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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Razzle puppy
  12/16/25
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Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
awkward alcoholic deer antler
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Razzle puppy
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
awkward alcoholic deer antler
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Razzle puppy
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
awkward alcoholic deer antler
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Razzle puppy
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
awkward alcoholic deer antler
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Razzle puppy
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
awkward alcoholic deer antler
  12/17/25
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Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action
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Razzle puppy
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Fragrant feces
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Razzle puppy
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Fragrant feces
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
lascivious institution personal credit line
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Razzle puppy
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Pearl Locus
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Razzle puppy
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
topaz regret voyeur
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Razzle puppy
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Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action
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i love scholarship
Glittery sticky cuck
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
violet lodge degenerate
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Razzle puppy
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Glittery sticky cuck
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Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action
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Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
awkward alcoholic deer antler
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
histrionic area
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Razzle puppy

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: awkward alcoholic deer antler

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Razzle puppy

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: awkward alcoholic deer antler

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Razzle puppy

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: awkward alcoholic deer antler

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Razzle puppy

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: awkward alcoholic deer antler

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Razzle puppy

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: awkward alcoholic deer antler

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Razzle puppy



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Fragrant feces

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Razzle puppy

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Fragrant feces



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: lascivious institution personal credit line

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Razzle puppy

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Pearl Locus

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Razzle puppy

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: topaz regret voyeur

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Razzle puppy



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Federal Trailer Park Affirmative Action



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Glittery sticky cuck

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: violet lodge degenerate

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Razzle puppy



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Glittery sticky cuck



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: awkward alcoholic deer antler

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: histrionic area

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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