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Trial hack: have a case worth taking to trial, not a pile of shit that's DOA
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Date: December 9th, 2023 11:31 PM Author: Swashbuckling indigo station party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47153037) |
Date: December 9th, 2023 11:41 PM Author: Chocolate federal university coldplay fan Correct. Just because you got an A- in evidence doesn't mean your stupid ass is working miracles with a dog, junior. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47153074) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:00 AM Author: Filthy Mind-boggling Dilemma Learn to recognize what cases are worth a jury's time.
If you go to trial and the jury only awards your client ONLY the medical bills, then it still comes out as a wash and and waste of your time and money. |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:54 AM Author: Swashbuckling indigo station party of the first part "But you showed you're not afraid go to trial." I always lol'd at that one. Why don't you find out for yourself if I'm afraid of that? You got my phone number. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47153401) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 12:18 PM Author: Filthy Mind-boggling Dilemma "You're not afraid to go to trial" is some Boomer lawyer bullshit.
State Farm made $80+ billion in 2022. Do you think they give a FLYING FUCK about this bullshit trial where the Plaintiff got a $25k/$30k verdict (or whatever the policy limits are)
The only thing the lawyer proved is that they are willing to waste 18 months to chase after a $8-9,000 Attorney fee.
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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:12 PM Author: Poppy theatre Tbf, as a defense attorney I will always underpay a pl attorney I know will never go to trial. Some attys are absolutely terrified of it and will do anything to not have to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47154478) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 1:21 PM Author: Filthy Mind-boggling Dilemma Sure, but how much MOAR are you really going to pay that PL Attorney that you know "isn't afraid of going to trial"?
Are you really going to tender the policy limits to that lawyer vs paying the other one thousands less? |
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Date: December 11th, 2023 11:09 AM Author: Poppy theatre Probably. I've got one right now with Pl attorney who we know will probably throw up on his shoes if he were to try the case. Dude is sending me settlement demands left and right trying to get me above $25k. Case could be worth more than that if a competent attorney was on the other side, but might as well see how low this donkey is going to go to avoid pissing himself in front of 12 people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47157498) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 2:13 PM Author: Swashbuckling indigo station party of the first part You don't need to look at someone's track record to figure this out. Talk to them on the phone, do a depo, watch how they handle themselves at status conferences... they are either pussy-ass faggots or they aren't. Furthermore I don't care how many times a guy has been to trial if he seems like a dumbfuck. EPAH says he goes to trial all the time, but he can't describe even of opposing counsel's exhibits in the thread where he mocks opposing counsel for losing track of his own exhibits. He is lazy and stupid and brags about winning trials against soupcan lawyers with crooked clients. I never heard him tell about the time his client was guilty as fuck, but flipped the switch and assfucked the doods who were suing him. I guess EPAH has never done that. Never heard EPAH tell about the time he settled a case for his client, then made someone else pay for it with interest.
I think a lot of this "trial" shit is about introverts not knowing how to come out of their shell. If you are naturally assertive I don't know what the big deal is. I don't feel like trials are any different than any other procedure. I've never sat around and thought about how many trials I've done. |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 2:16 PM Author: fantasy-prone beady-eyed hunting ground space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47154655) |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 7:49 PM Author: Filthy Mind-boggling Dilemma "Talk to them on the phone, do a depo, watch how they handle themselves at status conferences... they are either pussy-ass faggots or they aren't."
This is CR.
I lay out my trial strategy as the case progresses. There is no point in trying to hold anything clsoe to the vest. Discovery is just for me to build up just enough evidence to get past your bullshit MSJ that I know your insurance slavelords will make you file.
Once I have made it past MSJ, then I'm gonna tell you everything thing I intend on arguing at trial because I know there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Your client failed to preserve evidence? Motion for Spoliation, faggot.
Your client has done this sort of thing in the past and was WELL AWARE of the risks involved? Punitive damages, my niggah.
By the time we get to trial, you already know that I know my way around the courtroom. The question is just how much your claims adjuster wants to gamble on the case. |
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Date: December 11th, 2023 11:10 AM Author: Poppy theatre Even so, a dumbass attorney with a good case can make you look bad even if you do everything right. Had that happen before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47157501) |
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Date: December 11th, 2023 11:12 AM Author: Swashbuckling indigo station party of the first part If you're "doing everything right" (whatever that means) you know if you have a weak case. You sound like you've been ambushed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47157520) |
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Date: December 11th, 2023 4:29 PM Author: Poppy theatre Brain injury cases are difficult because there's so much room for fraud. In a case we tried last year, Pl claimed brain injury, had fraud neuro doctor say she'd need botox for her brain injury headaches for life. We had our doctors say the opposite.
Plaintiff's counsel was totally incompetent. Opening was mostly her telling the jury how nervous she was. She then forgot to introduce her life care plan into evidence, so lost that. Their closing was the worst powerpoint you can imagine. Black text on white screen.
They crawled to us with a settlement offer $1m below their last demand, which we rejected. They got around $200k more than our pre-trial offer, which was probably the right amount, but still ridiculous they got anything.
Afterwards, one juror signed an affidavit saying she'd been pressured into giving the verdict by the foreman, but that never went anywhere. |
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Date: December 11th, 2023 4:32 PM Author: Swashbuckling indigo station party of the first part What I hate most about trials is watching other lawyers do them. That nails on chalkboard sound you have to endure while the case just dies there. That "law school wasn't the right move for you" feeling you get in your gut. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47158929) |
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Date: December 16th, 2023 7:49 PM Author: Filthy Mind-boggling Dilemma "They crawled to us with a settlement offer $1m below their last demand, which we rejected."
What the absolute fuck???
Why would Plaintiff ever come to you with any "offer" once the trial has started. If I pick a jury, then I've decided that I will wait for their VERDICT vs trying to open negotiations again.
"They got around $200k more than our pre-trial offer"
So they told you to go fuck yourselves and they convinced a jury to give them $200,000 more than what your dumbass adjuster wanted to spend?
That sounds like a "Win" to me.
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Date: December 16th, 2023 9:08 PM Author: Swashbuckling indigo station party of the first part Quit law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47178316) |
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Date: December 16th, 2023 10:25 PM Author: Poppy theatre Yeah, I said they won, despite their poor performance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47178573) |
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Date: December 11th, 2023 11:13 AM Author: fear-inspiring pit one weird trick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5457984&forum_id=2#47157526) |