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Exeunt tell us how big crypto is going to get in the next 5 years (DTP)

right now bitcoin is $200billion marketcap what's your fu...
Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house
  08/28/20
he doesn't do specific predictions. wouldn't be very "m...
Beady-eyed home
  08/28/20
Maybe if someone didn’t throw a fit about his assuranc...
canary dead dingle berry
  08/28/20
this thread is not about assurances, just to clarify what he...
Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house
  08/28/20
i'm not asking for him to be specific in a "gotcha"...
Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house
  08/28/20
i think aggregate market cap could exceed $1 trillion within...
Spruce Jap
  08/28/20
very shallow analysis crypto *does* deserve its stench of...
Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house
  08/28/20
investing is about making correct predictions. theses should...
Spruce Jap
  08/28/20
"theses should be simple so as to be robust" no...
Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house
  08/28/20
Dtp done here
soul-stirring claret cruise ship
  08/28/20
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Supple nowag hunting ground
  08/28/20
he's really gone off his rocker lately. completely unhinged
Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house
  08/28/20
cr
Spruce Jap
  08/28/20
i didn't say $1 trillion, i said over $1 trillion. you can't...
Spruce Jap
  08/28/20
Next bubble peaks at 4-5 trillion but then crashes to a tiny...
soul-stirring claret cruise ship
  08/28/20
and then the one after that? it'll be $50 trillion right?
Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house
  08/28/20
Ofs
soul-stirring claret cruise ship
  08/28/20
To be fair, I like how this was viewed as "crazy&quo...
wonderful clown
  10/14/23
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Maniacal nursing home
  09/14/20
180
comical orchestra pit
  10/19/20
i think this holds up well
Spruce Jap
  10/16/21
this poast made me resume crypto investment in Sep 2020.
Hideous Topaz Point Laser Beams
  10/17/21
180
Spruce Jap
  10/17/21
this was a 180 analysis
Spruce Jap
  10/14/23
...
Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house
  08/28/20
execunt, could you share us your portfolio breakdown? I r...
comical orchestra pit
  08/28/20
He also likes ftt a lot
soul-stirring claret cruise ship
  08/28/20


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Date: August 28th, 2020 3:39 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house

right now bitcoin is $200billion marketcap

what's your future expectation and why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40830371)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 3:42 PM
Author: Beady-eyed home

he doesn't do specific predictions. wouldn't be very "magical" if he were wrong, so he has to be as vague and mysterious as possible when posting about crypto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40830387)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 3:43 PM
Author: canary dead dingle berry

Maybe if someone didn’t throw a fit about his assurances he’d make complete predictions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40830393)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 3:45 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house

this thread is not about assurances, just to clarify what he's talking about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40830400)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 3:44 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house

i'm not asking for him to be specific in a "gotcha" sort of way, but to explain his reasoning and clarify what he's talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40830397)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 5:18 PM
Author: Spruce Jap

i think aggregate market cap could exceed $1 trillion within five years in the next bubble. give it more than 50% chance.

rationale is simple: demand for crypto has been ratcheting up over time with each bubble. after each bust, the price of BTC (and other cryptos) finds an equilibrium price that is much higher than what prevailed prior to the bubble. for example, prior to the massive pump in 2017, BTC's price was around $1000. after the bubble burst, the price fell to what felt at the time like a catastrophic low of $3500--3.5x the price that prevailed just 2 years before. this is a continuation of a pattern that has occurred at least 3x before.

of course, that begs the question: why would demand for crypto rise over time. this is where most normies and even some very smart investors make a crucial mistake, because they cannot imagine demand for crypto rising over time. they think "dur hur fake money go to zero" and pat themselves on the back during the crashes while having forgone 100x returns.

crypto demand comes from several places:

1) speculative demand, which is to say crypto has value simply because it is an instrument of gambling. lots of assets have speculative demand (e.g. TSLA stock). volatile, lottery-like assets tend to be persistently overpriced because of it. the gambling industry is huge, which is why casinos, horse tracks, robinhood, lotteries, etc. experience in aggregate of hundreds of billions of dollars in flows every year. it is undeniable that crypto has accrued tremendous and durable value simply due to the number of gamblers/speculators entering the ecosystem.

2) ideology. crypto appeals to people who are ideologically opposed to government control and value their privacy. prior to BTC, most of these people--many are kooks--tended to hoard gold, guns, and ammo. now some own BTC.

3) utility. crypto is now liquid enough that you can store and transmit large amounts of value across borders, regardless of government regulations. there is a lot of demand for illicit money and crypto's utility for these purposes has gone up over time because it's now mixed in with "legitimate" speculative activity. five years ago, you'd have trouble cashing out $1m BTC in thailand or whatever due to lack of liquidity/fiat off-ramps; now you can do that fairly easily.

the # of people willing to seriously consider crypto as a legitimate asset to own--even if for gambling purposes--is going up over time as boomers die and young people who have been raised with BTC start to earn more money. also, the longer crypto sticks around, the more liquid it becomes, the more people who were previously resistant will consider it to be a "legitimate" asset to own, which is what we've seen in xo. five years ago, few owned BTC. now many own something.

of course, the processes driving crypto's value upward will eventually find an equilibrium. but given how little penetration and the stench of illegitimacy crypto has, we are likely a long way off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40830905)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 6:44 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house

very shallow analysis

crypto *does* deserve its stench of illegitimacy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40831225)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 6:51 PM
Author: Spruce Jap

investing is about making correct predictions. theses should be simple so as to be robust. in trading/investing, there are two camps: people who want to be "right" and people who want to make money. you fall into the camp of wanting to be "right"--wasting tons of time arguing, spinning verbiage. that's why you've failed to make money, and why crypto tards have made bank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40831260)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 6:55 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house

"theses should be simple so as to be robust"

no, they should be simple enough to state but backed up by in-depth reasoning. yours is on par with a first-year analyst at any of those hedge funds you look down on.

i failed to make money because BTC 4x'd from my entry point, while i was attempting to make 100x gains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40831275)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 7:45 PM
Author: soul-stirring claret cruise ship

Dtp done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40831488)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 9:02 PM
Author: Supple nowag hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40831815)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 9:08 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house

he's really gone off his rocker lately. completely unhinged

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40831847)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 9:30 PM
Author: Spruce Jap

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40831985)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 9:30 PM
Author: Spruce Jap

i didn't say $1 trillion, i said over $1 trillion. you can't put a precise long-term price target on something as volatile as crypto. in one week the price could move 30%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40831993)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 9:33 PM
Author: soul-stirring claret cruise ship

Next bubble peaks at 4-5 trillion but then crashes to a tiny pink 1 trillion, still a good 4x current mkt cap Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40832010)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 9:34 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house

and then the one after that? it'll be $50 trillion right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40832012)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 9:34 PM
Author: soul-stirring claret cruise ship

Ofs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40832015)



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Date: October 14th, 2023 3:57 PM
Author: wonderful clown

To be fair,

I like how this was viewed as "crazy" a few years ago.

Haha yeah, "trillions of dollars," I mean holy shit, that's unfathomable wealth -- money printers just don't just, like, print that sort of money, retard!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#46935732)



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Date: September 14th, 2020 6:07 PM
Author: Maniacal nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40919502)



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Date: October 19th, 2020 12:49 AM
Author: comical orchestra pit

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#41139899)



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Date: October 16th, 2021 11:53 PM
Author: Spruce Jap

i think this holds up well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#43284276)



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Date: October 17th, 2021 1:26 AM
Author: Hideous Topaz Point Laser Beams

this poast made me resume crypto investment in Sep 2020.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#43284516)



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Date: October 17th, 2021 1:34 PM
Author: Spruce Jap

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#43286136)



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Date: October 14th, 2023 3:55 PM
Author: Spruce Jap

this was a 180 analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#46935726)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 8:57 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40831788)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 11:42 PM
Author: comical orchestra pit

execunt, could you share us your portfolio breakdown?

I remember it was something like BTC, ETH, XTZ,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40832593)



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Date: August 28th, 2020 11:43 PM
Author: soul-stirring claret cruise ship

He also likes ftt a lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4613374&forum_id=2#40832596)