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Date: February 28th, 2013 5:11 AM Author: dull elastic band
i'd guess that different people have their own preferences. nickleback was surely the leading group overall. i think the zeitgeist itself was captured by the single "caught in the rain" by revis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn_zhdYFABE
that came out in 2003, and i feel like it captures kind of a post-90's, post-tech boom wounded prosperity. things are still sort of okay, but it's a little different; the sound is a bit more longing maybe. i think a lot of bro rock was either pumped-up party rock (here comes the boom; party hard) or more of this kind of revis stuff (chevelle, 3 doors down, hoobastank).
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Date: February 28th, 2013 5:14 AM Author: bespoke orchestra pit yarmulke
this is true.
90s alt rock radio morphed into something truly putrid and unlistenable in the early 2000s. in the late 90s/2000, you still had effeminate alternative bands like Marcy Playground appearing on rock radio. then it turned completely into that deep Pro-Tools wall-of-noise sludge-rock, nickelback shit.
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Date: February 28th, 2013 5:34 AM Author: dull elastic band
it's an interesting question. it happened fairly quickly once the rupture between bro rock and indie/alternative rock got underway, though.
i think it started around 95/96. cobain was dead, and there was an emerging category of white zombie/korn/RATM music that wasn't metal and wasn't exactly alternative rock, either. especially whenever rap elements showed up.
then within a few years, a bunch of MTV-friendly bro bands started popping up, falling roughly into the rap-rock/DJ category (limp bizkit, incubus, POD, etc.) and the "straight" rock category, sometimes with fear factory-influenced "industrial" elements (basically, late-90's WWF theme music - godsmack, disturbed, staind, orgy, lit, and so on).
90's creed was probably the biggest precursor of the "earnest" or "yearning" school of bro rock.
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Date: February 28th, 2013 5:59 AM Author: dull elastic band
i think a lot of them were bands that existed already, but didn't quite have the right media-friendly sound. but a label saw potential, and gave them a makeover. like how blink-182 and yellowcard both did actual skater punk in the early/mid-90's before being given their new sonic sheen and MTV introductions.
frontline had a documentary from 2001 called the merchants of cool which specifically discussed the origins of limp bizkit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxGjRclN3mw#t=46m
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Date: February 28th, 2013 5:46 AM Author: bespoke orchestra pit yarmulke
cr.
the op is correct that it only really crystallizes in hindsight.
at the time, living through it, it wasn't clear what was happening. rock radio just began to sound undefinably different: even though bands were superficially still doing the rip-off grunge sound, with the eddie vedder warbling and power-chord guitars, the style/production was changing. the songs were becoming oppressively LOUD, regimented and tuneless.
but you can't really pin it on one band.
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Date: July 28th, 2017 10:17 PM Author: Chest-beating Submissive Ticket Booth
look up their breakthrough single "mudshovel":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuAC9YIC2Bs
they took elements of the grunge aesthetic and basically made it louder, blunter, and more polished at the production stage.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2194688&forum_id=2#33877745) |
Date: February 28th, 2013 5:58 AM Author: bespoke orchestra pit yarmulke
here is some nascent bro-rock from 1998
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONBYpWeqDi0
when i saw this video i knew something was changing. it was no longer rocker-looking guys w/ long hair, but some douchebags in Mossimo shirts singing a song about date rape (i think), and there is even a rap interlude.
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Date: February 28th, 2013 3:55 PM Author: Rusted coldplay fan
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I don't understand
The peak of the Bush era was 2003-2007. Most of the music you guys are talking about was before that.
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Date: February 28th, 2013 4:22 PM Author: balding canary pit crotch
i think we don't like it just because it was popular and on the radio.
do i really wanna listen to some lite-"rock" like vampire weekend instead of something more akin to zeppelin?
no, not really.
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Date: March 1st, 2013 12:38 AM Author: Dun Shaky Becky Theater
Nickelback, POD, Saliva, Godsmack, Hoobastank, Breaking Benjamin, Avenged Sevenfold.
All awful awful bands.
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Date: March 1st, 2013 12:51 AM Author: Dun Shaky Becky Theater
they were one of the better/more talented bro rock bands, but still bro rock.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2194688&forum_id=2#22732786)
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Date: March 1st, 2013 12:53 AM Author: Dun Shaky Becky Theater
bros with tapout shirts, shotgunning natty ice, backwards DC hats,screaming
"not gonna fuckin' bow breh!! not gonna bow!!"
at the FSU sigma chi fraternity hazing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2194688&forum_id=2#22732802) |
Date: July 13th, 2013 2:22 AM Author: dull elastic band
i've been thinking more about bro rock, and the cultural "mood" it accompanied. and i've been thinking about early 2000's infomercials, especially the ones focused on real estate. i think the common thread is faux emotionalism.
bro rock was emotive ersatz for a really disingenuous age. especially after 9/11, there was a brief hysterical kill-them-all impulse, but that faded into confusion rather shortly. so we had one strain of very aggressive, metallic bro rock, but it was also polished and produced to the point where it sounded like a disney song on "hard" mode or something.
this was an obvious act of fakery, but it was consonant with its era, because the prevailing emotional temper itself was faked. this was directly related to our ersatz economy in the form of the real estate bubble of the early 2000's.
we were going through the motions, as it were, of things we believed we were supposed to be doing. iraq was a "going through the motions" kind of war - the country didn't REALLY want it, but when you've been hit, you're SUPPOSED to hit back, right?
the economy felt weird and unstable, but the rising markets informed us that we were SUPPOSED to feel prosperous.
bro rock was a simulation of rock in a very similar way. it's like a paint-by-numbers kind of genre in which the songs held the hand of the listener and directed him very bluntly how to feel during those confusing times.
and it was accepted at the time, since no one seemed to know any better.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2194688&forum_id=2#23605553)
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Date: August 4th, 2013 7:35 PM Author: dull elastic band
i guess one of the big questions is what would bro rock have looked like if the 90's boom years had never ended, 9/11 never took place, and so forth. late 90's bro rock was qualitatively different from the kind of bro rock which came rather quickly afterwards.
my theory is that bro rock as we saw it in the 90's was at least in part an attempt to revive the pre-grunge rock movement typified by GNR and so forth, but using modern accoutrements which fit the spirit of the age. limp bizkit, so far as i am concerned, was its generation's stab at a motley crue or something similar (though significantly shittier).
but after terrorism/economic decline became a more dominant mode in our culture, bro rock wasn't sure how to proceed. so we had a whiplash effect going on between ball-swinging bravado and emo whinery, sometimes within the same song.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2194688&forum_id=2#23780157)
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Date: December 19th, 2013 10:13 PM Author: Dun Shaky Becky Theater
Some might contend bro rock really began pre 911 though, with strong precedents like Creed, early Papa Roach, early 3 Doors Down and even Limp Bizkit/early Linkin Park influencing the movement to an extent.
How much of a catalyst do you think 911 was in sparking bro-rock?
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Date: July 14th, 2013 1:17 AM Author: dull elastic band
here's some classic bro rock in recognition of zimmerman's victory tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdmG0k8S8k
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Date: July 28th, 2017 9:44 PM Author: blathering boltzmann corner
Finger Eleven - Paralyzer
https://youtu.be/BJk6gZuPKRE
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