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Int'l Law hypo: Iran closes Strait of Hormuz..

U.S. responds w/ military force. OK under intl law?
Grizzly multi-colored indirect expression skinny woman
  02/25/12
What is an international law bro? Sounds like flame to me br...
Yellow apoplectic hunting ground telephone
  02/25/12
def. flame. pretend article 38 of ICJ means something for a ...
Grizzly multi-colored indirect expression skinny woman
  02/25/12
Article 2 of the UN Charter: All members shall refrain in...
honey-headed senate newt
  02/25/12
Carter Doctrine says fuck off to the applicability of this a...
Grizzly multi-colored indirect expression skinny woman
  02/25/12
Also violates Kellog-Briand Pact <-- although this is sof...
Narrow-minded Obsidian Institution Preventive Strike
  02/25/12
couldn't you argue the 2-mile wide shipping lane is internat...
Narrow-minded Obsidian Institution Preventive Strike
  02/25/12
explosive warheads generally cannot be argued against.
titillating hot locale pervert
  02/25/12
is the underlying principle here that a territory is interna...
Glittery ocher kitty
  02/25/12
the strait is actually iranian territorial waters (21 miles ...
titillating hot locale pervert
  02/25/12
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_seas
honey-headed senate newt
  02/25/12
freedom to hold naval exercises (like randomly firing a few ...
titillating hot locale pervert
  02/25/12
...
Narrow-minded Obsidian Institution Preventive Strike
  02/25/12
It's treated like the high seas because it's a strait necess...
Laughsome disturbing business firm
  02/25/12
wtf. territorial waters go out 12 miles, not 200
slippery flatulent set
  02/25/12
are you guys this dumb? blockading a country is an act of w...
cyan sexy university feces
  02/25/12
not to mention the fact that ~20 billion barrels of oil flow...
Grizzly multi-colored indirect expression skinny woman
  02/25/12
land based cruise missiles with passive IR seekers trump you...
titillating hot locale pervert
  02/25/12
bro, this is a discussion about intl law. Everyone here know...
Grizzly multi-colored indirect expression skinny woman
  02/25/12
tbf, *masturbates furiously*
Glittery ocher kitty
  02/25/12
Wait for Iran to inevitably mine the strait or launch a miss...
cruel-hearted stage
  02/25/12
hence the iranian push to get nuclear warheads built. yo...
titillating hot locale pervert
  02/25/12
lol iran can't crater shit noICBMpwnd
nudist mahogany becky
  02/25/12
lol. even if iran developed nukes, or even if they developed...
cyan sexy university feces
  02/25/12
THis is why ron paul's foreign policy makes sense ... and wh...
Pea-brained heaven roommate
  02/25/12
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Gay of Hormuz
  03/10/26


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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:00 PM
Author: Grizzly multi-colored indirect expression skinny woman

U.S. responds w/ military force. OK under intl law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052778)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:01 PM
Author: Yellow apoplectic hunting ground telephone

What is an international law bro? Sounds like flame to me brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052784)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:06 PM
Author: Grizzly multi-colored indirect expression skinny woman

def. flame. pretend article 38 of ICJ means something for a moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052832)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:02 PM
Author: honey-headed senate newt

Article 2 of the UN Charter:

All members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052797)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:07 PM
Author: Grizzly multi-colored indirect expression skinny woman

Carter Doctrine says fuck off to the applicability of this article.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052845)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:11 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Obsidian Institution Preventive Strike

Also violates Kellog-Briand Pact <-- although this is soft law. (not that all intl. law can't be regarded as soft law)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052875)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:33 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Obsidian Institution Preventive Strike

couldn't you argue the 2-mile wide shipping lane is international territory given the fact that so much of the world's oil flows through it each day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054040)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:41 PM
Author: titillating hot locale pervert

explosive warheads generally cannot be argued against.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054119)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Glittery ocher kitty

is the underlying principle here that a territory is international if a substantial proportion of the world's supply of an important commodity passes through the territory?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054312)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:12 PM
Author: titillating hot locale pervert

the strait is actually iranian territorial waters (21 miles across, well within the 200 mile water limits) shared jointly with UAE etc as it falls under all the countries territorial waters.

they dont have to close it. all they have to do is say they will randomly fire a few hundred rounds from an artillery cannon with a 15 mile range across the strait every day.

good luck getting insurance for your ships after that.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052883)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:13 PM
Author: honey-headed senate newt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_seas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052895)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:15 PM
Author: titillating hot locale pervert

freedom to hold naval exercises (like randomly firing a few hundred shells...) is not prohibited by that article mang.

also the high seas are not territorial waters.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052909)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:16 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Obsidian Institution Preventive Strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052914)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:20 PM
Author: Laughsome disturbing business firm

It's treated like the high seas because it's a strait necessary for international commercial intercourse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20052947)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:51 PM
Author: slippery flatulent set

wtf. territorial waters go out 12 miles, not 200

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20053111)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 7:56 PM
Author: cyan sexy university feces

are you guys this dumb?

blockading a country is an act of war

closing the straights of hormuz is a naval blockade of Kuwait and Iraq, two of our allies.

act of war against our allies may be treated as an act of war against the United States.

the U.S. navy crushes the Iranian Navy and military withing 200 miles of the straits in about 12 hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20053161)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 8:30 PM
Author: Grizzly multi-colored indirect expression skinny woman

not to mention the fact that ~20 billion barrels of oil flow out of it each day. Wouldn't criticality of global commerce trump some vague territorial claims?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20053504)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: titillating hot locale pervert

land based cruise missiles with passive IR seekers trump your vague "criticality of global commerce" claims.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054072)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Grizzly multi-colored indirect expression skinny woman

bro, this is a discussion about intl law. Everyone here knows that intl law lacks an enforcement mechanism and is worthless, not to mention the fact that it has been rendered historically moot by numerous armed conflicts without any reprisal from international bodies. I am simply wondering about which intl. laws would apply in this scenario, not whether or not anyone would give a fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054318)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:10 PM
Author: Glittery ocher kitty

tbf, *masturbates furiously*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054326)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:49 PM
Author: cruel-hearted stage

Wait for Iran to inevitably mine the strait or launch a missile or send out a speedboat-----Article 51 self-defense justification for use of force, bam. Tehran turns into a crater.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054160)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 9:56 PM
Author: titillating hot locale pervert

hence the iranian push to get nuclear warheads built.

you crater us, we crater you.

its how MAD works.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054210)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: nudist mahogany becky

lol iran can't crater shit

noICBMpwnd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054264)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:05 PM
Author: cyan sexy university feces

lol. even if iran developed nukes, or even if they developed ICBMs, we could utterly wipe them off the face of the map before they knew what hit them.

1. if we launched nukes from subs right off their coasts, there is no way they would detect them soon enough to launch a counterstrike

2. alternatively, we could have black ops smuggle some nukes into the country and detonate them at iran's nuclear silos.

3. or, of course, the united states could just drop some nukes from a B2 bomber

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054287)



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Date: February 25th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: Pea-brained heaven roommate

THis is why ron paul's foreign policy makes sense ... and why the fear mongering re iranian nuclear capability is retarded. Largely about isreal's discomfort with a nuclear armed iran really

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#20054371)



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Date: March 10th, 2026 3:30 AM
Author: Gay of Hormuz



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1883233&forum_id=2Firm#49731211)