"The party is full of lunatics these days."

"No it's not," said the guy with diagnosed mental illness who has been in and out of mental hospitals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410754)

what is happening to this forum?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410185)

May 4, 2021

8:36 PM EDT

Healthcare & Pharmaceuticals

Pfizer sees robust COVID-19 vaccine demand for years, $26 bln in 2021 sales

Michael ErmanManas Mishra

3 minute read

Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) on Tuesday raised its forecast for 2021 COVID-19 vaccine sales by more than 70% to $26 billion and said demand from governments around the world fighting to halt the pandemic could contribute to its growth for years to come.

The company said it expects to file for full U.S. approval of the vaccine in May for people over the age of 16, as it is now only authorized for emergency use. It also expects to hear soon from U.S. regulators on expansion of the vaccine's emergency use authorization (EUA) for children ages 12-15.

Revenue from the vaccine - developed with German partner BioNTech SE - is expected to account for more than one third of Pfizer's sales this year.

The forecast is based on contracts to deliver 1.6 billion vaccine doses this year. The company expects to sign more deals for this year and is in supply talks with several countries for 2022 and beyond.

"Based on what we've seen, we believe that a durable demand for our COVID-19 vaccine – similar to that of the flu vaccines – is a likely outcome," Chief Executive Albert Bourla said.

The two-shot vaccine was Pfizer's top-selling product in the first quarter. Expenses and profit from the vaccine are split 50-50 between Pfizer and BioNTech.

Given persistent infections globally and ongoing discussions with governments, Mizuho analyst Vamil Divan said the 2021 forecast could increase further and spill over to future years.

Daily vaccination rates for adults in the United States are off more than 25% since hitting a peak in mid-April. Authorization in children would expand the vaccine-eligible population by millions of people.

Pfizer said it expects to have safety and efficacy data for children ages 2-to-11 in September, when it plans to ask for further expansion of the EUA for that age group.

The company has also filed new data with U.S. regulators that would allow the vaccine to be stored at standard refrigerator temperatures for up to four weeks, up from five days currently.

Pfizer logo seen outside their building in Manhattan, New York City, New York, U.S., March 2, 2021. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri/File Photo

Pfizer logo seen outside their building in Manhattan, New York City, New York, U.S., March 2, 2021. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri/File Photo

Pfizer and BioNTech aim to produce up to 2.5 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses this year, 900 million of which are not yet included in the New York-based drugmaker's sales forecast.

If Pfizer sells that number of doses at similar prices, the vaccine's sales in 2021 could be more than 50% above the projected $26 billion.

Moderna Inc (MRNA.O) has forecast $18.4 billion in 2021 sales of its similar COVID-19 vaccine.

Pfizer expects to profit from the vaccine, while some drugmakers including Johnson & Johnson (JNJ.N) have said their vaccine will be sold on a not-for-profit basis until the end of the pandemic.

Pfizer aims to manufacture at least 3 billion doses of the vaccine next year. It also expects to have safety and immunogenicity data from a third booster dose of the vaccine in July.

Pfizer and BioNTech have published data showing impressive durability for their vaccine at least six months after vaccination. Still, Bourla said he believes regular boosters will be needed to maintain high levels of immunity, and governments around the world have started signing deals for the shots.

The COVID-19 vaccine generated $3.5 billion in revenue in the first quarter, exceeding analysts' estimates of $3.28 billion, according to Refinitiv data.

Total revenue for the quarter of $14.6 billion, topped analysts' forecasts of $13.5 billion.

It plans to boost R&D spending to fuel drug discovery using the messenger RNA technology in the COVID-19 vaccine. The company is developing two flu vaccines that are expected to enter clinical trials in the third quarter.

Pfizer shares were down slightly in afternoon trading.

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410198)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410207)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410263)

1. The vaccine doesn't actually stop you from getting it, it stops you from having a really bad case.

2. The whole world is never getting vaccinated. So the "it'll mutate unless we vaccinate everyone!" is irrelevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42411555)

For 2, even if 40% of people are immune, it significantly reduces transmission rate. This is not a choice of “herd immunity” or nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42411715)

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/health/covid-vaccinated-infected-wellness/index.html

"Others might not be safe from you

Health officials from Dr. Anthony Fauci on down are cautioning people that no one can dump the the face masks and social distancing behavior just because they've been vaccinated. That's because even people who are themselves immune to the virus might be exposed to it and transmit it to others."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42411835)

This is why a lot of people need to get it and exactly my original point. Reducing transmission in the population is the goal. If everyone around grandma is vaccinated and has a reduced chance of transition, grandma’s personal risk is lower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42411908)

I don't know about 2. I wouldn't underestimate the ability of big pharma to really find a way to ramp up production to make enough for the planet. It might take a year or two but the speed at which they've been able to get about a billion doses into the planet has been absolutely amazing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42411739)

For 2, who is paying for it? And within a year or two it'll mutate a bunch of times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42411843)

is anybody still shocked to learn that the lib press lies through its teeth all the time about what non-libs say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410606)

https://twitter.com/Craig_A_Spencer/status/1390113877128531970?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42411624)

*votes for trump*

Hmm something doesn’t add up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410616)

Your assessment of liars is superficial because it overweight bombastic bullshit and ignores the real dangerous lies: those said cunningly with a specific and targeted goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410742)

Holy moly.

It’s now at 118,000+ #covid vaccine reports. That’s up 32,000 in a week - a 35% rise. Before Covid, VAERS got that many reports in a year.

Just how bad is the backlog?"

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1388151972096839685

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410238)

https://abcnews.go.com/US/obama-era-officials-return-white-house-worth-millions/story?id=76582015

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410247)

the media, gov't, and the DNC-led brainwashed mob are blind to any difference. show any hesitation to inject yourself with an experimental vaccine and you're branded as a dangerous far-right conspiracy theorist who's selfish and doesn't care if people die. that's why if someone (even a lib) poasts on twitter about bad side effects from the vaccine or questions it at all, that person gets shouted down by the mob (things like "this tweet is dangerous! take this down! people are going to see this and not want to get vaccinated! that probably happened to you for some other reason!").

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42410318)

the libs natural instinct as can be seen in this very thread is to immediately ban all wrongthink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42411595)

this is CRUCIAL in explaining these people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42418766)

with that being said, the testing that happens with drugs is complete flame and is almost entirely dependent on methodology and experiment design. its easy as fuck to manipulate the data to get it to say what you want and for the studies to be flawed. noone should ever. usually these problems have to do with the efficacy more than the safety, but there have been so many instances of things happening regarding the safety as well that this shit can't be trusted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42420853)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42416633)

But I also completely believe that the 2020 election was stolen, global warming is questionable at best, CRT will end our country as we know it, and the “undocumented tourists” at the Capitol on Jan 6 shouldn’t be charged with anything more severe than trespassing and maybe vandalism for the worst offenders.

So where’s my tribe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42416723)

So you're gullible/dumb or just have a sps immune system?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42418567)

i don't think there's a "conspiracy." it's just a fact that getting the vaccine would likely be worse for my health than if i didn't get it. it's also a fact that the vaccine has not been tested nearly as much as other vaccines i've taken and based on that fact and widespread reports of severe side effects, i don't feel comfortable taking it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4827636&forum_id=2#42421454)