It has continued. I've realized that many many chicks on here only check their messages once a week at best, sometimes longer. As a result the quality of potential candidates has been improving.

Again I've been trying to filter out the obvious whores and/or strippers for the time being.

So far I have a meet up scheduled Thurs with the tatooed girl who was previously posted. https://ibb.co/nnxwGXm

She is married but very clearly has some sort of kink for something like this.

Currently talking to this girl: https://ibb.co/vJH6cVQ

Who wants to do overnights but at $1500 which is steep for this shit but she's an hr away and by far one of the hotter chicks on here. https://ibb.co/1Lc58Hp

Casually talking to several other very hot chicks who I seem very interested based on pics and personality alone so while we haven't talked about money, all of them are routinely texting me throughout the day. Obviously they all want to be paid, but it does seem that if you're decent looking with a decent personality, that the number is very flexible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549766)

HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48554341)

I think $500 is the maximum for any kind of meetup of whatever duration

Don't think "top 10%"

You don't want the best one, you want the right one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549842)

Ultimately you want a girl who is basically decent and conscientious as weird as that sounds

I always gave them money upfront

If they flaked then great, saved me from getting scammed or robbed etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549861)

Overnight thing is interesting ... my sugar baby has pushed for that and I said no! Probably makes them feel like less of a whore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549866)

I will not be in the intermountain west until this week. After that I will be out there extremely frequently and should have adequate updates at that time.

Just trying to post some content for my bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549806)

hot tatted up zoomers will suck and fuck you with reckless abandon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549817)

what's the zoomer charging?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549827)

She's super tan, thin and i like the zoomer tattoos so i offered her 400-500 and plan on paying her 5 the first time and then renegotiating future meet ups assuming we're compatible to a significantly lower rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549846)

yes, being horny is exactly the reason why someone would do something like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549837)

I say no to all of it and don't even engage. I tend to do flirty banter and not much beyond that. Chicks who are interested tend to do more reaching out then the obvious pros, bots or jail house entrapment bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549856)

My wife and I have been here a long time and are fairly connected so we know tons of these chicks. I would say at least 25% are straight up on the app and openly talk about it, Another 20% are probably on there under different names and are just slightly more incognito but all the signs are still there... Expensive hotels in far off locations with only photos of them and no real job or significant income that would allow for that.

My wife has even commented "like wow it seems like every girl who's single now is on only fans or fucking rich guys for money/vacations"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549885)

"so there's an app where you can pay women to be your sugar baby"

"Oh wow, they must be hot young things, right?"

"I'm meeting up with a tattooed married woman"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549786)

now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48554346)

I suspect you'd have more options in socal or nyc if you were looking to do this. However, its tough for me to do in SoCal given that I'm married and inevitably there would be numerous mutual acquaintances with my wife or something that would inevitably expose me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549831)

How common is sexting and nudes in this environment?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549813)

If you just want to meet with a girl once or infrequently, probably can't demand nudes as effectively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549833)

When I tried in NYC it was 60% strippers/run through hookers, 30% black guys in jail trying to entrap you and maybe 10% real chicks

Had one uni student who straight up told me she was hooked on my money and would do anything to keep me

Was paying her $500 per visit w no time limit

She was so hot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549824)

Some very clearly are on here much more than others. For ex the married chick hasn't even logged on aside from our message exchange since we've switched to text.

Others are very clearly on there every single day, multiple times per day and are more than likely "career girls". They also tend to jump to the chase much quicker.

I've largely been excluding WOCs primarily because of safety reasons. chicks with multiple hair colors, tons of tatoos, ultra ultra skinny, and or otherwise look to be strippers or on drugs i also exclude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549840)

Were you able to negotiate down a lower ongoing rate and if so pls EXPLAIN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549921)

Yeah I could go and get a hooker, but the quality to price is much lower, i would suspect the enthusiasm would be more fake and contrived and finally im not interested in dealing with pimps or even career hookers knowing where im living.

At least on SA there's some element of dating in that they have to look at your photos and find you somewhat attractive or interesting, there's usually some back and forth banter to decide whether you guys would actually connect, etc.

Much more similar to tinder, just wih the algorithm reversed since im willing to pay 300-600 per meet up which is very little in the scheme of things. Gf's, much like wives, become increasingly expensive as life goes on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549909)

This seems like a much simpler, easier outlet and the money is effectively a rounding error, particularly in comparison to how much my wife costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549895)

I have run the numbers of the cost of a divorce, I have actively intiated steps toward divorce in the past during other relationships, and I keep coming back, but not without causing significant emotional pain to my spouse.

The last of which she said, look if its just sex, i dont really care what you do, but if you love this girl i guess you need to try it and figure out if that's what you want. That led to me going on a 6 month spree just a few steps below zurich before realizing the chick i had left her for was unstable and an alcoholic.

Therefore, yes fucking mid 20 yr olds on seeking is a healthier solution for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549917)

We are however a great team, we're both very driven, extremely motivated, similar senses of humor, but sexually she's never really met my needs in a whole host of ways. So if i could go back 10 or so years would I have gotten married to her? No... But I wouldn't have gotten married to anyone.

Now, for the reasons mentioned above I'm somewhat stuck and there's no good objective reason to leave and the financial cost would be devastating as we both came from utterly nothing and I built a very successful business that she has played a non insignificant role in as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549937)

In one the divorce has little material impact. In the other the impact is financially semi-catastrophic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549970)

If I get a divorce they will look at the length of marriage... over 10 years, they will look at my wife's contribution... not insignificant, they will look at my wife's earnings using what she has made the past 5+ years... an insignificant amount of money, they will look at all the school and things I did while she worked under the guise that she supported me during school (not the case but that's what the court will see).

All of that means I would owe her more than half. The 2 million dollar home we own outright would be hers. Then I would need to buy her out of a business generating 1-2 mil per year which would be valued out using a 10x profit model, meaning it would cost me at least 3 million to buy her out PLUS ongoing alimony at a standard of living she's accustomed to.

All of that combined means that in the event of a divorce 1) I'd likely need to lay off employees, laying off employees would result in me having to scale down my business, which in turn would mean i'd make less money to buy her out and pay for her alimony.

My standard of living would take a huge hit, I'd go to likely living in a shitty 1 bdrm apartment, I would not be able to take off to the mountains for 3 months a year, I would not be able to take nice vacations, I would not be able to bang seeking arrangement whores with reckless abandon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550131)

I'm sure the court wouldn't split up your business to the point where you couldn't make enough money to maintain her lifestyle anymore. That seems insane. They would really have to hate you. I think you're imagining the absolute worst, like the court just seizes a profitable business and condemns you to poverty? I doubt that. You can prove your business is growing they will see that is the way you generate income to pay her off. That would be really nutty if the court destroyed your ability to repay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550149)

Now how am I going to come up with a 40k alimony payment every month friend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550199)

why are you ok with him fucking other people while married so long as they don't live under the same roof? i thought your issue was about it being sinful. but if that's not it, it's not immoral if she consents, there aren't kids involved, and he's doing it when he would be away from home anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549962)

It's immoral to have a formal commitment to someone and cheat on them regardless if they say, "oh, it's totally fine I don't care." Sure, it's a free country and it's impossible for society to police this stuff. But I have every right to look down on it. I guess it "just works" for some people and their individual situations but I still think it's gay as fuck.

A formal separation at least begins the process of divorce even if it takes a long time to hash out the financial ramifications with the court. Everyone knows that Arnold and Maria ended their relationship back when he got caught screwing the maid and moved out even though it took ages to finalize the divorce. No one said Arnold was an immoral faggot for fucking other women post separation while waiting 10 years for the ink to dry. Much better than "just do whores" OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549973)

Also made this thread so others could enjoy the content not because im seeking board approval. I'm an extremely infrequent poster and often go weeks or months at a time without even checking the site. I couldn't care less what the general xoxo consensus is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549985)

I have no kids, and there is no god or afterlife. I'll enjoy my wealth and the world in which we live. I couldn't give a fuck less about the moral decay of this country when the American system is solely focused on making the billionaire class richer at the expense of quite literally everyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550143)

it's not cheating if there is actual consent. and the "formal agreement" exists even if you're separated, so i don't understand why you're ok with sex outside the marriage in that case but not here. i think you have a myopic view that because you cannot fathom being in a relationship where a partner is permitted to have sex with others that no one would permit it. but it's pretty common.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48549996)

i don't think this is good because it's sinful and also don't think it's good for society. but that doesn't make it immoral or cheating. i feel the same way about divorce too. i'm just trying to reconcile your position here, but you're jumping right into imagining i'm advocating for some hedonistic free love society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550065)

i think what you meant to say is "i don't think married people fucking others is a good thing regardless of whether they are ok with it." which is fine. but that has nothing to do with what you said to justify it. you can just say "i think it's degenerate and bad for society for people to have sex with others while married, even if it's secret and there is consent."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550115)

"It's immoral to have a formal commitment to someone and cheat on them regardless if they say, "oh, it's totally fine I don't care."

formal commitment = marriage. the marriage still persists during separation. therefore, fucking while separated would still be immoral under your first argument.

what your position actually seems to be is "it's always immoral to have sex with others while in a relationship." and that a separation is sufficient to terminate the relationship. but that has nothing to do with the "formal commitment" part. because to you the actual commitment, such as getting married intending for it to be open, or altering the actual commitment to permit it later, is immoral.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550168)

you think that me trying to tease out your logic must mean i'm arguing against it and are addressing arguments you think i have in my head, but what i was asking was narrow and simple, and not addressed here. and it can't be addressed because it's not logically reconcilable, which i why i said "i think what you meant was..."

your imagination of the legal significance and purpose of separation is off. it's not "permitted" it's required in many states and historically. and the purpose is to *encourage* reconciliation, which doesn't require any formalized recommitment. it's a hurdle that's required *before* a divorce is initiated in some states, not an independent formal legal relationship status. i think you may be confused because you think i'm prodding you about the ethics, but it was really just the "formal commitment" part, because that formal commitment is not changed by separation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550255)

you: if you X while A it's immoral. you have to at least B to X morally.

me: but A always still exists during B.

X = having sex with someone who isn't your wife

A = marriage

B = separation

***

the FORMAL COMMITMENT still exists during separation. and you've said that the ACTUAL COMMITMENT (e.g. consenting to an open relationship) doesn't matter, it's always immoral during the FORMAL COMMITMENT. but that doesn't logically follow, because the FORMAL COMMITMENT still exists during separation. so your position can only be that what you meant by FORMAL COMMITMENT is a RELATIONSHIP regardless of the FORMAL COMMITMENT status, which you think is always immoral to have sex outside of regardless of the ACTUAL COMMITMENT between the parties.

i've invited you explain where i'm wrong here in your logic but you keep screeding past it and now are just slinging adhoms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550414)

i see that

"No one cares about the formal commitment in the legal sense."

YOU ARE THE ONE THAT RELIED ON THE "FORMAL COMMITMENT" AND THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE JUST BEEN ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN YOUR REASONING

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550520)

WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550835)

I've had several real mistresses... the problem is I'm not paying them so i get convinced we're in love with each other. The transactional nature of SA makes it much easier for all parties to have healthy separation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48550190)

Started with condoms, the whole time of which she was moaning in my ear how much she couldn't wait to feel my uncovered dick inside of her. After about 30 mins of fucking she took the condom off under the pretense of wanting to blow me more (of which she was incredibly good at) and then promptly hopped on it while moaning in my ear how irresponsible it was until I was like no worries i just had a vasectomy.

To which she started riding my cock with increasing fury and begging me to cum inside her.

Was a truly 180 experience for all involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48565587)

https://ibb.co/B6Z2QNW

https://ibb.co/X2R71Vh

https://ibb.co/fxpdSmg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48553477)

Says weed and water are her jam so I guess we'll get stoned as shit and see what happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48556073)

Kinda interested in this chick who wants 300-400 per meet "but obviously I don't expect that if we're going out to dinner or something first!" She's ukrainian but has been in the us since age 2.

https://ibb.co/8gd0GsJ

https://ibb.co/nkJWR03

She wants to meet up either tmw or fri, whatever works for me. Can confirm she's definitely NOT FAT but does have a tattoo between her tits and enjoys pole dancing (but not a stripper). I don't mind chicks like that as opposed to many on here who apparently want a 18 yr old mormon virgin and the ppm is hard to beat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48555857)

https://ibb.co/nCW7dfg

She has also self identified as "slim" and I feel like most chicks who are anything other than thin or at least thin-average mark themselves as "athletic" although some stripper/hooker and/or bodybuilder type chicks mark themselves as athletic too. Fats mark themselves as curvy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48557467)

Then she goes "I should ask this before hand, will you be paying me tonight. Just wondering because it is a bit of a drive for me."

I respond "i mean... i guess it sorta depends, if it's a m&g and things go well, and we go from there, yeah, if we show up have a drink and realize not a good fit then i'll pay for your drink and i guess i can throw you some gas money. But happy to jump on a video call before hand to prove I'm a real person."

Respond: "It seems like you are looking for more of an escort, so unfortunately I am going to pass."

LJL what the fuck do you think you are doing on this fucking site. And she thinks I'm gonna pay her 300-400 for a fucking nice to meet you drink?

I'm gonna start being ruthless with these whores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48558726)

https://www.poerkan.com/product/zang-mi-shen-dan-male-energy-natural-supplement/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48557320)

Date: March 11th, 2025 10:34 PM

Author: backroom poasting couch

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5371530&forum_id=2#48739042

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5663463&forum_id=2Firm#48739101)