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Sullivan & Cromwell, on behalf of DJT, gapes the criminal conviction

it's nearly comical to read S&C's utter destruction of t...
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reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separat...
'''"''"'''""'""
  10/28/25
reminder: lmao you are the retarded antifa pumo who is stupi...
Green JoIIy Squancher
  10/28/25
no one? i'm assuming that the appellate court will pick on...
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reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separat...
'''"''"'''""'""
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Apparently Trump loves Bob Guiffra now. It's a hot topic wit...
Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity
  10/28/25
justified text. wtf various orphaned lines of paragraphs ...
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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:19 PM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,.....
Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity
  10/28/25
?
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gbti
Gaynigger from Outer Space
  10/28/25
Grow a beard. This is how "versus" cases tradition...
Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity
  10/28/25
rofl serious? i don't do NY staTTTe court
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What font is that?
Paralegal Six Nine
  10/28/25
is it century (Not century schoolbook)
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Pursuant to N.Y.C.R.R. § 1250.8(j), the foregoing brief...
richard clock
  10/28/25
Ty
Paralegal Six Nine
  10/28/25
wow i called the century above. rate me
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165 at best for not just scrolling to the end of the brief t...
richard clock
  10/28/25
that's generous. in hindsight, pretty low iq not to check th...
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Scholarship
single guy who won't stfu about his "ex"
  10/28/25
reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separat...
'''"''"'''""'""
  10/28/25
Printed on recycled paper
Kiwi Camara and the no nig covenant
  10/28/25
...
Gaynigger from Outer Space
  10/28/25
pretty devastating argument, not surprising given what a clo...
richard clock
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First, on the topic of Justice Merchan’s improper poli...
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reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separat...
'''"''"'''""'""
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I think not.
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  10/28/25
reminder: lmao you are the retarded antifa pumo who is stupi...
Green JoIIy Squancher
  10/28/25
I mean, you could have put this fact pattern on a first year...
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LLM Vance
  10/28/25
reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separat...
'''"''"'''""'""
  10/28/25
reminder: the 34 "felonies" are literally that he ...
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Wasn’t each juror allowed to choose their own theory?
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The crime was the journal entries. However, that's a misdeme...
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  10/28/25
It’s more fun for the jury that way
Judas Jones
  10/28/25
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potluck
  10/28/25
...
Green JoIIy Squancher
  10/28/25
Goosebumps: Choose Your Own Legal Theory
Gaynigger from Outer Space
  10/28/25
reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separat...
'''"''"'''""'""
  10/28/25
reminder: lmao you are the retarded antifa pumo who is stupi...
Green JoIIy Squancher
  10/28/25
seems pretty rigorous and fun to write
Kenneth Play
  10/28/25
This is a brutal beat down. I don't envy the guy who has to ...
Candy Ride
  10/28/25
amazing
Green JoIIy Squancher
  10/28/25
Another item they don't get into here but should be discusse...
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holy shit https://www.sullcrom.com/Lawyers/Morgan-L-Ratne...
dha tux
  10/28/25
...
Kenneth Play
  10/28/25
Robert’s and Kav? Fear the turtle.
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Haha shit - I forgot that all these records were made AFTER ...
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Wait wasn’t the theory that the designation was to win...
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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:00 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


it's nearly comical to read S&C's utter destruction of the criminal case against Trump.

https://static.politico.com/8b/9e/8663b7e849cf87d9220333fb3a36/2025-00648-people-of-the-state-of-v-people-of-the-state-of-appellant-s-brief-66.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382732)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: '''"''"'''""'""

reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separate felony charges including two confirmed Trumpmo jurors. That’s 408 guilty votes.

prediction: you guys are gonna be disappointed with the outcome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382896)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: Green JoIIy Squancher (✅🍑)

reminder: lmao you are the retarded antifa pumo who is stupider than wlmas and nyuug lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383134)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


no one?

i'm assuming that the appellate court will pick one deadly flaw in the prosecution and leave it at that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382761)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: '''"''"'''""'""

reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separate felony charges including two confirmed Trumpmo jurors. That’s 408 guilty votes.

prediction: you guys are gonna be disappointed with the outcome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382897)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:17 PM
Author: Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity

Apparently Trump loves Bob Guiffra now. It's a hot topic within S&C.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382769)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


justified text. wtf

various orphaned lines of paragraphs

unitalicized v. in many case cites. wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382776)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity

Date: October 28th, 2025 5:19 PM

Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,

justified text. wtf

various orphaned lines of paragraphs

unitalicized v. in many case cites. wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2#49382776)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382788)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:23 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382791)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: Gaynigger from Outer Space

gbti

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382890)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Madison Avenue Lemming Enslaved to Conformity

Grow a beard. This is how "versus" cases traditionally are cited in the NY appellate courts.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382804)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:18 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


rofl serious? i don't do NY staTTTe court

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383097)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: Paralegal Six Nine

What font is that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382778)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:20 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


is it century (Not century schoolbook)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382783)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: richard clock

Pursuant to N.Y.C.R.R. § 1250.8(j), the foregoing brief was

prepared on a computer using Microsoft Word. A proportionally spaced

typeface was used as follows:

Name of Typeface: CenturyExpd BT

Point Size: 14

Line Spacing: Double

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382807)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: Paralegal Six Nine

Ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382843)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


wow i called the century above. rate me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383098)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: richard clock

165 at best for not just scrolling to the end of the brief to find out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383102)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


that's generous. in hindsight, pretty low iq not to check the certificate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383120)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: single guy who won't stfu about his "ex"

Scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382792)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: '''"''"'''""'""

reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separate felony charges including two confirmed Trumpmo jurors. That’s 408 guilty votes.

prediction: you guys are gonna be disappointed with the outcome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382898)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:31 PM
Author: Kiwi Camara and the no nig covenant ((zurich is stained))

Printed on recycled paper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382806)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: Gaynigger from Outer Space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382887)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: richard clock

pretty devastating argument, not surprising given what a clown show that trial was. seems like it will be hard for the appellate court not to overturn on at least one of those grounds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382809)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382837)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


First, on the topic of Justice Merchan’s improper political contributions,

the Committee made two points. It first stated that “none” of the

contributions at issue “was made to the defendant or the prosecutor or anyone

else involved in the case.” A405. That logic is hard to understand. If

contributions to President Trump’s 2020 campaign would have been

disqualifying, as the Committee seemed to imply, then surely a contribution

directly against him—to his opponent in both the 2020 and 2024 Presidential

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campaigns—should have been disqualifying as well. There is little doubt that

DANY would have cried foul if Justice Merchan had donated $35 to President

Trump’s 2020 campaign, and rightly so.

The Committee also reasoned that Justice Merchan’s contributions were

made “more than two years” before the indictment, and that the Committee

“seldom require[s] disqualification . . . for more than two years.” A405. But

the Committee’s two citations for this supposed two-year statute of limitations

were not remotely on-point. The first was an ethics opinion requiring judges

to disclose (for two years) the fact of their having attended an attorney’s

wedding as a guest. See Opinion 22-138. The second was an opinion requiring

judges to recuse from any case involving an attorney who personally

represented the judge (in the preceding two years). See Opinion 22-183. The

Committee did not explain how either situation is analogous. More

importantly, the judicial code’s written provision forbidding political

contributions—a provision the Committee did not cite—contains no time limit,

let alone a time limit of only two years for Presidential campaigns, which of

course take place every four years.

Second, the Committee was not apprised of all of the troubling additional

facts bearing on Justice Merchan’s neutrality. The Committee’s opinion

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merely referred to Ms. Merchan as a “high-ranking officer” and employee of

Authentic Campaigns, rather than part-owner with a direct financial interest

in the company. A405. At the time of the opinion, President Trump had not

yet uncovered Authentic’s advertisements specifically discussing DANY’s

prosecution. Thus, the Committee was under the misimpression that

Authentic would not do “any work referencing or affected by the criminal

charges at issue here.” A306. As explained at pp. 90-91, supra, that was not

accurate. Nor did the Committee address or analyze Justice Merchan’s

improper conduct with Weisselberg in the separate case against the Trump

Organization.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382842)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: '''"''"'''""'""

reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separate felony charges including two confirmed Trumpmo jurors. That’s 408 guilty votes.

prediction: you guys are gonna be disappointed with the outcome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382899)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:33 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


I think not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382967)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: Green JoIIy Squancher (✅🍑)

reminder: lmao you are the retarded antifa pumo who is stupider than wlmas and nyuug lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383141)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


I mean, you could have put this fact pattern on a first year exam and the students would still be typing as time ran up.

I haven't read the argument yet but if you remember, this was a case even the NYT said was based on dubious legal arguements - before it actually went forward and all libs fell in line.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382852)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 5:45 PM
Author: LLM Vance



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382853)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: '''"''"'''""'""

reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separate felony charges including two confirmed Trumpmo jurors. That’s 408 guilty votes.

prediction: you guys are gonna be disappointed with the outcome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382901)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:31 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


reminder: the 34 "felonies" are literally that he wrote "legal expenses" instead of "hush money payments" 34 times in his own private ledgers that were relied on by no one but him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382960)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:36 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Wasn’t each juror allowed to choose their own theory?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382971)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:37 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


The crime was the journal entries. However, that's a misdemeanor where the statue of limiations had expired.

To get it to a felony, you had to say it was done in furtherance of a crime. This is where the court dubiously allowed each juror to choose their own legal theory (even if their legal theory didn't make sense).



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382977)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:47 PM
Author: Judas Jones

It’s more fun for the jury that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383004)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: potluck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383107)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: Green JoIIy Squancher (✅🍑)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383143)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 8:59 PM
Author: Gaynigger from Outer Space

Goosebumps: Choose Your Own Legal Theory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383476)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:06 PM
Author: '''"''"'''""'""

reminder cons: 12-person unanimous convictions on 34 separate felony charges including two confirmed Trumpmo jurors. That’s 408 guilty votes.

prediction: you guys are gonna be disappointed with the outcome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382894)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: Green JoIIy Squancher (✅🍑)

reminder: lmao you are the retarded antifa pumo who is stupider than wlmas and nyuug lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383145)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 6:36 PM
Author: Kenneth Play

seems pretty rigorous and fun to write

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49382973)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 7:43 PM
Author: Candy Ride

This is a brutal beat down. I don't envy the guy who has to respond to that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383172)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 8:20 PM
Author: Green JoIIy Squancher (✅🍑)

amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383313)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


Another item they don't get into here but should be discussed more is:

(i) it's totally legal for Trump to make these payments

(ii) Trump, as the candidate, was able to donate an infinite amount of money to his own campaign

(iii) Trump gave this task to his lawyer and marked it as legal expenses

So this whole thing relies on the dubious theory that Trump is responsible for Cohen, a barred attorney, fucking up and taking perfectly legal transactions and making them illegal.

Not to mention that you also would've had to prove that these were campaign expenses in the first place (which they weren't).

But again, the court wildly decided that you didn't have to prove that the second crime was a crime - just that the jury thought it was for a crime in their opinion...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383359)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383391)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: dha tux ( )

holy shit

https://www.sullcrom.com/Lawyers/Morgan-L-Ratner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383392)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: Kenneth Play



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383395)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 8:42 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Robert’s and Kav? Fear the turtle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383405)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 8:43 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


Haha shit - I forgot that all these records were made AFTER the election.

Jfc this was fraud upon fraud on the court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383408)



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Date: October 28th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Wait wasn’t the theory that the designation was to win the election? But the election was already over? Did the DANY argue that the designation would use a Time Machine to go back and affect the election?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790942&forum_id=2Firm#49383491)