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1500s Shipwrecked Conquistador Walked Across Mexico Healing Indians

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sable frum preventive strike locus
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wtf, soo obsessed with gold: Slaughtering and eating the...
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Dude was an accountant who just got shipwrecked. Also, he...
glassy supple shrine double fault
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Date: May 24th, 2016 9:54 PM
Author: sable frum preventive strike locus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvar_N%C3%BA%C3%B1ez_Cabeza_de_Vaca

Dude shipwrecked in Galveston Texas, chilled with some Indians for a while, then ran into 2 of his Spanish bros and one of their Moorish black slaves that also survived the wreck. They decided they wanted to get back to Spain together and they knew there was a Spanish outpost somewhere to the West, so they basically walked from Galveston to the Pacific Ocean healing indian bros along the way.

He got so popular as a faith healer guy, that he had a whole horde of indians following him. When they got to the Spanish area, they found some Spanish slavers who were excited about enslaving a bunch of dumbass indians. de Baca stood up for his indian bros and made them promise not to enslave them. He then kicked the Indians out old yeller style where he forced him to leave. The slavers then went back and enslaved the indians anyways. Poor dumb bastards.

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Date: May 25th, 2016 10:29 AM
Author: sable frum preventive strike locus



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Date: May 25th, 2016 10:36 AM
Author: Cracking theater mad cow disease

wtf, soo obsessed with gold:

Slaughtering and eating their remaining horses, they gathered the stirrups, spurs, horseshoes and other metal items. They fashioned a bellows from deer hide to make a fire hot enough to forge tools and nails. They used these in making five primitive boats to use to get to Mexico. Cabeza de Vaca commanded one of these vessels, each of which held 50 men. Depleted of food and water, the men followed the coast westward. But when they reached the mouth of the Mississippi River, the powerful current swept them out into the Gulf, where the five rafts were separated by a hurricane. Some were lost forever, including that of Narváez.

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Date: May 25th, 2016 10:42 AM
Author: sable frum preventive strike locus

Crazy thing is this guy became like a sjw for Indians after this. He got himself appointed to be governor of Bolivia and tries to stop the exploitation of Indians by the Spanish colonists. They ended up accusing him of all kinds of fraud etc and he got recalled to Spain, ended up being sued, losing, then sentenced to exile. Later, the exile was revoked, but he stop died impoverished. The book he wrote about his adventures became a best seller after his death

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Date: May 25th, 2016 10:40 AM
Author: glassy supple shrine double fault

Dude was an accountant who just got shipwrecked.

Also, he became a yuuuge shitlib who wrote some scandalous letters about treatment of the Indians and died broke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3233488&forum_id=2#30554932)



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Date: May 25th, 2016 10:45 AM
Author: sable frum preventive strike locus

Yeah. To be fair, they did save him, then he became a hero by actually healing Indians somehow. He prob had an Indian wife.

Despite this, he still didn't want to live with Indiana only and walked thousands of miles across Mexico just to get away from them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3233488&forum_id=2#30554956)



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Date: May 25th, 2016 11:01 AM
Author: contagious bronze sneaky criminal indian lodge

no shitlib but not sure one has to be a "shitlib" to criticize conquistador treatment of Indians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3233488&forum_id=2#30555092)



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Date: May 25th, 2016 11:25 AM
Author: Khaki institution

CR. The actual shitlib thing is the way modern shitlibs totally ignore bros like Cabeza de Vaca who advocated for better treatment of the Indians.

The interesting thing is that those bros succeeded and the Spanish crown mandated that the Indians be treated humanely. The problem was that governing the New World was like trying to govern Mars so New World lords tended to just ignore laws favoring the Indians and there wasn't much that could be done.

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Date: May 25th, 2016 11:29 AM
Author: sable frum preventive strike locus

Yeah, there was a huge debate in Spain about how the Indians were being treated. The king even put a hold on further conquests for like 6 months until a hearing could be had on whether it was moral to steal the Indians land and destroy their culture.

They were brutal with Indians, but also killed over 50% of them by accident thru smallpox

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3233488&forum_id=2#30555274)



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Date: December 23rd, 2021 12:05 AM
Author: sickened stage ratface

Link to this hearing and conquest moratorium? Fascinating, never heard

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Date: December 23rd, 2021 12:54 AM
Author: sable frum preventive strike locus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valladolid_debate

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The Valladolid debate (1550–1551) was the first moral debate in European history to discuss the rights and treatment of an indigenous people by European colonizers. Held in the Colegio de San Gregorio, in the Spanish city of Valladolid, it was a moral and theological debate about the conquest of the Americas, its justification for the conversion to Catholicism, and more specifically about the relations between the European settlers and the natives of the New World. It consisted of a number of opposing views about the way natives were to be integrated into Spanish society, their conversion to Catholicism, and their rights.

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Spain's colonization and conquest of the Americas inspired an intellectual debate especially regarding the compulsory Christianization of the Indians. Bartolomé de las Casas, a Dominican friar from the School of Salamanca and member of the growing Christian Humanist movement, worked for years to oppose forced conversions and to expose the treatment of natives in the encomiendas.[3] His efforts influenced the papal bull Sublimis Deus of 1537 which established the status of the Indians as rational beings. More significantly, Las Casas was instrumental in the passage of the New Laws (the Laws of the Indies) of 1542, which were designed to end the encomienda system.[4]

Moved by Las Casas and others, in 1550 the King of Spain Charles I ordered further military expansion to cease until the issue was investigated.[4][5] The King assembled a Junta (Jury) of eminent doctors and theologians to hear both sides and to issue a ruling on the controversy.[1] Las Casas represented one side of the debate. His position found some support from the monarchy, which wanted to control the power of the encomenderos. Representing the other side was Juan Ginés de Sepúlveda, whose arguments were used as support by colonists and landowners who benefited from the system.[4]



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Date: December 23rd, 2021 5:09 AM
Author: Splenetic State Legal Warrant



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Date: May 25th, 2016 10:58 AM
Author: Purple swashbuckling hall famous landscape painting

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101529/

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Date: December 22nd, 2021 11:57 PM
Author: sable frum preventive strike locus



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Date: December 23rd, 2021 12:07 AM
Author: shimmering out-of-control stead roast beef

u: respond to “urgent” emails on your phone while your kids open presents christmas morning.

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Date: December 23rd, 2021 7:18 AM
Author: at-the-ready sanctuary



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Date: January 14th, 2022 11:11 PM
Author: sable frum preventive strike locus



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