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I have the 14” M3 pro model and I agree.
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Date: July 6th, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: Twisted Casino

Only the oafish 16" models have proper cooling designs. The 14-inch models have fans but they're not enough to keep the CPU with tolerable limits. Run LLMs or something and it's going to spike to 95C and throttle down to 1.8ghz. People are paying $2000-$5000 for laptops full of CPUs that throttle 24/7, and the only reason they don't notice is because they never use the computer to do shit except email.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076031)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 11:50 AM
Author: Hideous awkward sanctuary

I have the 14” M3 pro model and I agree.

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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

Flip it on Swappa and buy a 16" (also on Swappa)

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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:28 PM
Author: charismatic wagecucks bbw

why are you running LLMs locally

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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

Deepseek is the only cloud AI I trust with my data. I would never let an American company read my prompts, especially when I'm doing image generation. Gemma 12b is 180 for legal writing so I don't need the cloud for that, and ljl@ any lawyer sharing sensitive info with a cloud computer for any reason.

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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:32 PM
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the problem isn't the MacBook; the problem is that you're a lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076115)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

The problem is you can't use more than 8gb of RAM without your Macbook overheating, and Apple lets people buy Macbooks with up to 128gb. You'll be in a nursing home before it gets done chewing through half that RAM because it has to throttle to 1/3 its rated speed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076117)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: charismatic wagecucks bbw

my work MacBook Pro (14") typically uses around 14+ GB of RAM without issue. there's more to running LLMs than RAM

plus it's a fucking laptop. it's not a watercooled vapor chamber cryogenic desktop that can be overclocked without issue. you bought the wrong computer for running anything beyond a modest LLM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076161)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:20 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

There really isn't much more to running LLMs than RAM. The RAM needs to be soldered onto thick ass lanes to the CPU/GPU/NPU/whatever, and you don't want to do it on an old Skylake Xeon, but really is just about RAM. Unfortunately, even with TSMC 3nm silcon Apple struggles to keep these chips cool. Memory lanes be thicc as fukkk, but it doesn't matter because the cooling sucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076875)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: Talking arousing base

why on earth would you be paranoid about storing shit on the cloud then go with deepseek of all options

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076207)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:23 PM
Author: ocher bearded corn cake french chef

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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

That makes no sense. If anyone should fear the Chinese government, it's Chinese people. lol@ your paranoia (unless you're Chinese, in which case your paranoia is justified).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076897)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: ocher bearded corn cake french chef

You’re a CCP plant and you hate America. Now STFU before I get a little “rapey”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076925)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

Why don't you think I'm Indian?

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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

Deepseek has connections to academic journals and will submit papers for peer review if you give it permission and register as an author. It will help you draft the article until you think it's fit for publication, then it will submit it tell you how long peer review takes (up to six weeks, it told someone I know). China is helping to disseminate knowledge while US tech companies sell your home address to Mossad. Faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076886)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: Talking arousing base

lmao

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Date: July 6th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

I have a transcript of the whole convo. See if you can guess what they're discussing:

https://i.imgur.com/TVgXWRT.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076985)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: ocher bearded corn cake french chef

lol chink

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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:25 PM
Author: beady-eyed corner

Why don't you just set up an AWS instance to do this shit and use any old cheap ass laptop to login to it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076892)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

They should be sued over this claim:

"M4 Max supports up to 128GB of fast unified memory and up to 546GB/s of memory bandwidth, which is 4x the bandwidth of the latest AI PC chip.3 This allows developers to easily interact with large language models that have nearly 200 billion parameters."

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-introduces-m4-pro-and-m4-max/

Literally, just buy a 14" MBP M4 Max with the full 128gb, load a model with 175 billion parameters and watch it run slower than a Ryzen AI minipc. "Easily interact with" my ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076920)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: slimy den fat ankles

Have the newest version. No issue with this.

I’m always on 3 screens and running massive spreadsheets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076930)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

Did you get the M4 Pro or the Max? The Max is the one that's throttling all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076934)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: slimy den fat ankles

M4 Pro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49076936)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 11:46 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

Safe move. The M4 Max is the one that shits the bed. If M4 Pros start overheating it's over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49077821)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Fuchsia Theatre Puppy

Why would someone get a 14” pro over a 15” air? The only reason I got a pro was for 16”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49077204)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 11:49 PM
Author: Twisted Casino

You can only get the air with the base M4 processor. If you want the M4 Pro or the M4 Max, you have to get the Macbook Pro.

There's also an M4 Ultra that RIPS, but you can only get it in a studio Mac, and you may as well get a used M2 Ultra or even an M1. I believe M1 Ultras still beat M4 Pros at a lot of tasks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49077826)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 12:26 AM
Author: aromatic hunting ground center

I had to get a 14" m4 MacBook Pro replaced because the aluminum case holding the screen somehow bent, while the screen remained perfectly fine, preventing it from closing shut flat.

Was the weirdest fucking thing ever and no idea how it happened or how metal casing permanently got bent without any other exterior damage or impact to the screen. The guy at Microcenter was completely baffled

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49077916)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 12:26 AM
Author: Twisted Casino

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If it was a swollen battery I'm sure the tech would have caught it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746690&forum_id=2#49077919)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 12:46 AM
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