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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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bespoke persian
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
razzle-dazzle doctorate
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
razzle-dazzle doctorate
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Carmine laser beams
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
irate ultramarine boistinker
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Salmon racy stage
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Vermilion turdskin
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Bronze cruise ship
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Bronze cruise ship
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Bronze cruise ship
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
domesticated awkward kitchen multi-billionaire
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
onyx irradiated dilemma
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
sinister aqua rigor
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Salmon racy stage
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
bespoke persian
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
rambunctious stimulating senate internal respiration
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
mischievous mental disorder stag film
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
comical haunted graveyard
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
bespoke persian
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Dull Boyish Native
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/26/25
...
high-end thirsty principal's office pisswyrm
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
bearded zippy parlour
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
aggressive forum jap
  06/26/25
...
Aphrodisiac Community Account
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Multi-colored dog poop
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Bipolar excitant telephone jew
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Turquoise dysfunction
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Bipolar excitant telephone jew
  06/27/25
How was penn?
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Salmon racy stage
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Vermilion turdskin
  06/27/25
...
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Titillating Cream Coffee Pot Affirmative Action
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Bipolar excitant telephone jew
  06/27/25
...
Odious dingle berry
  06/27/25
...
alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Turquoise dysfunction
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Vermilion turdskin
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Cracking Puce Hominid Deer Antler
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Salmon racy stage
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
bearded zippy parlour
  06/27/25
...
Pink address
  06/27/25
...
Salmon racy stage
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: bespoke persian

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle doctorate

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle doctorate

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Carmine laser beams

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: irate ultramarine boistinker

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Salmon racy stage

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Vermilion turdskin

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Bronze cruise ship

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Bronze cruise ship

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Bronze cruise ship

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: domesticated awkward kitchen multi-billionaire

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: onyx irradiated dilemma

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: sinister aqua rigor

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Salmon racy stage

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: bespoke persian

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: rambunctious stimulating senate internal respiration

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: mischievous mental disorder stag film

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: comical haunted graveyard

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: bespoke persian

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Dull Boyish Native

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: high-end thirsty principal's office pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: bearded zippy parlour

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: aggressive forum jap

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Community Account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Multi-colored dog poop

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Bipolar excitant telephone jew

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Turquoise dysfunction

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Bipolar excitant telephone jew

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Salmon racy stage

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Vermilion turdskin

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Titillating Cream Coffee Pot Affirmative Action

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Bipolar excitant telephone jew

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Odious dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: alcoholic ruby candlestick maker friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Turquoise dysfunction

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Vermilion turdskin

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Cracking Puce Hominid Deer Antler

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Salmon racy stage

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: bearded zippy parlour

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Pink address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Salmon racy stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)