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Gonna try again to read Gravity’s Rainbow this year

I got to about the halfway mark when I was much younger and ...
OYT and the Indie Reprieve
  02/02/26
tp
Battle Diaper Alita
  02/02/26
I peaked in IQ at like 19 and couldn't remember wtf I was re...
computer online
  02/02/26
I feel like it’s more of a “life experience&rdqu...
OYT and the Indie Reprieve
  02/02/26
i tried it based on xo and it was a rough read man.
michael doodikoff
  02/02/26
i read the wikipedia summary. seems overrated.
Lab Diamond Dallas Trump
  02/02/26
You’re one of those guys, not surprised.
OYT and the Indie Reprieve
  02/02/26
Just opened it to a random page. Pynchon is a complete hack....
Lab Diamond Dallas Trump
  02/02/26
wow
(antisemite)
  02/03/26
Just ask ChatGPT to give you a five paragraph summary
....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:.,..,..
  02/02/26
Do people who say things like this really believe they are c...
OYT and the Indie Reprieve
  02/02/26
Here I saved you the trouble (you’re welcome) Gravi...
....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:.,..,..
  02/02/26
sounds 180
miltonian
  02/02/26
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Trust If Aryan
  02/03/26
absolutely incomprehensible book overall but it has some 180...
hank_scorpio
  02/02/26
I'm trying to listen to the audiobook and not making any pro...
ALZABO
  02/02/26
I can’t listen to audiobooks without reading along at ...
OYT and the Indie Reprieve
  02/02/26
I tend to listen before bed where it has my full attention. ...
ALZABO
  02/02/26
Where does it fall between Infinite Jest (lengthy, but gener...
Nazca Redlines
  02/02/26
It is much more recondite and labyrinthine than Infinite Jes...
OYT and the Indie Reprieve
  02/02/26
Ulysses is comprehensible and great without a guide
artificial intelligence
  02/02/26
I think he meant Finneagan's Wake.
animeboi
  02/03/26
He means any book
fulano
  02/03/26
...
state your IQ before I engage you further
  02/03/26
I'm sure to visit GameFAQs.com whenever I start a new book
CapTTTainFalcon
  02/03/26
the year is almost over tho
norwood ultra
  02/02/26
You have to take notes in the margins of each page.
Gravity's Rainbow
  02/03/26
i think the speculation is correct that time was represented...
,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.
  02/03/26
I've never tried to read this. No one I've talked to has eve...
fulano
  02/03/26
it has some extremely funny and amusing sequences (like a du...
,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.
  02/03/26
What is the point of reading the book? What insightful life ...
Charles Tyrwhitt Dad
  02/03/26
yeah, if you like to think about modernity and 'the informat...
,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.
  02/03/26
Really could be asked of any book
Gay Wanker
  02/03/26
I do. And many books do offer a good read around those quest...
Charles Tyrwhitt Dad
  02/03/26
these high-concept PoMo novels are really just an aesthetic ...
Colin Hanks
  02/03/26
Thanks. Confirmed what I thought. Like Ayn Rand on steroids?
Charles Tyrwhitt Dad
  02/03/26
How do you know if a book has a "point" to you per...
computer online
  02/03/26
that is one of the dumbest anti-intellectual questions he ha...
fulano
  02/03/26
25, not 40. I'm skeptical, not anti-intellectual. Enough...
Charles Tyrwhitt Dad
  02/03/26
Read book because book fun. Read book to learn about cool st...
computer online
  02/03/26
I don't believe there are insightful "life lessons"...
OYT and the Indie Reprieve
  02/03/26
The deepest, darkest thoughts you referred to are both valid...
Charles Tyrwhitt Dad
  02/03/26
It's a very short exemplar of "post-modern" fictio...
CapTTTainFalcon
  02/03/26
I started it a couple of years ago and it had a cool first s...
........,,,...,,,..,,,...,........,,.,
  02/03/26


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Date: February 2nd, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( )

I got to about the halfway mark when I was much younger and dumber but then totally lost the thread and didn’t know wtf was going on. This will be the year I make it imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49641956)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:37 PM
Author: Battle Diaper Alita

tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642104)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: computer online (🧐)

I peaked in IQ at like 19 and couldn't remember wtf I was reading then. You either need a 140+ iq or to just accept it as an Experience rather than trying to actually know what is going on imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642116)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:42 PM
Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( )

I feel like it’s more of a “life experience” (which is just another way to say trauma imo) thing than an IQ thing. I’ve returned to a lot of books and media later in life with a better understanding and appreciation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642127)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:40 PM
Author: michael doodikoff

i tried it based on xo and it was a rough read man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642120)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:43 PM
Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump

i read the wikipedia summary. seems overrated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642128)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( )

You’re one of those guys, not surprised.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642134)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 8:03 PM
Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump

Just opened it to a random page. Pynchon is a complete hack. Doesn't even compare to grateful shiteater copypasta or even "BREAKING POINT" threads from random xoxo poasters.

-----------------------------------

Earlier in this game she was ner-

vous, constipated, wondering if this was anything like

male impotence. But thoughtful Pointsman, anticipating

_ this, has been sending laxative pills with her meals. Now

her intestines whine softly, and she feels shit begin to

slide down and out. He kneels with his arms up holding

the rich cape. A dark turd appears out the crevice, out of

the absolute darkness between her white buttocks. He

spreads his knees, awkwardly, until he can feel the leather

of her boots. He Jeans forward to surround the hot turd

with his lips, sucking on it tenderly, licking along its lower

side... he is thinking, he’s sorry, he can’t help it, thinking

of a Negro’s penis, yes he knows it abrogates part of the

conditions set, but it will not be denied, the image of a

brute African who will make him behave. ... The stink of

shit floods his nose, gathering him, surrounding. It is the

smell of Passchendaele, of the Salient. Mixed with the

mud, and the putrefaction of corpses, it was the sovereign

smell of their first meeting, and her emblem. The turd

slides into his mouth, down to his gullet. He gags, but

bravely clamps his teeth shut. Bread that would only have

floated in porcelain waters somewhere, unseen, untasted—

risen now and baked in the bitter intestinal Oven to bread

we know, bread that’s light as domestic comfort, secret as

death in bed... Spasms in his throat continue. The pain

is terrible. With his tongue he mashes shit against the roof

of his mouth and ni gon to chew, thickly now, the only

sound in the room.

. There are two more turds, smaller ones, and when he

has eaten these, residual shit to lick out of her anus. He

prays that she'll let him drop the cape over himself, to be

allowed, in the silk-lined darkness, to stay a while longer

with his submissive tongue straining upward into her ass-

hole. But she moves away. The fur evaporates from his

hands. She orders him to masturbate for her. She has

watched Captain Blicero with Gottfried, and has learned

the proper style. ~

The Brigadier comes quickly. The rich’ Goer of semen

fills the room like smoke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642672)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 11:43 AM
Author: (antisemite)

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643579)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:45 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:.,..,..


Just ask ChatGPT to give you a five paragraph summary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642138)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( )

Do people who say things like this really believe they are clever or getting one over on everybody. I can’t tell sometimes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642144)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 5:17 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:.,..,..


Here I saved you the trouble (you’re welcome)

Gravity’s Rainbow is a sprawling, postmodern novel set primarily during the final months of World War II, orbiting around the mysterious German V-2 rocket. The story follows Tyrone Slothrop, an American lieutenant whose sexual encounters appear to predict the landing sites of the rockets in London. This bizarre correlation draws the attention of military intelligence, scientists, and shadowy organizations, all eager to decode—or exploit—the pattern. From the outset, the novel establishes a world where technology, desire, and power are tangled in ways that defy conventional logic.

As Slothrop moves across war-torn Europe, the narrative splinters into dozens of subplots and perspectives. Pynchon introduces an enormous cast of characters—engineers, spies, psychologists, soldiers, and opportunists—each representing different institutions and obsessions of the modern world. The rocket becomes less a weapon than a symbol: of scientific ambition, bureaucratic control, and humanity’s compulsion to surrender agency to systems it barely understands. Cause and effect blur, and paranoia feels less like madness than a rational response to overwhelming complexity.

A major theme of the novel is control—who has it, who thinks they have it, and how it is exercised through technology and data. The V-2 rocket, falling faster than sound, embodies a terrifying future in which destruction arrives before awareness. Slothrop’s own body is treated as a data source, conditioned by experiments and tracked by authorities, suggesting that individuals themselves are reducible to inputs in vast mechanized systems. Free will, if it exists at all, seems fragile and compromised.

Pynchon’s style reinforces these ideas through radical shifts in tone and form. Dense technical passages sit beside slapstick comedy, obscene songs, cartoonish episodes, and philosophical digressions. The novel constantly undermines narrative stability, refusing clear resolutions or moral anchors. This deliberate excess mirrors the information overload and moral confusion of the modern age, forcing the reader to experience disorientation rather than merely read about it.

In its final movement, Gravity’s Rainbow abandons the hope of neat conclusions. Slothrop dissolves into the narrative, and the focus turns fully to the rocket’s arc—both literal and metaphorical—as a trajectory toward an uncertain future. The novel ultimately suggests that history is not a coherent story but a convergence of forces beyond individual comprehension. What remains is the unsettling recognition that technology, desire, and power continue to shape the world long after the war ends, still falling, still accelerating, still just out of reach of understanding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642271)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: miltonian

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642427)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 6:25 AM
Author: Trust If Aryan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643164)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 6:37 PM
Author: hank_scorpio

absolutely incomprehensible book overall but it has some 180 bits, the part on the lightbulb dood and the one on the discovery of benzene are both 18000000 but the rest is just...idk, random shit happening to too many characters and a dood getting a boner all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642405)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 6:41 PM
Author: ALZABO

I'm trying to listen to the audiobook and not making any progress at all. I like audiobooks because I have a 74 IQ and they say the big words for me.

I generally like books where I stay completely lost for most of it (Book of the New Sun, Dhalgren), but I'm having a real tough time with this one.

Going to switch to print and try to sound things out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642412)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 6:58 PM
Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( )

I can’t listen to audiobooks without reading along at the same time. I don’t know how people retain anything by just “listening”, and I suspect that most don’t.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642471)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 10:04 PM
Author: ALZABO

I tend to listen before bed where it has my full attention. And some books have an audio performance that is so good that it enhances the book. Book of the New Sun was like that.

But you aren’t wrong, it definitely probably has some effect, and when listening to GR I am lost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642898)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 6:58 PM
Author: Nazca Redlines

Where does it fall between Infinite Jest (lengthy, but generally comprehensible and enjoyable for a 168+ LSAT scorer) to Ulysses (purportedly generally incomprehesible without a reading guide, which might or might not be flame, though I haven't read it myself)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642474)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 7:08 PM
Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( )

It is much more recondite and labyrinthine than Infinite Jest. Like yeah IJ has all those long footnotes but they are easy enough to comprehend and situate within the narrative.

GR actually starts relatively tight and easygoing and then gradually spirals out and away into a sprawling maze of narrative threads and discourses. All of it is intentional obviously. It’s sort of like Catch 22 which was one of the only contemporary novels I’ve ever read that I thought was truly great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642516)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: artificial intelligence

Ulysses is comprehensible and great without a guide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642856)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 6:19 AM
Author: animeboi (.)

I think he meant Finneagan's Wake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643160)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 7:59 AM
Author: fulano

He means any book

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643194)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 9:33 AM
Author: state your IQ before I engage you further



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643298)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 1:58 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

I'm sure to visit GameFAQs.com whenever I start a new book

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643978)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: norwood ultra

the year is almost over tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49642859)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 6:08 AM
Author: Gravity's Rainbow

You have to take notes in the margins of each page.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643158)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 6:20 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


i think the speculation is correct that time was represented as a toroid in the novel. cause and effect for slothrop are defined as a toroidal path rather than as a linear 1/2/3/n series of events. this is why he is confused a lot.

this is fairly straightforward, too. the focus on the parabolic arcs of the V2 rockets is a direct reference to causality bending 'beyond the zero' and back around to the observer (slothrop)'s perceived 'present.'

but slothtrop is not a magical character. he can only experience his reality via normal 3D geometry and linear time. the gap between his perception and the actual elliptical structure of his timeline seems like a more general attempt to bring 70's-era developments in physics (quantum processes; multi-dimensional universes where 3D observers can only see slices of higher-dimensional phenomena) into literature. pynchon was an engineer, after all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643161)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 8:01 AM
Author: fulano

I've never tried to read this. No one I've talked to has ever described it as anything other than a vibe with a lot of themes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643195)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 8:07 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


it has some extremely funny and amusing sequences (like a dude getting castrated or a mid-air pie-fight), but it's kind of a research project at the same time if you want the book to make sense as a whole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643201)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 8:16 AM
Author: Charles Tyrwhitt Dad

What is the point of reading the book? What insightful life lessons do you get? Interesting viewpoints on morality or ethics or human nature?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643210)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 8:40 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


yeah, if you like to think about modernity and 'the information age' as a whole. if you mean some kind of eternal verity that the ancients would have recognized, probably not really unless the guy was a pythagorean or an estoeric platonist and you were talking about non-standard geometries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643229)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 8:42 AM
Author: Gay Wanker

Really could be asked of any book

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643230)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 9:07 AM
Author: Charles Tyrwhitt Dad

I do. And many books do offer a good read around those questions. I've never heard anyone talk about Gravity's Rainbow from those angles so that's probably why I've never bothered to contemplate reading it. Your basic Agatha Christie from 1940 is probably more rewarding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643267)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 8:48 AM
Author: Colin Hanks

these high-concept PoMo novels are really just an aesthetic thing. it's about watching someone with a 150IQ max out for 1000 pages just to see it done, just to get wrapped up in following all the tangents, symbolism, Easter eggs, etc.

it doesn't really illuminate anything in an immediate way like a lot of great literature is capable of doing.

it's the purest of scholarly treats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643233)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 9:08 AM
Author: Charles Tyrwhitt Dad

Thanks. Confirmed what I thought. Like Ayn Rand on steroids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643268)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 9:10 AM
Author: computer online (🧐)

How do you know if a book has a "point" to you personally unless you actually read it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643269)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 9:29 AM
Author: fulano

that is one of the dumbest anti-intellectual questions he has ever posited and he's been here for 40 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643289)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 9:50 AM
Author: Charles Tyrwhitt Dad

25, not 40.

I'm skeptical, not anti-intellectual. Enough to know that intellectuals themselves are subject to their own vanities and that extends to the literature they promote. Not everything is East of Eden.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643326)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: computer online (🧐)

Read book because book fun. Read book to learn about cool stuff. Etc. You've spent too much time talking to philosophy majors in your life or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643712)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 10:28 AM
Author: OYT and the Indie Reprieve ( )

I don't believe there are insightful "life lessons". There is only the bleak absurdity of existence and the vain self-delusions of man, nature's most dangerously conscious species.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643405)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 10:52 AM
Author: Charles Tyrwhitt Dad

The deepest, darkest thoughts you referred to are both valid and overrated. "life lessons" are a pretty good way in coming to terms with them and how to get on with life.

I guess I'm ultimately a Montesquieuan who is also guide by Montaigne's immanent contentment. And the good old fashioned morality of Agatha Christie's mysteries. To me, that's the answer to the meaning of life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643431)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 2:00 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

It's a very short exemplar of "post-modern" fiction

You read it to get a good sense, and then you turn back to the Western canon

and you renew your desire to genocide the jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643986)



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Date: February 3rd, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: ........,,,...,,,..,,,...,........,,.,


I started it a couple of years ago and it had a cool first sentence but about 20 pages in I had no idea wtf was going on and who anyone was so I put it down and have yet to pick it back up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5830201&forum_id=2Firm#49643576)