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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Pearl center toilet seat
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
provocative submissive corn cake
  12/16/25
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Pearl center toilet seat
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Indigo business firm
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
provocative submissive corn cake
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Indigo business firm
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
provocative submissive corn cake
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Indigo business firm
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Pearl center toilet seat
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
provocative submissive corn cake
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Indigo business firm
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
provocative submissive corn cake
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Indigo business firm
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Pearl center toilet seat
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provocative submissive corn cake
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
primrose piazza legend
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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primrose piazza legend
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
excitant trailer park
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
provocative submissive corn cake
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
vermilion site
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
provocative submissive corn cake
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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Pearl center toilet seat
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i love scholarship
Glassy principal's office yarmulke
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
frum friendly grandma
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Glassy principal's office yarmulke
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Pearl center toilet seat
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Pearl center toilet seat
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Indigo business firm
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Razzle lettuce
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Pearl center toilet seat



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: provocative submissive corn cake

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Pearl center toilet seat

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Indigo business firm

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: provocative submissive corn cake

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Indigo business firm

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: provocative submissive corn cake

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Indigo business firm

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Pearl center toilet seat

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: provocative submissive corn cake

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Indigo business firm

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: provocative submissive corn cake

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Indigo business firm

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Pearl center toilet seat



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: provocative submissive corn cake



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: primrose piazza legend

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: provocative submissive corn cake

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: primrose piazza legend



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: excitant trailer park

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: provocative submissive corn cake

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: vermilion site

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: provocative submissive corn cake

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: hairless address boiling water

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: provocative submissive corn cake



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Pearl center toilet seat



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Glassy principal's office yarmulke

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: frum friendly grandma

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Glassy principal's office yarmulke



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Indigo business firm

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Razzle lettuce

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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