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greatest guitar riff of the 90's candlebox far behind right?
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Date: June 1st, 2013 9:27 PM Author: Snowy know-it-all dragon gotta be that or under the bridge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23313324) |
Date: June 1st, 2013 9:34 PM Author: Snowy know-it-all dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23313372) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 9:36 PM Author: Unholy Domesticated Puppy gross (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23313384) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 9:36 PM Author: Snowy know-it-all dragon ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23313386) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 10:56 PM Author: Snowy know-it-all dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23313996) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 10:59 PM Author: puce passionate toaster geek usa. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314010) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:04 PM Author: Snowy know-it-all dragon no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314061) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:19 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs love SP but no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314614) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:12 PM Author: Hairraiser Milky School Cafeteria the guitar riff in no more tears is one of the classics of rock music. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314120) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:23 PM Author: Anal stage becky 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314226) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:10 AM Author: Hairraiser Milky School Cafeteria http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amCKVBnwPAo#t=24m14s
i mean that's just blistering. and it was a radio hit no less. |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:13 PM Author: Idiotic sex offender Come on. If we're factoring in objective things like how immediately recognizable and influential the riff is, isn't it necessarily Smells Like Teen Spirit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314128) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:15 PM Author: Snowy know-it-all dragon no. start your own thread for "most immediately recognizable and influential riff of the 90s" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314146) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:29 PM Author: Idiotic sex offender I'm saying that those things factor into a reasonable conception of "greatest". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314270) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:31 PM Author: Snowy know-it-all dragon smells like teen spirit isn't even a "riff" the way most would use the term. good song sure. maybe even the greatest song of the time period. but not the greatest riff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314285) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:05 AM Author: Primrose Arousing Cumskin Brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314515) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:07 AM Author: Maniacal Feces How is that not a riff, let alone the most coveted riff to learn of any kid who touched a guitar during the decade of the 90s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314535) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:18 PM Author: Sepia Office Immigrant just because it's played from a guitar doesn't mean it's a guitar riff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319010) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 11:04 PM Author: Apoplectic nursing home place of business cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331893) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:44 PM Author: ultramarine bull headed native private investor it's a riff. i'm not sure what your definition is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331393) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:47 PM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331408) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:16 PM Author: Maniacal Feces Cult of Personality
Listen to that song and ask yourself what the fuck that was all about, what decade it actually belonged in, then report back to me |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:18 PM Author: Snowy know-it-all dragon it's a good riff but that song came out in the 80s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314176) |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:23 PM Author: Maniacal Feces Oh
Well Today is a better and earlier version of the Candlebox riff |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:28 PM Author: Idiotic sex offender Today is pretty 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314266) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:10 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314553) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 6:53 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive cr. that is arguably the best rock song of the 80s. it's so great. |
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Date: June 1st, 2013 11:20 PM Author: Stirring Arrogant Fortuitous Meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314198) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:05 AM Author: Primrose Arousing Cumskin Brethren not to be a Radiofag or anything, but Paranoid Android and even Creep are >>> (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314518) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:08 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs love radiohead but no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314538) |
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Date: March 12th, 2026 1:10 AM Author: goyim in abundanceeeeee Cr re Paranoid Android. Some of the motifs in that song are so striking they seem almost immortal like they existed before time began. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#49736471) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:05 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs smells like teen spirit
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:11 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs breeders - cannonball
close thread |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:16 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs pearl jam alive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314591) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:20 AM Author: Idiotic sex offender Solid, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314620) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:21 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs if that opening riff doesn't transport you back to the 90s then you don't have a pulse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314626) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:22 AM Author: Idiotic sex offender Pearl Jam is pretty great for that. Jeremy does the same thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314630) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:45 PM Author: ultramarine bull headed native private investor also, yellow ledbetter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331395) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:23 AM Author: Appetizing Dull Business Firm Gaming Laptop I always liked the Just a Girl riff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:24 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs great contribution ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314640) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:24 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs Dark Horse suggestion
Green Day
Brain Stew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cwy02FXlX4 |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:29 AM Author: Idiotic sex offender Again, not bad. Very recognizable and definitely a product of the time period. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314687) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:29 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs yeah
definitely not the greatest, just one that was definitely burned into my brain during the 90s |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 4:53 AM Author: Appetizing Dull Business Firm Gaming Laptop I hope you see the irony of this poast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23315629) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 6:48 PM Author: Appetizing Dull Business Firm Gaming Laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23318833) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 11:13 PM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs just googled
I had no idea!!! |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 12:28 AM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs GOTTA KEEP EM SEPARATED (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23314680) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 6:54 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Come as You Are
(by Killing Joke) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1U1Ue_5kq8 |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:02 PM Author: Odious Philosopher-king Messiness legit no bullshit, not flame 100% objective answer - Lenny Kravitz "Are You Gonna Go My Way" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23318909) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:45 PM Author: ultramarine bull headed native private investor true but did he rip this off? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331397) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:03 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Here Comes Your Man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMfc9niwn5A |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:04 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Personal Jesus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23318923) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:15 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Loser by Beck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23318993) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:17 PM Author: Sepia Office Immigrant riff as part of a solo or riff as part of the chorus/bridge? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319006) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 1:10 AM Author: Snowy know-it-all dragon hm? i mean the main riff, i.e., the intro/verse part although the solo in far behind is awesome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23327442) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:20 PM Author: saffron thriller pervert potus Now may-yay-yay-yay-yaybe.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319032) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:22 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Edie Brickell - What I Am (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319043) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 12:33 AM Author: Chocolate hissy fit 1988 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23332536) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:24 PM Author: lascivious tantric site crotch has to be something by pantera you faggots (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319062) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:27 PM Author: saffron thriller pervert potus COTDAMN I still can't believe dimebag was murdered. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319077) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:26 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Ace of Spades http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcf7DnHi54g (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319068) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:29 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Jon Spencer - Skunk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me09HjhMU2I |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:33 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Supersonic - Oasis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319111) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:33 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Ladykillers - Lush http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSgYHzACvMI |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:37 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive River of Deceit - Mad Season http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm72DPJCX58 |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 8:29 PM Author: Titillating Vermilion Locus Surprising choice brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331061) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:47 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive ty brother. it is what it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331415) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:38 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Drown - Smashing Pumpkins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGDzsds4Ll0 |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:46 PM Author: ultramarine bull headed native private investor fuckin solid choice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331406) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:47 PM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331410) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:40 PM Author: charismatic emerald range macaca paranoid android is a guitar marvel even for the 90s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-w2wgceXUE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319150) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 9:03 PM Author: Primrose Arousing Cumskin Brethren iknowrite. I knew someone else here wasn't a tard like Jacoby Shitdix. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319686) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:45 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive I'll Be You - The Replacements http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pHmaHzfMBE |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:45 PM Author: Vigorous painfully honest kitty rigor enter sandman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319200) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 7:47 PM Author: Galvanic senate idea he suggested actually it was in 1993 in 4 Non Blonde's What's Up. yours is 2nd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23319217) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2013 8:37 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive Man in the Box - Alice in Chains http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71zsRJR_X4E |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 8:27 PM Author: Sadistic lilac corner hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331047) |
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Date: June 5th, 2013 12:33 AM Author: Chocolate hissy fit CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23332538) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 7:43 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive this song is fucking garbage, but the riff is good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ8TQx_ZNps |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:50 PM Author: ultramarine bull headed native private investor sublime - santeria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYN5w4T_aM |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 9:51 PM Author: Ruddy cracking shrine depressive modest mouse - dramamine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK1bi4emEkk (the whole intro thing is like 2 riffs) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 11:01 PM Author: Apoplectic nursing home place of business itt: lots of people who don't know what a riff is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23331854) |
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Date: June 4th, 2013 11:03 PM Author: ultramarine bull headed native private investor The definition is broad:
In various popular music styles, riff refers to a brief, relaxed phrase repeated over changing melodies. It may serve as a refrain or melodic figure, often played by the rhythm section instruments or solo instruments that form the basis or accompaniment of a musical composition.[16] Though they are most often found in rock music, Latin, funk and jazz, classical music is also sometimes based on a simple riff, such as Ravel's Boléro. Riffs can be as simple as a tenor saxophone honking a simple, catchy rhythmic figure, or as complex as the riff-based variations in the head arrangements played by the Count Basie Orchestra.
David Brackett (1999) defines riffs as, "...short melodic phrases," while Richard Middleton (1999)[17] defines them as "short rhythmic, melodic, or harmonic figures repeated to form a structural framework". Rikky Rooksby[18] states, "A riff is a short, repeated, memorable musical phrase, often pitched low on the guitar, which focuses much of the energy and excitement of a rock song."
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Date: June 4th, 2013 11:41 PM Author: Sapphire wonderful property Thunderstruck came out in 1990. So, it's that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#23332181) |
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Date: June 10th, 2013 9:45 PM Author: Cerebral Dead Meetinghouse Subject: WTF is wrong with people ITT It's More Human than Human
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Date: March 12th, 2026 12:53 AM Author: Gay of Hormuz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#49736458) |
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Date: March 12th, 2026 12:56 AM Author: antigoyism Probably some random Green Day song tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#49736461) |
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Date: March 12th, 2026 1:09 AM Author: goyim in abundanceeeeee Dinosaur Jr - Start Choppin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#49736470) |
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Date: March 12th, 2026 1:21 AM Author: goyim in abundanceeeeee Gonna go with a really off the wall answer here and say Rage Against the Machine - Born of a Broken Man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2271148&forum_id=2Firm#49736476) |