the ICE deportations are retarded
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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:39 PM Author: cock of michael obama
its not hard to kick out *all* the illegals without *any* physical deportations if the political willpower was there (it’s not)
#1 ban sending funds via western union to latam countries
#2 enforce criminal penalties on *employers* who hire illegals
#3 defund the organizations who continue to give illegals funds
all these mud creatures would self deport, all of them, if those #3 conditions were met
but they aren't met because the elite objective is not to get rid of illegals at all.
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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:45 PM Author: "'''""""'"'"
a major issue is that you have entire communities of illegals and politically motivated activists working to make it as difficult, ponderous, and costly as possible to enforce the basic state necessity of having a citizen-alien distinction.
not for much in the way of expansions of state power nor things like plainclothes cops abducting otherwise law abiding guests in the country but trump is between a rock and a hard place in this one. the insanity of the last two decades regarding the valorization of what's effectively a left-wing enabled looting of the treasury and all of the public funds that the state is supposed to be overseeing on behalf of the citizenry is to blame.
novel legislation is desperately needed on the matter. it is an actual crisis. without borders both between nations and between citizens and aliens, there is effectively no nation-state.
1 is sound but would be difficult to enforce without some lateral loss in function for law enforcement for reasons relating to centralization.
2 is something that needs to be eased into, as blanket enforcement would and has lead to losses in agricultural production.
3 i agree with in spirit but there are legal difficulties in how you go about this. legislation or possibly a well written couple of EOs would solve it.
elite mindsets are changing. the events spurred on by '23 and on have a lot of people normally too insulated by their wealth and status to care thinking differently about things like this.
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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:55 PM Author: autoadmit twitter group chatter
great poast
i'd add that the trump administration specifically is working within the realities of electoral politics: there are things that they can and can't do because of loyalties, political deals, donors, lines that they can and can't push, etc
they have done a great job of scaring new people away from jumping the border and incentivizing self-deportations too, which has always been the #1 step to take to try to solve this problem, since it requires no resources or risk
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:07 PM Author: cock of michael obama
Yes, effective enforcement is close to impossible for political and economic reasons, but we just say it like it is then: trump’s deportations are a media fig leaf and wildly ineffective. It’s meant to mollify the base a bit without doing much. So stop buying into the media’s endless lying framing on this (and every other issue).
Republican donors like open borders because it means cheap labor and expanded population for consumer goods, democrats like it because muds vote Dem and it resulted in a supermajority dem California, Jews like it because mixed race muds = whites can’t rebel, and the central bank owners like it if they want to go from nation states to Orwellian superstate blocs
The poor white guy mad about all of this doesn’t matter to them
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:13 PM Author: autoadmit twitter group chatter
there's not some kind of cynical "pretend" scheme going on here. the trump administration clearly wants to deport as many people as they can. stephen miller, the guy who is second-in-command to trump on this, is practically a caricature of a deportationmaxxer
they're not trying to "mollify the base," this is just the best they can do within the limitations that they face, described above. you can say that they could do a better job, and that's definitely true. you can always do better at anything. a perfectly skilled agent in stephen miller's position, supervising entirely perfectly skilled agents, would do much better than they're currently doing. but to say that they're deliberately not trying is just obviously wrong and frankly just weird and silly
you see this take all the time from a lot of people and it's clear that they haven't actually thought about it for 30 seconds or so and realized how silly it is
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:18 PM
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Why does anyone bother arguing with cock of Michael Obama in good faith like this
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:25 PM Author: autoadmit twitter group chatter
yeah yeah i know
i'm mostly just talking out loud to myself because it's pretty absurd how often you see this same "take" that he made, from all kinds of different people
it's just shocking that even quite intelligent people can end up in a place where they're proclaiming a world-model in which the trump administration, whose entire mandate is to deport as many people as they can, staffed by people who very clearly genuinely want to deport people en masse, run by stephen miller, is secretly running a cynical scheme in which they're only doing the minimum amount of deportations that they think they can get away with in order to "trick the public"
it's like i said: if you spend even 30 seconds thinking about it, you realize how silly it is. but people don't even do that. they put essentially zero thought into their world-models and end up with these goofy reflexive "takes" on stuff that collapse under any scrutiny at all
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:19 PM Author: cock of michael obama
your take is simply wrong, and i would encourage you to read the following link by kynosargas back in 2019 about why populism *always* fails in a democracy: https://archive.ph/dmmtD
basically:
1. Right-wing populists have no awareness of the depth of the problem and the necessity of a massive social transformation.
2. Right-wing populists consider metapolitics irrelevant. They view our plight as strictly a matter of state policy, therefore solvable by the legislative and executive branches (which is understandable given point 1).
3. Right-wing populists do not command parliamentary majorities or sole governments – neither in the past nor in the present, nor likely in the future. They are always in opposition or dependent on coalition partners who are not right-wing populists.
4. The institutional corset of late liberalism narrows the factual scope for political action to such a degree that profound changes are impossible.
5. Right-wing populists offer no grand designs for solutions because they lack a positive alternative framework beyond “liberalism without foreigners” (which is closely linked to points 1 and 2).
6. Right-wing populists are objectively too slow even where they bring about changes. A critical comparison between the development of right-wing populism and demographics during recent decades clearly shows that this approach is impossible solely due to lack of time (ignoring points 1–5).
therefore, even if trump and stephen miller and his administration "actually trying" to deport some people, but failing, is irrelevant to the actual deeper process occurring here, which you completely miss.
but more deeply, and i want to thank you for unintentionally inspiring this over the past week, but i have a future post planned on the nature of language - what it's used for. basically, our core clash is because you and i employ language *entirely differently*. i'll probably post it within the next couple weeks
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:39 PM Author: "'''""""'"'"
i don't really agree with the presuppositions involved
all these internet bloggers push junk theories written in rigid seeming but very transient in reality psuedotheory to provide an authoritative or lasting tone to comments on phenomena that are usually very situational and dated. (clique cough theory)
"they're sincerely trying, but the fight is poorly understood and attached to a vipers nest of complications" is a correct take on the matter. a productive bit of discussion on the matter would be legislative solutions regarding how to deal with said complications
i like the idea of producing an official sort of neither citizen nor alien class of identification for migrant workers. iirc eisenhower and i think jfk's admin had discussions about how to do this, although it didn't really go anywhere
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:15 PM
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the point is that we don't want all these fucking minorities shitting up our country. a lid needs to put on it.
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Date: June 26th, 2025 5:56 PM Author: autoadmit twitter group chatter
Trump: "We're going to fully fund the final sections of border wall, impose a new remittance tax on money sent back to foreign countries, and dramatically increase deportations to a bare minimum of 1 million illegal aliens per year."
https://x.com/TPostMillennial/status/1938341902320894230
we'll see how much of this they're able to get done, but at least they're voluntarily publicly verbalizing standards that they can be held to
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Date: June 26th, 2025 8:25 PM Author: cock of michael obama
YAWN
dementia joe let in *20 million illegals* between 2021-2025
if orange retard evicts 5% of them, let alone get back to 2021 baseline (when 50 million needed to be expelled) wake me up
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