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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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passionate high-end sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
  12/16/25
18000
passionate high-end sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
passionate high-end sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison
  12/17/25
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passionate high-end sweet tailpipe
  12/17/25
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Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Swashbuckling federal messiness
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
  12/16/25
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Swashbuckling federal messiness
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Aromatic Immigrant
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Lilac pervert degenerate
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
domesticated hall coffee pot
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Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
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passionate high-end sweet tailpipe
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
floppy juggernaut sandwich
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Apoplectic jet-lagged whorehouse water buffalo
  12/17/25
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Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy
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floppy juggernaut sandwich
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passionate high-end sweet tailpipe
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passionate high-end sweet tailpipe
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
deranged philosopher-king
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: passionate high-end sweet tailpipe



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: passionate high-end sweet tailpipe

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: passionate high-end sweet tailpipe

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: passionate high-end sweet tailpipe



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Swashbuckling federal messiness

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Swashbuckling federal messiness



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Aromatic Immigrant

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Lilac pervert degenerate

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: domesticated hall coffee pot

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: passionate high-end sweet tailpipe



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: floppy juggernaut sandwich

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Apoplectic jet-lagged whorehouse water buffalo

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Lake arrogant ladyboy puppy



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: floppy juggernaut sandwich



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: scarlet razzle-dazzle becky garrison

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: deranged philosopher-king

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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