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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Snowy excitant location Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: light swashbuckling property Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Firm#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: light swashbuckling property They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Firm#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Snowy excitant location read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Firm#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Purple multi-colored legend university Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Firm#49065184) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: vigorous cruel-hearted gaping I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Firm#48985033) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Fuchsia Shaky Really Tough Guy Mood i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Firm#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: stirring clear rigpig Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Firm#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: crystalline box office community account really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Yellow vibrant stage gay wizard It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Firm#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: Motley resort elastic band it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Firm#49458174) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: crystalline box office community account actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Demanding hell gunner "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Firm#49838410) |