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Lowest ranked LS where you ASSUME a grad is basically smart/competent

Not necessarily brilliant, obviously but what’s the lo...
'"'""''"''
  06/10/21
“not a total imbecile” is not a high threshold
Richard, from England
  06/10/21
You’d think, but then you get staffed opposite multipl...
'"'""''"''
  06/10/21
lol
Richard, from England
  06/10/21
In law? LOL
Bisexual Talking Roast Beef
  06/10/21
For me, i think the cutoff is PEnn. when you see you’v...
'"'""''"''
  06/10/21
115 is pretty low. Shouldn't Penn people be 130-135 on avera...
guy who gets it
  06/10/21
XO’s extrapolation of what IQ’s “mean&rdqu...
'"'""''"''
  06/10/21
(Penn State Grad) This is true in the V10 and maybe ~V25...
~~~~~~^~~~~~
  06/10/21
scrolling down the US News rankings I got to WUSTL at equal ...
Richard, from England
  06/10/21
whatever school is ranked after the one you went to...
bigeastboy
  06/10/21
chi
I am thinking of aurochs and angels
  06/10/21
Class rank is by far the better predictor. YSH: Top 90 pe...
Bisexual Talking Roast Beef
  06/10/21
Problem is that YS are on balance TTT lawyers bc lack of gra...
~~~~~~^~~~~~
  06/10/21
I agree, but that was not OP's question.
Bisexual Talking Roast Beef
  06/10/21
Ah i see (Reading comp masterman)
~~~~~~^~~~~~
  06/10/21
YSH and to some extent CCN have to be discounted to the exte...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  06/10/21
Chill out Chong
,.,.,..,,,.,..,,.,..,.
  06/10/21
(NYU bottom third tp)
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  06/10/21
...
ralph cifaretto
  06/10/21
you sound jealous these Y bros came out of law school having...
radek bonk
  06/10/21
I think it was the partners at my shit firm who were jealous...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  06/10/21
Sorry that your YLS coworker was busy dreaming of corporate ...
Bisexual Talking Roast Beef
  06/10/21
(TTT grad who can’t read good)
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  06/10/21
(TTTsef that was daydreaming he could get something better w...
radek bonk
  06/10/21
Your ESL is acting up again
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  06/10/21
So I nailed Michigan, huh? Bottom 40 percent?
Bisexual Talking Roast Beef
  06/10/21
Michigan bottom 40 percent is a brutal outcome
~~~~~~^~~~~~
  06/10/21
(CLS grad) Students at CCN are fungible We get it, yo...
~~~~~~^~~~~~
  06/10/21
Outside of T14 it doesn’t really matter. It only matte...
Bountiful
  06/10/21
YLS is the only one. Even HLS admits legit idiots
birdshitlawguru
  06/10/21
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.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,,:..:.,:.::,.
  06/10/21
Misread the question. Penn for someone who “gets&rdquo...
Many clients are saying this!
  06/10/21
there is literally no such thing. the vast majority of grad...
absolutely devastating for board libs
  06/10/21
Useless, yes, but typically not retards. Imo the most impor...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  06/10/21
...
tony bologna
  06/10/21
Thomas Jefferson
penislicker
  06/10/21
Vandy if they are a white or Asian male.
Candy Ride
  06/10/21
Can't be lower than GULC. I know a complete tard from my hig...
jag
  06/10/21
GULC is notoriously the easiest T14 to get into bc if its ma...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  06/10/21
i went to GULC and have a 107 IQ
creampie guy
  06/10/21
T50
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  06/10/21
Virginia
Noobling
  06/10/21
Settle down spaceporn
'"'""''"''
  06/10/21
NONE is apparently the real answer. http://xoxohth.com/th...
birdshitlawguru
  06/10/21
carbozo for dbg
CapTTTainFalcon
  06/10/21
lol none. i went to a good law school, did very well, and im...
vnesheconombank
  06/10/21
I assume we are talking about non-blacks/mexicans/indigenous...
FUTURE DOMINO\'S ASSISTANT MANAGER MASTERMAN
  06/10/21
My nephew! 90th percentile! Wow!
CapTTTainFalcon
  06/10/21
there are blacks at harvard in the low 140s? I always assum...
,.,..,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...:,.,.:..:,.,:.::,.
  06/10/21
I’d imagine there are at least some Tyrones with 149/4...
~~~~~~^~~~~~
  06/10/21
None. Too many diversity admits/legacies at every school
All posts are performance art
  06/10/21


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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:31 AM
Author: '"'""''"''

Not necessarily brilliant, obviously but what’s the lowest baseline school where when you first work with/opposite someone new and you see they went to X law school your initial assumption is “okay, this guy almost certainly ‘gets it’ at some level and will almost definitely not be a total imbecile” ?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42603520)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:35 AM
Author: Richard, from England

“not a total imbecile” is not a high threshold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42603529)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:38 AM
Author: '"'""''"''

You’d think, but then you get staffed opposite multiple “GW” grads on a deal and, BAM! all hell breaks loose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42603540)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:39 AM
Author: Richard, from England

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42603543)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 10:39 AM
Author: Bisexual Talking Roast Beef (How many tattoos do you own?)

In law? LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604127)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:37 AM
Author: '"'""''"''

For me, i think the cutoff is PEnn. when you see you’ve got a SWeet PEnn grad working on your deal team (or opposite you) you can be fairly confident they’re at least 115 IQ and pretty diligent. Obviously there’s exceptions across all demos and those bets are off when it’s a URM but in general I feel I can expect people from PEnn to not be total fucking morons.

Obv there are some good lawyers out of worse schools too, UVA, Mich, etc. but in general I’ve learned you can’t give those types the same benefit of the doubt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42603533)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:40 AM
Author: guy who gets it

115 is pretty low. Shouldn't Penn people be 130-135 on average assuming no URM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42603546)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:46 AM
Author: '"'""''"''

XO’s extrapolation of what IQ’s “mean” or represent is so all over the place. Idk, tbh. Maybe I’m doing my thread a dis-service and risking sidetracking by putting a equating an “IQ” number to what I’m trying to express.

IME PEnn grads and up, both associates younger than me and partners/counsel older than me, seem presumptively competent and capable of doing “biglaw quality” work more often than not. That’s the point I’m driving at, not what actual IQ goes along w it. Tbh I just threw out a number off the cuff w/o really thinking about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42603561)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 10:35 AM
Author: ~~~~~~^~~~~~

(Penn State Grad)

This is true in the V10 and maybe ~V25

V50 to V100 are prob bottom of class PEnn fucktards

Keep in mind 1/4 of their class has LSAT below 164…

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604102)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:37 AM
Author: Richard, from England

scrolling down the US News rankings I got to WUSTL at equal 16th and USC at 19th (as the highest ranked schools where I WOULDN’T necessarily assume competence)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42603534)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 9:53 AM
Author: bigeastboy

whatever school is ranked after the one you went to...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42603843)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 9:54 AM
Author: I am thinking of aurochs and angels

chi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42603850)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 10:38 AM
Author: Bisexual Talking Roast Beef (How many tattoos do you own?)

Class rank is by far the better predictor.

YSH: Top 90 percent

CCN: Top 80 percent

PVBDMN: Top 60 percent

Rest of Top 25: Top 40 percent

Well known Regional Schools: Top 15 percent

Ranked Schools: Top 1-5 percent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604124)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 10:55 AM
Author: ~~~~~~^~~~~~

Problem is that YS are on balance TTT lawyers bc lack of grades and no incentive to grind

They quite literally make up for their shortcomings with the name on their degree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604191)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:00 AM
Author: Bisexual Talking Roast Beef (How many tattoos do you own?)

I agree, but that was not OP's question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604208)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:02 AM
Author: ~~~~~~^~~~~~

Ah i see

(Reading comp masterman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604221)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:27 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


YSH and to some extent CCN have to be discounted to the extent they think they’re too good for biglaw grunt work, which is a different problem, but can still result in a shitty result. I worked at a firm years ago that refused to interview at or hire from YLS bc they had a string of like four 1st years in a row from YLS that were horrendous, not bc they were too dumb but bc they were spending all their time gunning for clerkships and better jobs and then left or got fired after a year. Also CCN is more like Chi - top 90%, Col - top 85%, NYU - top 65%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604361)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:30 AM
Author: ,.,.,..,,,.,..,,.,..,.

Chill out Chong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604379)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:31 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


(NYU bottom third tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604388)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 12:23 PM
Author: ralph cifaretto



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604708)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:36 AM
Author: radek bonk

you sound jealous these Y bros came out of law school having already won the game more than you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604407)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:45 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


I think it was the partners at my shit firm who were jealous. This all happened before my time, but I would be annoyed if I was staffed on a deal with a YLS bro and had to pick up his slack all the time bc he was checked out and expecting to move on to something better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604441)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:48 AM
Author: Bisexual Talking Roast Beef (How many tattoos do you own?)

Sorry that your YLS coworker was busy dreaming of corporate structures so complex your tiny pink Michigan brain can't even comprehend the formation documents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604454)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:49 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


(TTT grad who can’t read good)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604463)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:54 AM
Author: radek bonk

(TTTsef that was daydreaming he could get something better while the checked out partners were pissing off jealous Y grads)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604506)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 12:12 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


Your ESL is acting up again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604638)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 2:32 PM
Author: Bisexual Talking Roast Beef (How many tattoos do you own?)

So I nailed Michigan, huh? Bottom 40 percent?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42605609)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:29 PM
Author: ~~~~~~^~~~~~

Michigan bottom 40 percent is a brutal outcome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42607391)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:00 PM
Author: ~~~~~~^~~~~~

(CLS grad)

Students at CCN are fungible

We get it, you got a >172 LSAT like 90% of this board, congrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42607248)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 10:40 AM
Author: Bountiful

Outside of T14 it doesn’t really matter. It only matters for connections/where you want to work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604136)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:05 AM
Author: birdshitlawguru

YLS is the only one. Even HLS admits legit idiots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604232)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: .,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,,:..:.,:.::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42606247)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:07 AM
Author: Many clients are saying this!

Misread the question. Penn for someone who “gets” it and Vandy for someone who won’t be total dead weight, but I’m not a lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604237)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:08 AM
Author: absolutely devastating for board libs

there is literally no such thing. the vast majority of grads from all law schools are retards. not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604247)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:30 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


Useless, yes, but typically not retards. Imo the most important factor in the career of any Lawyer from a T20 or so school is whether they had people invest in them and teach them how to do shit. It’s possible to figure it all out on your own, but 99% of people will miss stuff and have holes in their game if they don’t eventually find a good lawyer who will bring them along.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604381)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 2:34 PM
Author: tony bologna



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42605624)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:08 AM
Author: penislicker

Thomas Jefferson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604250)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:28 AM
Author: Candy Ride

Vandy if they are a white or Asian male.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604369)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:39 AM
Author: jag

Can't be lower than GULC. I know a complete tard from my high school who got admitted there. I was shocked that someone like him is what passes for a "prestigious" lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604423)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 11:47 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


GULC is notoriously the easiest T14 to get into bc if its massive class sizes and their night school back door. I wouldn’t take bottom 1/4 at GULC over top half at any T25-50 school, but at the point where those are my choices I probably just don’t hire anyone and do all the work myself bc it will be faster and less annoying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604449)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:02 PM
Author: creampie guy

i went to GULC and have a 107 IQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42607256)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 12:00 PM
Author: ;..;.;;;.;;.;.;.;;;.;;;.;.;;;....;.


T50

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604553)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 12:20 PM
Author: Noobling

Virginia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604694)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:09 PM
Author: '"'""''"''

Settle down spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42607301)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 12:38 PM
Author: birdshitlawguru

NONE is apparently the real answer.

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853664&mc=66&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604825)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 12:44 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

carbozo for dbg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42604873)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: vnesheconombank

lol none. i went to a good law school, did very well, and im retarded, lazy and anything but diligent. i assume others are the same for the most part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42605647)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 4:01 PM
Author: FUTURE DOMINO\'S ASSISTANT MANAGER MASTERMAN

I assume we are talking about non-blacks/mexicans/indigenous since there are many 140s/low 150s AA retards at every school in the T14.

If we are talking about the average grad from a law school, I'd say any school where lsat medians are 165+

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42606246)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:01 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

My nephew! 90th percentile! Wow!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42607253)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:05 PM
Author: ,.,..,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...:,.,.:..:,.,:.::,.


there are blacks at harvard in the low 140s? I always assumed most of them were in the low 150s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42607280)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 8:30 PM
Author: ~~~~~~^~~~~~

I’d imagine there are at least some Tyrones with 149/4.0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42607399)



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Date: June 10th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: All posts are performance art

None. Too many diversity admits/legacies at every school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4853758&forum_id=2#42607879)