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Did PS2 truly win the gen in the western consciousness
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Date: August 16th, 2024 12:54 PM Author: laughsome mustard sanctuary DVDs and GTA games sort of carried it and those were on Xbox. Almost everything western was on Xbox. PS2 had thousands of games but the good Japanese ones didn't really catch on here. And then 360 won the following gen in the West which shows how popular the original Xbox was with those who had it. I feel that this was another retroactively Lost Gen for Sony, along with the PS1 with the disastrous release of the Classic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#47972959) |
Date: August 16th, 2024 2:51 PM Author: laughsome mustard sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#47973405) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: laughsome mustard sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49505945) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 6:24 PM Author: cowgod (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49639481) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 6:27 PM Author: norwood ultra playstation won every gen starting with the original (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49639485) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 6:35 PM Author: cowgod But it retroactively lost the PS1 gen due to a lack of Games. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49639501) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 7:10 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49639604) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 7:05 PM Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump PS2 won handily. It had final fantasy, gran turismo, god of war, silent hill, numerous jrpgs, Twisted metal, metal gear, etc.
Xbox had halo,otogi, wreckless, JSRF, panzer dragoon, gunvalkrie, forza, prject gotham, and usually late ports of games that were a little crisper on xbox
You'd have to really, really like Sega to claim that xbox won |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 7:10 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower I love PS2, Xbox, GameCube, Dreamcast, PC gaming and Mac gaming from that era with equal enthuasiasm, many great memories from all whether playing alone, playing with others, watching older siblings play etc etc
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Date: February 1st, 2026 8:11 PM Author: Pumonymous You're forgetting GBA, DS, and PSP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49639725) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 8:12 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower I <3 men (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49639730) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 10:29 PM Author: Christoph Waltz stare (πΎπ£) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49640089) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 10:38 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower 18000000000000000000000000000000000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49640134) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 10:39 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower “I really like(d) it There…” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49640136) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 11:40 PM Author: Christoph Waltz stare (πΎπ£) outside of actual scores, FIFA 2002 had the best soundtrack imo, Gorillaz Tiësto et al I mean come on https://youtu.be/Sif9k1SBkBE? |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 11:42 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower Take me back πππ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49640278) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 11:22 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49640230) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 7:18 PM Author: cowgod The performance in the following Gen says a lot about how people felt about the prior Gen imo. I think Xbox westerners were hyped for 360 more than PS2 fans were for PS3. PS2 westerners who never finished a JRPG and hated Raiden were like, “uhh, anyone up for some SOCOM: US Navy Seals?” and played online lackadaisically with inept Losers, none of whom cared about what they were playing. PS2 had tons of Titles but lacked a killer western app. Westerners in 2006 were like, “uhhhh, Bluray? Let’s get hyped guys.” The PS3’s victory, btw, was the definition of a Pyrrhic victory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49639614) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 8:03 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49639697) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 2:36 PM Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump First of all, your post needs to be viewed in the context of the fact that you are claiming the PS2 somehow "lost" the gen despite being the best-selling console of all time. The PS2 more than doubled Xbox sales in the US (and the ratio is way worse if you consider worldwide sales). Everyone (westerners included) knew the PS2 won.
But let's extend the logic of your post out a bit. The Xbox One was a massive flop and Microsoft was completely Done Here after that...which says a lot about how people felt about the prior gen, according to you. That makes PS3 the clear winner over Xbox 360, which would also of course make PS2 the clear winner over Xbox.
We can see the culmination of this in the latest Xbox getting absolutely bodied by the PS5, getting outsold 2.7 to 1. I would argue that this is a representation of how people cumulatively felt about all prior gens, in aggregate. The sum total of everything Microsoft has done in gaming is that Microsoft is the loser. The bottom line is that gamers don't care about Xbox. They liked Microsoft bleeding money to provide a massively subsidized Gamepass, but that was never sustainable. As soon as the financial spigot was turned off and Microsoft asked gamers to pay something closer to the true cost of the service, gamers revolted. Microsoft's entry into gaming was a complete failure. Microsoft entirely lost the console war, and no case can be made that it was ever ahead.
This of course is the opposite of the PS3 having a "Pyrrhic victory," as you contend. How is it Pyrric when Sony went on to completely vanquish Microsoft in the following generations? |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 5:02 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower I would argue that this is a representation of how people cumulatively felt about all prior gens, in aggregate tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49642207) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 12:55 PM Author: goy orbison Silent Hill 2 was on ps2 and xbox So was MGS 2
Twisted metal on ps2 was mid
Gran turismo I'll give you, I bought a ps2 just for it
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 2:17 PM Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump the konami ports were so late that they were irrelevant. timing is everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641595) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 2:20 PM Author: goy orbison Never heard a single person say "silent hill" irl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641609) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 8:05 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower Flower circa 2009 is my all-time favorite video game FWIW. Crazy to think I'd never heard of Autoadmit.com at the time, come to think of it (2012 was the beginning for me IIRC) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49639699) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 9:22 PM Author: cowgod (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49639953) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 10:23 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49640076) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 12:07 PM Author: cowgod (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641221) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 12:21 PM Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( ) π§πΎπ€ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641256) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 3:16 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641823) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 12:37 PM Author: goy orbison No it had more rpgs and losery single player stuff but OG xbox was the normie console. Ps2 also was popular in europe cause they liked the gay soccer game winning eleven and janky rally and f1 games. Ps2 was also late to having online which xbox had a very good version of at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641286) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 2:20 PM Author: goy orbison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641608) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 2:27 PM Author: michael doodikoff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641645) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 2:28 PM Author: goy orbison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641651) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 3:21 PM Author: cowgod OG Xbox was greatly outsold in the west BUT I think its western customers were more satisfied than many care to acknowledge. It really was a “Console that launched with games.” The sort of thing that’s fallen by the wayside but which used to exist. It’s seen as playing with fire. Sega tried it and it all but bankrupted them.
PS2 launched without games. And that’s what drew the developers in. Cutting edge hardware. DVD. No other games for competition initially. That’s what Nintendo learned. Super Mario 64/OOT made western third party games look like shit. So they decided to not even bother. So making Games actually hurt them back then. |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 2:30 PM Author: goy orbison Og xbox live was so 180 I remember playing nba 2k3 online against an old black dude Navy vet who told me he was responsible for shooting down that Iranian airliner in the 80s. Also people would get mad when they were losing and pause the game and hope you'd leave so they could unpause and come back, I always waited them out, sometimes for hours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641658) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 2:39 PM Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump the main thing that was good about OG xbox live is that you could scream "nigger" into your mic playing with randoms and nothing would be done about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641686) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 2:40 PM Author: goy orbison It was truly a golden age (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49641690) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:25 PM Author: cowgod (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49642051) |
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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:46 PM Author: Matthias of Redwall Did Nothing Wrong #Cornflower (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5577140&forum_id=2Firm#49642140) |