My subjective, slightly conspiracy-laden breakdown of Jews & Zionism
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Date: April 8th, 2026 11:45 PM Author: oomox
Obviously I'm saying a few different things here so feel free to address any part you have thoughts on. I've only been learning about this for about two years so be gentle when correcting me if I got anything wrong.
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Date: April 8th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: oomox
Don't worry, I know you know that only a subset of Jews are demonic ethnosupremacist genocidaires.
Before I talk about the Zio motivations/whether Zionism is connected to Frankism: What do you think about my theory that blood libel against rabbinic Jews (e.g. Lwów disputation) contributed to antisemitic undercurrents that helped the Holocaust take off? I'm not saying that this stuff was a large part of what motivated Hitler himself, but it seems plausible that Frankist deception planted a bunch of seeds in people's minds about Jews being pedo rapists and ritual murderers of Christians, which spread and grew over generations and ultimately helped Hitler's message catch on.
As far as what makes Zios act the way they act... of course there are tiers of Zionism. Before I knew how "Israel" was formed, even I was like, "oh yeah it kinda makes sense for Jews to have their own country." And as I'm sure you know, most synagogues and Sunday schools conveniently leave the Nakba out of their curricula. My mom told me that she was told that it was "a land without people for a people without a land." She was taught Hebrew songs about how it was a barren, empty desert and the Jews turned it into a fertile, thriving home. So there are a lot of people of every religion who could be considered Zionists in the sense of, like, they don't even know that there were already 700,000 people in Palestine, so they have no issue with a country being carved out for Jews after the Holocaust. People who feel that way are misled, not evil.
Then there are people who know how "Israel" was founded and are like, "that was wrong but they're there now sooo I guess it's a Jewish state now 🤷" kinda like how most people feel about America I guess. Not an explicitly evil category either.
Finally, there are the people who believe in the Greater Israel Project. They think Israel should just keep expanding by murdering and displacing everyone around them. And on the same level are the people who originally supported the founding of Israel, which obviously also involved a lot of murder and displacement lol. This camp is firmly evil and THIS is the group that I theorize descended from/is still tied to Frankism.
So that's just breaking down different types of Zionists in terms of what they think "Israel" should be in terms of its existence. But then there's the question of, what does a "Jewish state" even mean? And anyone who's OK with an ethnosupremacist apartheid state is in the evil category IMHO. If it's just like, "yeah let the Jews gather there in large numbers and if they happen to run the government because there are so many of them there, that's fine"... that's naive and disconnected from reality because it IS an ethnosupremacist apartheid state and there were already people there. But in theory, sure, let people of whatever group gather wherever they want.
Soooo that's my breakdown on different flavors of Zionism and how evil I think they are, lol. My theory about Frankists just applies to the ones who are a-OK with murdering and displacing people for an apartheid state. These people see ethnic Jews as racially superior and the "Chosen People" who can basically do whatever they want because... God said so? Even though most of them don't even believe in God?
Personally I don't think, like, Ashkenazi Jews should all be kicked back to Europe or whatever. I just want everyone to have equal rights and for Zios to stop fucking killing innocent people and stealing land :(
( http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855180&forum_id=2#49805669 )
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Date: April 9th, 2026 2:25 PM Author: woman having existential crisis
I'm 69 IQ and there's no way I'm reading all that shit
Fuck Jews and fuck kikes imho
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Date: April 9th, 2026 2:43 PM
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the 'zionism' thing is really a red herring.
people in the West are less concerned with picking apart the particulars of Zionism than they are with the mafia-like behavior of Jews in white western countries -- their organized subversion of politics/media/finance, their obvious intention to genocide/displace whites, their bizarre stated grudge against 'Rome'/'Edom,' and so on.
Jews were not booted out of 109 countries because of 'Zionism' or whatever. they were booted out because they operate as a hostile state within a state, an ethno-mafia, whose intention has been, since the Bolsheviks, to dominate and destroy white populations on industrial scale.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2Firm#49806775) |
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:00 PM Author: Richard Ames
Yes. "Zionism" is just what is relatively "allowed" in the mainstream and mainstream-adjacent discourse. The actual issue is the behavior of elite jews. Particularly because they tend to work in "functional" industries that cut across huge swathes of society. e.g.) finance, law, media. They aren't engineers working on producing better widgets. So they wedge into every other industry through their influence on finance, law, and media.
What's more, they are FAR more liberal on social issues than the average American. Particularly compared to the average white American (who actually creates the majority of value in society from a production and tax standpoint.) So this puts them at odds with the majority.
That, and the coordinate much more closely than white people at large. They behave like The Mafia, but they do so within legal entities. So their behavior is often "legal," or at least all illegalities move through the court system (which they also have undue influence over.)
Very sick!!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2Firm#49806811) |
Date: April 9th, 2026 2:54 PM Author: '"'"'"''"
Jew here. Not gonna read all that but I'll give you my personal take.
I am American first and support Israel like I would any other ally. Yes, they are an ally. We get a ton of military tech and intelligence from them. I also think Islam is a danger to the West, so it's nice to see someone actually standing up to it.
No, our interests aren't always aligned, and when they're not, America should always come first. No question.
Even though I support Israel I think it's cringey when politicans act like they can do no wrong and like they're an unassailable ally. We should be able to ally with Israel but also criticize it when our interests aren't aligned just like we would with the UK or Canada.
I don't care how Israel was founded. Might makes right. America was founded the same way. The fixation on indigenous populations is stupid and the same logic would dictate that America should be dismantled and returned to native tribes. Fuck that shit.
I reject the idea of dual loyality or that Israel is the Jewish "homeland" for the same reason. Judaism is a religion. Yes, Jews lived in Israel in 2,000 BC. My family has been in America for many generations. I am fully American and Israel isn't my homeland any more than Ireland is some 5th generation American McDonnell's homeland.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2Firm#49806799)
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:05 PM Author: '"'"'"''"
180 idea.
But personally I have no desire to ever leave. I've traveled enough to know that America is better than any of these other shitholes. We mistake "managed decline" for "quaint" in most of Europe.
Good to visit, though.
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:15 PM Author: oomox
I think that treating Israel as an ally similar to the UK or Canada – we work together but they're not beyond reproach – is OK in theory. But if the UK or Canada had done as much to fuck us over as Israel, I don't think we'd still be allies. See: all the shit we've done in the Middle East on their behalf, the U.S.S. Liberty, the Americans they've killed in the West Bank, 9/11...
And of course the asymmetrical financial relationship. They have universal healthcare, free education, and a budget surplus. Why the fuck are we sending them money and paying for their defense? We don't have any of this shit and are trillions in debt.
And on top of that, if we really wann be Team America World Police (personally I am an isolationist) why do we let Israel commit war crimes with impunity?!
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Date: April 9th, 2026 3:22 PM Author: the word envy ceasing to exist (gunneratttt)
i wouldnt even consider the first two groups zionist in the way zionist is used today. it would be like saying i believe in manifest destiny because i don't think the western states should be dissolved.
the state of israel already exists. zionism was a movement for creating the state of israel today. when i think of zionist today i think of an advocate that resources should be spent maintaining or expanding the state of israel. likewise, i when i see anti-zionist i think of someone who thinks israel should not exist. i don't think that includes very many people outside of the middle east except muslim immigrants and neo-nazis. when i say im an anti-zionist im not saying i think israel should be destroyed, but that we shouldn't be spending our resources ensuring it remains.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5855250&forum_id=2Firm#49806860) |
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