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Wife Is People Mgr @ F500. Her Division Fired 1.5% & Her Staff Are Freaking Out
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Date: October 30th, 2025 10:56 AM Author: Carmine motley old irish cottage toaster the c-level officer who runs her division came into his role from outside the company 6 months ago, and announced a "reduction in force" meaning they fired 70 people out of about 4500 in the division, which amounts to 1.5%.
it's cryptic why, but it seems to my wife that the new c-level officer is just cleaning house and getting rid of some real dead weight. he's been doing some other org changes too.
there wasn't a company level firing, and the head said he wasn't asked to do this by the CEO. he said it's his own decision and he's trying to optimize.
seems relatively innocuous to me, but people under my wife are freaking the fuck out.
i guess they hear all the other shit in the media about amazon and ups firing 10% of their workforce. |
Date: October 30th, 2025 11:05 AM Author: saffron church Is the new c-level Indian? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387619) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:08 AM Author: Carmine motley old irish cottage toaster no, white goy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387639) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:06 AM Author: bull headed trailer park party of the first part DESCRIBE her staff retreat at Club Mandingo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387624) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:08 AM Author: concupiscible spruce den persian why wouldnt they freak out. theyre about to be unemployed. no more chuck e cheese for the kids on the weekends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387634) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:09 AM Author: Carmine motley old irish cottage toaster 1.5% is a small number, and it seems like a cleaning house of the most useless employees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387643) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:10 AM Author: concupiscible spruce den persian like your wife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387648) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:12 AM Author: Carmine motley old irish cottage toaster she's a people manager. this affected 95% individual contributors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387661) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:22 AM Author: Awkward emerald meetinghouse useless brakes this has been debunked by AI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387687) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:29 AM Author: Histrionic Crawly Bawdyhouse “People managers” do less and cost more than ICs. Your wife is next (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387700) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:33 AM Author: Carmine motley old irish cottage toaster someone needs to manage the ICs. if they fired all the ICs under her, sure, they would fire her bc there's nobody for her to manage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387710) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:38 AM Author: Histrionic Crawly Bawdyhouse LJL no one in white collar work is really necessary anymore, especially management. Great sales people and engineers are the only ones companies absolutely need and even these types are beginning to lose job security. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387731) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:53 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., we're far away from that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387774) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2025 1:17 PM Author: The Buzz Aldrin Spacelaw Fellowship What about the lawyers?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49397927) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 12:10 PM Author: Amateur Millennial Butt Porn Someone has to do the firing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387813) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:17 AM Author: Tripping Corner a lot of well-run, profitable, old-school companies do not do layoffs or RIFs and only fire specific individuals for poor performance. they take pride in never doing layoffs and providing long-term stability. stack ranking and firing the bottom 5 or 10% came out of jack welch at GE (along with a lot of other bullshit) and has been adopted at tech companies.
old school companies in more cyclical industries or facing secular decline do, of course, conduct layoffs. so if wife's company is relatively healthy and hasn't done layoffs in the past, it's a bad sign that the company is allowing its culture to change. so employees are justifiably freaking out. |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:36 AM Author: Carmine motley old irish cottage toaster the weird thing is that this is being called a RIF, when it seems to my wife and i that this is actually just shitcanning the very bottom of the barrel for poor performance. it's interesting that they're calling it a RIF. is there reason they wouldnt want to say we looked everyone and decided to get rid of the most useless 1.5% in this org? is that worse for morale than just saying it's a RIF and freaking everyone out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387720) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:42 AM Author: Darnell the difficult thing is that if you try to do a stealth RIF over several months (e.g. fire 15 people per month for 5 months), that can freak people out too. everyone starts realizing people are being let go and everyone except the highest performers start to wonder, "am i next?" and that can FUCK morale.
ripping off the band-aid all at once is sometimes considered preferable. |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:55 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., i get the ripping off the band aid. why not just come out and say that we got rid of the bottom of the barrel?
if you read between the lines, it's pretty obvious that's the case. they didnt say this was random and we needed to fill a quota. they said they took a look at everything and decided this is a good way to optimize. |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:55 AM Author: .,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,.. are you retarded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387780) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 12:11 PM Author: Amateur Millennial Butt Porn It’s large enough she is tripping various federal laws, so it’s a RIF. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387815) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 12:13 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., ah good point. not the WARN act! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387822) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 4:22 PM Author: Amateur Millennial Butt Porn WARN Act could be one of them, but there are a lot of particulars about when it applies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49388505) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 12:12 PM Author: Amateur Millennial Butt Porn That’s called a RIFRO - Reduction in Force Retards Only (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387817) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 12:13 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387823) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:18 AM Author: Awkward emerald meetinghouse useless brakes enjoy the H1Bs, my friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387675) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:19 AM Author: saffron church You know the thing with OP's wife, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387678) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 11:33 AM Author: Carmine motley old irish cottage toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387712) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 12:02 PM Author: theranchman oh wow the professed pedo heeb is so desperate for attention he plays into the fact that his wife LIERALLY fucked indians
were they jewish ? doesnt that make her unclean? |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 12:06 PM Author: Amateur Millennial Butt Porn 1.5 is nothing. Rule of thumb is <10 percent is cleaning out low performers and >15 percent is real pain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49387806) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:12 AM Author: SneakersSO Layoffs come in waves or "rounds" a lot of the time. Since there is no science behind any of it, they just cut and then wait and see what happens, like if something Broke. Remember after 9/11 when we thought they might do the Same Thing a month later? If we knew for a fact it would be one and done then it'd be less distressing. |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:33 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., your capitalization is odd, obnoxious and mentally ill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389789) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:35 AM Author: SneakersSO You sound Liberal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389792) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:22 AM Author: Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity Not uncommon to do a wave like this and see how many people take other job offers so they don’t have to force people into layoffs. Attrition models are currently messed up because people are clinging to sinecures. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389779) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:35 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., but why would other people leave? first, there's nowhere to go; hard to get another f500 sinecure. second, what would this would make people think their job is in jeopardy? the c-level officer kept said they'll "continue to optimize" and "look for efficiencies" -- is that enough to scare everyone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389793) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:30 AM Author: AZNgirl severing Dad's Dick to Mourn Dick Cheney ur wife's bloody benchod jerb cld be done in a GCC in bengaluru, all dat shit is goin to india u birdshits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389786) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:34 AM Author: ,..,,,,,,....,,,..., If your managers are so far out of touch that they do true layoffs like oh we just fired everyone hired in the last year or oh we cut 10% from areas where the whole team was performing and necessary and next year we’ll be hiring for the same roles - find a new job.
But yeah 1.5% is probably all low performers and some are so bad that the org runs better simply by removing them. Like junior guy who makes mistakes that require multiple people to fix, middle manager who pocket vetoes good ideas, demoralizes staff and wastes boss’s time, regional or divisional boss who is retired and still drawing a paycheck. |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:38 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., your last statement is apt. wife saw the list, and there's one mid/senior level boss on the list (it's vast majority low/mid level ICs) -- and it's an old guy who was planning on retiring soon anyway. probably heard this was coming and offered himself up as a good way for him to get severance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389796) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:49 AM Author: chad gundam (🧐) The fuck is a "people manager"? As opposed to a cat manager? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389812) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:55 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., ur apparently not in the corp world, and i didnt know this either from lol firm life, but it's a common term.
people manager means you're actually someone's formal manager for HR purposes (reviews, salary increases, approving time off, etc).
in the corp world, there's all sorts of managers -- project managers, program managers, etc. |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:59 AM Author: chad gundam (🧐) Yeah I'm not a lawyer but our company isn't bloated enough to have "people manager"s. Sounds like it's just an excuse to keep a division around instead of slimming down and only have people "manage" who they directly work with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389835) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 9:10 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., Everyone besides the CEO has a people manager. Someone can be a people manager and also do other things, including being other types of managers or doing IC work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389865) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 10:50 AM Author: .,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,.. it's a term for anyone who has direct reports you dipshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49390083) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 10:58 AM Author: chad gundam (🧐) People who do nothing but manage direct reports are the most useless type of managers and many companies have moved away from it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49390104) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 12:59 PM Author: .,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,.. yes many F500s just have a single CEO and 50,000 analysts directly reporting to them. that is just efficiency at work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49390410) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 1:00 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., are u stupid or just have poor rc? this has been explained by several people. someone who manages direct reports may also do other things besides manage direct reports, but they're still people managers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49390414) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 9:07 AM Author: SneakersSO And the best of all — Product Managers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389854) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 9:13 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., Again, someone can presumably be both a project manager and a people manager. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791634&forum_id=2Firm#49389873) |
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Date: October 31st, 2025 9:15 AM Author: Amateur Millennial Butt Porn It’s no worse than “Human Resources”
Yeah, we’re gonna mine these motherfuckers |