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Krugman: Uhh our bad about saying globalization would be no big deal to US jobs

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2019-10-10/in...
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Economics as a 'science' is laughable. These people make it...
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the last few paragraphs are absolutely incredible, where he ...
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sad that Ross Perot isn't here to read that. even sadder ...
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Date: October 10th, 2019 11:46 AM
Author: Claret irradiated hominid

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/opinion/articles/2019-10-10/inequality-globalization-and-the-missteps-of-1990s-economics

The pro-globalization consensus of the 1990s, which concluded that trade contributed little to rising inequality, relied on models that asked how the growth of trade had affected the incomes of broad classes of workers, such as those who didn’t go to college. It’s possible, and probably even correct, to think of these models as accurate in the long run. Consensus economists didn’t turn much to analytic methods that focus on workers in particular industries and communities, which would have given a better picture of short-run trends. This was, I now believe, a major mistake — one in which I shared a hand.

It should have been obvious that the politics of globalization were likely to be much more influenced by the experience of individual sectors that gained or lost from shifting trade flows than by big questions of how trade affects the global blue-collar/white-collar wage gap or the broad statistical measure of inequality known as the aggregate Gini coefficient.

This is where the now-famous 2013 analysis of the “China shock” by David Autor, David Dorn and Gordon Hanson comes in. What they mainly did was shift focus from broad questions of global income distribution to the effects of rapid import growth on local labor markets, showing that these effects were large and persistent. This represented a new and important insight.

To make partial excuses for those of us who failed to consider these issues 25 years ago, at the time we had no way to know that either the hyperglobalization that began in the 1990s or the trade-deficit surge a decade later were going to happen. And without the combination of these developments, the China shock would have been much smaller. Still, we missed a crucial part of the story.

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Solution? Just keep the status quo

As a result, major disruptions now would be more likely to come from an attempt to reverse globalization than from leaving the current trade regime in place. At this point, millions of decisions about where to put plants, and where to move and take jobs, have been made on the assumption that the open world trading system will continue. Making that assumption false, by raising tariffs and forcing a contraction of world trade, would set off a whole new wave of disruption along with a whole new set of winners and losers.

So while the 1990s consensus on the effect of globalization hasn’t stood the test of time, its shortcomings don’t make a case for protectionism now. We might have done things differently if we had known what was coming, but that’s not a good reason to turn back the clock.



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Date: October 11th, 2019 9:22 AM
Author: Claret irradiated hominid



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Date: October 11th, 2019 9:26 AM
Author: Harsh charismatic orchestra pit

lmao



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Date: October 11th, 2019 10:27 AM
Author: Tripping step-uncle's house



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Date: October 11th, 2019 9:26 AM
Author: Razzle stag film

oops-globalization haha

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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:36 AM
Author: talented cerise school cafeteria macaca



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Date: October 11th, 2019 9:34 AM
Author: Concupiscible smoky point

> along with a whole new set of winners and losers

Don't reverse globalization, because it might hurt the billionaire class and help the American middle class? Did I read that right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#38961755)



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Date: October 11th, 2019 10:00 AM
Author: Lascivious Copper House Immigrant

"yes you did," said Bush, Clinton, Gore, Bush, Clinton, and Obama.

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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:35 AM
Author: Stirring native juggernaut



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:53 AM
Author: glittery locus



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Date: October 11th, 2019 9:42 AM
Author: Harsh charismatic orchestra pit

Listen, we can't just turn back the clock and go slapping tariffs on China and taking back Nobel Prizes in Economics from NYT commentators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#38961784)



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Date: October 11th, 2019 10:28 AM
Author: Tripping step-uncle's house



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:16 AM
Author: Claret irradiated hominid



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:37 AM
Author: self-absorbed clown stead



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:53 AM
Author: glittery locus



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Date: October 11th, 2019 12:23 PM
Author: Insecure main people



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Date: October 11th, 2019 12:30 PM
Author: crystalline thriller sanctuary



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Date: October 11th, 2019 1:45 PM
Author: soul-stirring ratface home



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Date: August 7th, 2022 2:40 PM
Author: Stirring native juggernaut



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Date: August 7th, 2022 2:48 PM
Author: Bespoke Tank People Who Are Hurt

Perfect summary

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Date: August 7th, 2022 3:07 PM
Author: Honey-headed set giraffe



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Date: November 23rd, 2022 1:16 PM
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Date: November 23rd, 2022 1:18 PM
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Date: October 11th, 2019 10:15 AM
Author: impertinent hideous deer antler menage

When ropes and lampposts?

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Date: October 11th, 2019 12:17 PM
Author: Burgundy provocative ape



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Date: October 11th, 2019 1:42 PM
Author: puce ticket booth



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Date: October 11th, 2019 10:29 AM
Author: Bespoke Tank People Who Are Hurt

This fucking guy is a menace to decent people everywhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#38962015)



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:35 AM
Author: Stirring native juggernaut



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:34 AM
Author: Motley Carmine Regret

Economics as a 'science' is laughable. These people make it the fuck up as they go. Whoever pays the most gets the study to say what they need it to say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#38962355)



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:36 AM
Author: self-absorbed clown stead

"It’s possible, and probably even correct, to think of these models as accurate in the long run. "

HOL YFUCKING SHIT DIE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#38962372)



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:46 AM
Author: Claret irradiated hominid



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: Stirring native juggernaut



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:38 AM
Author: Stirring native juggernaut

the last few paragraphs are absolutely incredible, where he explains that reversing globalization would "not be a good thing" because it would be bad for rich people and good for normal people

these people are so incredibly evil it cannot even be expressed in words

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#38962383)



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:57 AM
Author: snowy rough-skinned plaza



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Date: August 7th, 2022 3:07 PM
Author: Stirring native juggernaut



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Date: August 8th, 2022 10:35 AM
Author: Claret irradiated hominid



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Date: October 11th, 2019 11:54 AM
Author: Lascivious Copper House Immigrant

sad that Ross Perot isn't here to read that.

even sadder that we listened to Al Gore and not Ross Perot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#38962479)



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Date: October 11th, 2019 12:17 PM
Author: Burgundy provocative ape

Gotta stop Global Warming

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Date: October 11th, 2019 12:30 PM
Author: crystalline thriller sanctuary



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Date: October 11th, 2019 12:50 PM
Author: Beady-eyed ocher forum



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Date: October 11th, 2019 1:50 PM
Author: Bespoke Tank People Who Are Hurt



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Date: August 7th, 2022 2:45 PM
Author: ruddy vigorous sex offender



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Date: October 11th, 2019 12:29 PM
Author: crystalline thriller sanctuary

That doesnt say sorry it says "oops we fucked u over, better keep down this road though so u dont fuck us over"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#38962682)



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Date: October 11th, 2019 1:33 PM
Author: Apoplectic Range

Krugman is a chronically wrong, beyond-dishonest shill that it nauseates me to see he still has a platform to propagate his falsehoods let alone the fact that he retains a Nobel prize - especially considering that he’s been wrong so many times the ghost of Nobel shoulda have materialized by now to repossess it from him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#38962989)



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Date: August 7th, 2022 2:40 PM
Author: know-it-all meetinghouse

you know, Krugman isn't that bad of a guy irl...met him at a party once. He's fun once he has a few drinks in him. Did several rounds of jello shots with us. At one point he even got on the dance floor and busted out the worm...everyone was cheering and laughing haha. He still had his blazer on!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#44977337)



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Date: August 7th, 2022 2:42 PM
Author: Exhilarant brindle mental disorder tanning salon

This guy is exceptionally ugly, it kind of explains everything imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#44977347)



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Date: August 7th, 2022 2:45 PM
Author: know-it-all meetinghouse

you know, Krugman isn't that bad of a guy irl...met him at a party once. He's fun once he has a few drinks in him. Did several rounds of jello shots with us. At one point he even got on the dance floor and busted out the worm...everyone was cheering and laughing haha. He still had his blazer on!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#44977362)



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Date: August 8th, 2022 10:49 AM
Author: thirsty toilet seat

I still think the real problem was going all in on the higher Ed scam when we could’ve been expanding trade schools and the like. Maybe then I wouldn’t have to wait four months to get any home repairs done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4360648&forum_id=2#44981473)