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SCOTUS rules 9-0 that Philly cant force Catholics to send foster kids to gays

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/19-123_g3bi.pdf
glittery ruby parlor
  06/17/21
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Well-lubricated cuckoldry
  06/17/21
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ivory pit
  06/17/21
was this some standing bullshit?
iridescent fantasy-prone mexican water buffalo
  06/17/21
Pretty much. The court consensus ruling was that the ci...
Thirsty heady crackhouse
  06/17/21
well, the majority is pretty weak, arguing that the contract...
glittery ruby parlor
  06/17/21
It's fucking 9-0 man. Everyone knows where this is going.
Sadistic Contagious Dopamine Therapy
  06/17/21
yes ty but this was a great opportunity to you know address ...
Emerald hideous market
  06/17/21
Barrett and Kav cucked
Well-lubricated cuckoldry
  06/17/21
Gorsuch surprisingly 180 here Alito predictably 180 af bu...
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glittery ruby parlor
  06/17/21
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disturbing mauve half-breed whorehouse
  06/19/21
Hawaii Judge in full Bishop’s Robes, holding gay flag ...
Impressive abnormal site elastic band
  06/17/21
Because Hawaii judge cares sooo much about scotus’s op...
Wonderful Chapel Nibblets
  06/17/21
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Autistic irate spot
  06/17/21
i think it's remanded to be evaluated under a different stan...
Cordovan abusive plaza
  06/17/21
9-0
Sadistic Contagious Dopamine Therapy
  06/17/21
What the case was actually about: http://autoadmit.com/th...
lake cruise ship
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Emerald hideous market
  06/17/21
did no one read this? read Alito and Gorsuch. this is a s...
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Well-lubricated cuckoldry
  06/17/21
fma
ivory pit
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Mark Joseph Stearn as usual had atrocious hot takes on twitt...
Talking blue area
  06/17/21
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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:15 PM
Author: glittery ruby parlor

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/19-123_g3bi.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42644815)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:24 PM
Author: Well-lubricated cuckoldry

180

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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:25 PM
Author: ivory pit

18000000

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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:27 PM
Author: iridescent fantasy-prone mexican water buffalo

was this some standing bullshit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42644882)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:29 PM
Author: Thirsty heady crackhouse

Pretty much.

The court consensus ruling was that the city was mean and that’s why it was reversed

Didn’t overturn the past anti christian court rulings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42644894)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:32 PM
Author: glittery ruby parlor

well, the majority is pretty weak, arguing that the contract for foster services provides for allowing exemptions to the requirement to not discriminate against gay couples, but that the City stated they would never grant an exemption to the Catholic Church so it violates the free exercise clause.

alito argues convincingly in a concurring opinion that the City could just remove the exemption clause and under current SCOTUS precedent, they'd be allowed to exclude the Catholics again because the law is neutral and not targeted against a certain religion. He thus argues they should overrule the 1990 precedent on the matter, rather than kick this can down the road. Unfortunately, Roberts, Barrett and Kuckanaugh believe there is "no need" to re-examine the precedent at this stage since the case can be determined on the free exercise clause alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42644912)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:36 PM
Author: Sadistic Contagious Dopamine Therapy

It's fucking 9-0 man. Everyone knows where this is going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42644929)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 9:39 PM
Author: Emerald hideous market

yes ty but this was a great opportunity to you know address the law not make some microdistinction rendering the decision useless

roberts sucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42646375)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 9:51 PM
Author: Well-lubricated cuckoldry

Barrett and Kav cucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42646430)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 10:04 PM
Author: Emerald hideous market

Gorsuch surprisingly 180 here

Alito predictably 180 af but unexpectedly dropped mind bending novel length scholarship

Thomas blank bumped both

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42646506)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 10:19 PM
Author: glittery ruby parlor



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Date: June 19th, 2021 10:56 PM
Author: disturbing mauve half-breed whorehouse



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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:29 PM
Author: Impressive abnormal site elastic band

Hawaii Judge in full Bishop’s Robes, holding gay flag surfboard: “lemme stop u right there hoss”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42644892)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 9:49 PM
Author: Wonderful Chapel Nibblets

Because Hawaii judge cares sooo much about scotus’s opinion. Worst case, she wastes a year of the defendant’s time and several hundred grand, and then it gets remanded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42646422)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:30 PM
Author: cowardly excitant stag film macaca

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42644896)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 10:28 PM
Author: Autistic irate spot



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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:30 PM
Author: Cordovan abusive plaza

i think it's remanded to be evaluated under a different standard. hawaii judges might still try to bar the Papists from doing what they do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42644897)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:36 PM
Author: Sadistic Contagious Dopamine Therapy

9-0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42644932)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 5:36 PM
Author: lake cruise ship

What the case was actually about:

http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4858893&mc=1&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42644930)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 9:40 PM
Author: Emerald hideous market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42646380)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 9:38 PM
Author: Emerald hideous market

did no one read this?

read Alito and Gorsuch. this is a stupid AF decision. Roberts invented a way (literally, ignored the relevant ordinance and decided a random question of irrelevant PA statutory law real quick just to avoid the issue).

instead of saying “yeah, the state can’t just de-license catholics and invite Pope Francis to come kick all the bigots’ asses” (really what the state said) Roberts decided critical case on some made up bullshit to avoid saying ANYTHING helpful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42646369)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 9:47 PM
Author: Well-lubricated cuckoldry



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Date: June 17th, 2021 10:20 PM
Author: ivory pit

fma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42646649)



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Date: June 17th, 2021 9:42 PM
Author: Talking blue area

Mark Joseph Stearn as usual had atrocious hot takes on twitter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42646387)



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Date: June 18th, 2021 2:18 PM
Author: Cordovan abusive plaza

conserva-heroine says the 9-0 "win" is not a win. fwiw....

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In Philadelphia Foster Care Case, Roberts Supreme Court Refuses To Protect Christians From Persecution

The Philadelphia foster care case represented yet another failure by the high court to definitely end the ongoing governmental targeting of faith-based organizations.

Margot ClevelandBy Margot Cleveland

JUNE 18, 2021

Yesterday, the Supreme Court unanimously held that Philadelphia violated the free exercise rights of Catholic Social Services and two foster parents when the city failed to renew CSS’s contract because the Catholic organization refused to certify same-sex couples as foster parents.

While Thursday’s headlines proclaimed the decision, Fulton v. City of Philadelphia, a victory for religious liberty, in reality it represented yet another failure by the high court to definitely end the ongoing governmental targeting of faith-based organizations.

Here’s the Backstory to the Case

Since 1798, Catholic-affiliated organizations in Philadelphia have provided care to needy and orphaned youth. Until 2018, the legacy continued, with CSS acting as a state-licensed foster care agency for the city. As a foster care agency, CSS reviewed prospective families based on their “ability to provide care, nurturing, and supervision to children,” certifying for the state families it believed qualified.

Then, when a child needed placement in a foster home, Philadelphia’s Department of Human Services would send referrals to the various private foster agencies to determine whether any certified families were available. If so, the department would then place the child in the home of what it believed “the most suitable family.”

As the Supreme Court explained in its Thursday opinion, “CSS believes that ‘marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman,’” and “[b]ecause the agency understands the certification of prospective foster families to be an endorsement of their relationships, it will not certify unmarried couples—regardless of their sexual orientation—or same-sex married couples.” CSS, however, will certify gay or lesbian individuals as single foster parents and the agency places gay and lesbian children in foster homes.

For more than 50 years, CSS held these beliefs and successfully placed countless children with foster families. Also, during this time, not one same-sex couple sought certification from CSS, but had one, CSS would have directed the couple to one of the more than 20 other agencies in the Philadelphia that certified same-sex couples.

Nonetheless, in 2018, after a newspaper ran a story quoting a spokesperson for the Archdiocese of Philadelphia saying that CSS would not certify same-sex couples as foster parents, the city took issue with CSS’s beliefs. Things came to a head when the commissioner of the Department of Human Services met with leaders at CSS. At that meeting, the commissioner proclaimed that “Things have changed since 100 years ago,” and, “It would be great if we followed the teachings of Pope Francis, the voice of the Catholic Church.”

Immediately after the meeting, the department stopped referring children to CSS, then later refused to renewal its contract with the agency. CSS and three foster parents assisted by the Catholic organization sued, alleging violations of their free speech and free exercise rights. The plaintiffs also sought an injunction to prevent Philadelphia from excluding CSS from the foster care system pending resolution of the litigation.

Banned from Helping Desperate Kids For Three Years

Both the district court and the Third Circuit Court of Appeals rejected CSS and the foster parents’ constitutional claims and denied them injunctive relief pending appeal to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court likewise refused to put on hold Philadelphia’s decision banning CSS from participating as a foster care agency, meaning that since the inception of this litigation, CSS and the foster parents certified by that agency have been unable to assist children in the Department of Human Service’s custody.

Yesterday, the Supreme Court reversed the Third Circuit’s decision, with all nine justices agreeing that the city violated the Free Exercise Clause of the U.S. Constitution. While a win on paper, the “decision might as well be written on the dissolving paper sold in magic shops,” as Justice Samuel Alito noted in his concurrence to the court’s decision.

Chief Justice John Roberts authored the majority opinion in Fulton, of which Justice Alito, joined by Justices Neil Gorsuch and Clarence Thomas, complained—rightly so, as we will soon see.

The Supreme Court Failed to Uphold the Constitution

The majority began simply enough by quoting the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment, “Congress shall make no law . . . prohibiting the free exercise” of religion, before laying out the currently controlling free exercise standard established in Employment Division, Department of Human Resources of Oregon v. Smith. Under Smith, laws that “incidentally burden[] religion” survive constitutional scrutiny “so long as they are neutral and generally applicable.”

After noting that the “[g]overnment fails to act neutrally when it proceeds in a manner intolerant of religious beliefs or restricts practices because of their religious nature,” Justice Roberts sidestepped the question of whether Philadelphia acted intolerantly of CSS’s religious beliefs—say, by telling the Catholics at CSS that “things have changed since 100 years ago,” and “it would be great if we followed the teachings of Pope Francis, the voice of the Catholic Church”—finding instead Philadelphia’s decision banning CSS from the foster program failed the “generally applicable” prong of Smith.

Here, Justice Roberts, writing for the court, explained that “a law is not generally applicable if it invites the government to consider the particular reasons for a person’s conduct by providing a mechanism for individualized exemptions.” The majority then quoted section 3.21 of the foster care contract that the city used to justify ending its contractual relationship with CSS:

Rejection of Referral. Provider shall not reject a child or family including, but not limited to, . . . prospective foster or adoptive parents, for Services based upon . . . their . . . sexual orientation . . . unless an exception is granted by the Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee, in his/her sole discretion.

Because Section 3.21 granted the commissioner (or his designee), the discretion to exempt an organization from the mandate of certifying same-sex couples as foster parents, the Supreme Court concluded the law was not generally applicable under Smith.

To withstand the plaintiffs’ free exercise challenge, then, Philadelphia needed to establish the rule served a compelling governmental purpose and it was narrowly tailored to achieve that interest. After analyzing Philadelphia’s purported justifications for requiring CSC to certify same-sex couples, the Supreme Court held the city could not satisfy this “strict scrutiny standard.” Accordingly, the court held the city violated CSC and the foster parents’ free exercise rights.

Allowing Government Persecution of Christians

But, as Justice Alito stressed in his dissent, there is an easy way around the court’s decision: eliminate the Section 3.21 exemption—an exemption the city never used. “If it does that, then, voilà, today’s decision will vanish—and the parties will be back where they started,” Alito explained.

And he is right. The case of Jack Phillips from Masterpiece Cakeshop proves the point. Justice Gorsuch highlighted this in his separate concurrence, which Justices Alito and Thomas also joined.

“After being forced to litigate all the way to the Supreme Court, we ruled for him on narrow grounds similar to those the majority invokes today,” Justice Gorsuch wrote. Specifically, in that case, “because certain government officials responsible for deciding Mr. Phillips’s compliance with a local public accommodations law uttered statements exhibiting hostility to his religion, the Court held, those officials failed to act ‘neutrally’ under Smith.”

However, “with Smith still on the books,” Justice Gorsuch added, “all that victory assured Mr. Phillips was a new round of litigation—with officials now presumably more careful about admitting their motives.” That is precisely what Phillips faces now, being fined and again hauled into court for refusing to craft a “gender transition cake.”

The time has long since passed for the high court to overturn Smith, and Justices Gorsuch and Alito’s concurrences, which Thomas joined, lay bare that reality. So, while yesterday’s decision was a win for CSC, it was not a victory for religious liberty.

Margot Cleveland is a senior contributor to The Federalist. Cleveland served nearly 25 years as a permanent law clerk to a federal appellate judge and is a former full-time faculty member and adjunct instructor at the college of business at the University of Notre Dame. The views expressed here are those of Cleveland in her private capacity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4859202&forum_id=2#42649913)