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Date: October 13th, 2021 7:30 PM Author: submissive trip jew
what is the argument for shutting down payday lenders or putting a cap on interest rates
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Date: October 13th, 2021 7:33 PM Author: sooty boyish half-breed pisswyrm
how "free" the market should be and how "limited" the government should be is a spectrum. most republicans are not extreme libertarians that believe in no government and no regulation. so, they must believe in *some* regulation and *some* government. the question is how much. i also lean gop because i tend to be pro-free market and pro-business. but that doesn't mean i want to get rid of child labor laws or osha.
interest rates seem like a perfectly reasonable thing to regulate. we realized several thousand years ago that usury is sinful and bad. capping it seems reasonable.
the argument about "let the people decide" is flawed. tons of laws are out there specifically to protect ignorant and stupid people. the average person is 100iq and half the pop is dumber than that. these people need to be protected from getting scammed.
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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:11 AM Author: Canary vengeful office
So let me get this straight? If the government tells you to put a piece of cloth over your nose so that you don't spread a deadly disease that is killing almost 2,000 people per day, that's an egregious violation of civil liberties? But it's totally fine for the government to regulate private contracts between two individuals where no one is harmed other than maybe the person who voluntarily signed the contract?
Sorry, but I feel pretty strongly that the government has no business protecting people from themselves. If the government wants to introduce some type of regulation that requires payday lenders to print the interest rate in bold type and tell people exactly how much interest they are paying on their loan, I have no major objection to that. But if someone chooses to take out a payday loan at a 400% interest rate anyway, that's not the government's business.
On a more practical level, if you cap interest rates at 15%, you will make it much harder to get a credit card, which will make it far more difficult for young people to build a credit history. It will also essentially shut out people with bad credit/no credit from the credit market as well as distressed corporations. Are we really doing people a favor if we tell someone with a bankruptcy on their credit report that they can't get a car loan at all rather than allowing them to get a car loan at an 18% interest rate? Sorry, but this is exactly the type of stupid government interference in a free market that conservatives are supposed to oppose.
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Date: October 14th, 2021 10:21 AM Author: sooty boyish half-breed pisswyrm
>Sorry, but I feel pretty strongly that the government has no business protecting people from themselves.
this principal could be used to invalidate anything. why shouldn't i be able to contract myself into indentured servitude for years? why should the fda be telling us what drugs and food are safe?
finance is not unlike medicine or food to a lot of people. you and i can figure out a financial instrument, but we might not be able to evaluate whether a drug is safe or not. a prole can't do either. you talk about them "voluntarily" singing a contract, but whether that choice is real depends on whether there is some actual understanding of what they're agreeing too.
>But if someone chooses to take out a payday loan at a 400% interest rate anyway, that's not the government's business.
guess i just disagree here. even today we don't allow usurious rates. any reasonable person would consider 400% usurious. if you want to say 15% is too low: fine. that's a matter of debate. but pretty much everyone believes *some* cap is good.
>On a more practical level
this is like the whole "oh, we have to extend mortgages to poors with no credit!" and then the price of houses skyrocket and then the market crashes.
some people aren't creditworthy. if they can't get credit at a non-usurious loanshark rate, then they don't deserve credit. they shouldn't be allowed to be exploited just because only predatory lenders will extend them credit.
also, i might be more inclined to agree with you if the banks that took risky bets ever had to realize losses.
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Date: October 13th, 2021 7:53 PM Author: sooty boyish half-breed pisswyrm
it's fucking sick. and corporate neolibs are 100% for it, under the disgusting guise of "well, it's uplifting to those countries!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0&ab_channel=Vox
at least globalization conturds (who are likewise disgusting), are honest about their economic reasoning. libs mask it is being somehow progressive even though is devastating domestically and quasi imperialistic slavery.
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Date: October 14th, 2021 10:29 AM Author: sooty boyish half-breed pisswyrm
we're turning into brazil because of globalization.
we're already turning in favelas. tent camps in san fran delineated from rich gated compounds look just like brazil. you're looking at wealth on a macro level. we are "wealthy", yet the disparity between the rich and poor is approaching gilded age era levels.
oh we're so prosperous that the poor can afford baubles made be those even poorer overseas. but can our middle class comfortably buy property and raise a family off of a single income with a high school education? why are dual income college educated couples struggling to start families today when 50 years ago any single income prole could do it?
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