. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47153203) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:52 AM Author: vibrant carnelian party of the first part whats the cr night or hunting version?
these look 18900980840283028032
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Date: December 10th, 2023 2:13 AM Author: Razzmatazz drab center I meant the RMR rds. The glow iron sights are ok though. I have the night ones on my m&p shield and they’re 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47153467) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 3:36 AM Author: vibrant carnelian party of the first part Huh? Which is the cr night one
I want to kill things at night |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 11:42 AM Author: Razzmatazz drab center https://www.trijicon.com/products/subcategory/trijicon-rmr
For a Glock 26 or smaller get the RMRcc. No point blowing $ on fancy iron sights. |
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Date: December 11th, 2023 2:06 PM Author: vibrant carnelian party of the first part Ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47158309) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:03 PM Author: hairless razzle space https://imgs.search.brave.com/g7cs7nBXCvaCP2XgHr0h2ZHs-Lu20Xljgy4JrgUpt3Y/rs:fit:500:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9wcmV2/aWV3LnJlZGQuaXQv/dHJpamljb24tdnMt/aG9sb3N1bi12MC14/ZTFvazdvd3B3NmEx/LnBuZz93aWR0aD02/NDAmY3JvcD1zbWFy/dCZhdXRvPXdlYnAm/cz0xZWQwOWRhMzIz/YTE5MWE3ZmFjMDBm/ZThhYzA2ZDVmYmMz/MjYwNzll (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154341) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 11:15 PM Author: Red trailer park https://www.trijicon.com/products/product-family/trijicon-rmr-dual-defense-kit
seems like the 6.5 MOA dot would be credited for this |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:00 PM Author: brindle unhinged scourge upon the earth corn cake Don’t put battery powered sights on a gun that’s going to sit in your night stand. Even assuming you put in enough practice that the marginal difference between iron sights and a red dot makes a difference in a home defense scenario (you won’t) I promise you the dead battery risk is way worse than the gain. Delta guys do nothing but fuss with their guns and shit but that’s not you. I have gone through periods in my life where I shot almost every day but I haven’t touched my Glock for about 11 months right now and if someone came through my door right now I’m glad I have iron sights on it. You’ll get busy and forget about this I guarantee you.
Some faggot will tell you your battery will last 50000 hours but ime these battery life claims are bullshit and if I had to trust a gun I hadn’t touched in a year Ljl |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:08 PM Author: Razzmatazz drab center If you shoot that infrequently just change the battery at least once a year. It’s really not that risky. You can add co-witness sights too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154371) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:17 PM Author: Ebony effete locale jfc trying to explain co witness to my wife. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154407) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:18 PM Author: brindle unhinged scourge upon the earth corn cake Shooting somebody at 20 feet with iron sights isn’t very “risky” either. People can make their own decisions but if my life depended on it and I had to choose between reaching for a gun I hadn’t touched for even one month with iron sights or a red dot I would always choose iron sights. I confess that I am old and gun sight batteries were a lot worse for most of my life than they are now but Im just not willing to bet my life on batteries I don’t check constantly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154408) |
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Date: December 11th, 2023 2:59 PM Author: Razzmatazz drab center I totally get what you mean. Just feel like someone who can’t be bothered to change a battery once a year is even less likely to remember to put the front sight on target. Tech has improved so much in the last decade that all of the recent pistol additions to Cal roster have optic ready slides. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47158529) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:09 PM Author: odious travel guidebook Some of the red dots have motion sensors and the battery isn't engaged until the gun is moved/picked up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154467) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:05 PM Author: Floppy principal's office A home defense gun should be as simple and foolproof as possible. It just needs to go bang. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154355) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:09 PM Author: Razzmatazz drab center Iron sights are the least simple way to aim a gun (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154375) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:14 PM Author: Ebony effete locale for the untrained (most females, and ahem, some males), getting sight picture is not easy. i personally do not put red dots on home defense guns, because if my wife picks it up, she is going to fumble around trying to sight. not that she uses iron sights any better, but in a home defense situation, you dont want someone who isnt trained on red dot, dealing with it. as mentioned above, home defense situations are at 15 yards or less, you just want something reliable, point and shoot for the untrained. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154395) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:17 PM Author: Razzmatazz drab center Ime red dots only require significant training if you’ve already been accustomed to irons.
But agree that she needs to get to a range once in a while. If it’s not feasible then get her a single action revolver with a laser grip imo. Keep the trigger weight low and maybe keep the first chamber empty. Or a shield EZ9 with a good stream light laser. |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:31 PM Author: Ebony effete locale xoxo has really changed my opinion on revolvers. i used to think they were just old worthless pieces of junk. but now i believe it is one of the best options for home defense for the untrained. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154416) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 11:04 PM Author: Floppy principal's office Revolvers are 180. I have one and wife has one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47156386) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 11:04 PM Author: Floppy principal's office That was my point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47156384) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:18 PM Author: cowardly whorehouse water buffalo i second what ll cool j has said so far and would add that if youre set on a 9mm glock why not a 17 or 45 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154410) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:15 PM Author: razzle-dazzle sick hissy fit get a good light with strobe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5450888&forum_id=2#47154492) |