82% of pregnant women who took mRNA vaccine had miscarriage (link)
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Date: June 30th, 2021 2:13 PM Author: vigorous impertinent abode gunner
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/huge-red-flag-medical-researchers-bury-data-showing-82-miscarriage-rate-in-vaccinated-women
WALTHAM, Massachusetts, June 30, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — A medical journal discovered that 82% of women who took an mRNA vaccine in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy had a miscarriage — and then it then buried the data.
In mid-June the New England Journal of Medicine published a study called “Preliminary FIndings of mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Pregnant Persons” by Tom T. Shimabukuro and others from the Center of Disease Control’s “v-safe COVID-10 Pregnancy Registry Team.” The team wrote that there were “no obvious safety signals among pregnant [women] who received Covid-19 vaccines” even though it published a table which showed that 82% of women in the study who were injected with either the Pfizer or the Moderna vaccine during early pregnancy lost their babies. More prominent in their study was a claim that only 13.9% of all “completed pregnancies” had ended in miscarriage — but this figure included the women who were not vaccinated until they were in the second half of their pregnancies.
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The significance of the buried information was not lost on British oncologist Dr. Carmen Wheatley, who shared her information with LifeSiteNews. Having at first found the conclusions of the study’s abstract “reassuring,” Wheatley went on to discover "Table 4” and the fine print under it.
“The researchers inexplicably subsumed the first trimester spontaneous abortions — before, and including, 20 weeks — into the completed pregnancy/losses as a whole—104 [miscarriages] out of 827 pregnancies,” she wrote to two leading British doctors, Dr. Peter Rabey, the medical director of the UK’s Channel Island of Guernsey, and Dr. Nicola Brink, Guernsey’s director of Public Health.
“However, since the aim was to discover whether Covid vaccination had any adverse effects in the different trimesters, the NEJM papers’ authors should have deducted the 700 women who were not actually vaccinated until the third trimester from the total 827, leaving only those vaccinated in the first 20 weeks, i.e. 127 women to figure in that part of Table 4.”
Wheatley pointed out that the “real rate” of spontaneous miscarriages among women vaccinated in the first 20 weeks of their pregnancy was not 12.6% but 82% because 104 of these 127 pregnancies were lost. She highlighted the “small print” in the study that stated that a “total of 700 participants (84.6) received their first eligible dose in the third trimester” and that a “total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation.”
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“So the evidence is actually there in the NEJM study, but completely misrepresented in the way the data was presented in general,” Wheatley stated.
The oncologist went on to say that the first trimester norm for miscarriages without vaccination, before COVID-19 began to spread, was reportedly between 10 to 26%. The incidence of 82% of pregnancies of women vaccinated in their first 20 weeks ending in miscarriage was thus “a more than 3-fold increased incidence of spontaneous abortions directly linked to the mRNA vaccines,” Wheatley wrote.
“So, yes, there is a huge red flag [against] vaccinating pregnant women here.”
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LifeSiteNews was contacted by another medical professional who confirmed that the claims in the NEJM article were inaccurate. The reader, who described herself as a teacher of medical research, said she had read the article herself and could verify that the results claiming that only a small percentage of vaccinated women had miscarriages were inaccurate.
“It is clearly a lie and obvious to almost anyone,” she wrote and pointed out the same discrepancies noted by Dr. Wheatley: the researchers had stated there were only 104 miscarriages among 827 pregnant women who had received a COVID vaccine, but reported only in a footnote that 700 of the pregnant women had received the shot after 28 weeks. Losing a baby after 20 weeks is not considered suffering a miscarriage but a still birth, she stated.
“Assuming that the remaining 127 women were before 20 weeks pregnant, that leaves an 82% miscarriage rate (104 out of 127)," our source continued.
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She likened this study, which lumped in pregnant women vaccinated in the first 20 weeks and ones vaccinated after 28 weeks to a hypothetical one examining the incidence of pregnancy in women and men.
“It is like saying that there were 700 men and 127 women studied and only a small percent got pregnant,” she said.
“Well, from the start 700 could not have gotten pregnant in the first place.”
Our source concluded with a plea: “Please get this information out there.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711381) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 2:15 PM Author: trip stage
i feel like every day, the news related to these vaccines gets worse and worse
if you've had your Pfizer injection, that's great. you do you.
but don't push this shit on the rest of us who are just waiting for you guys to keel over.
thanks
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711388) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 2:31 PM Author: trip stage
the honest answer is "we don't know." actually, the answer is probably no one knows. the only thing we have to go off is the VAERS database, which currently has a backlog, and which most agree is underreported
already though close to 6k deaths from the vaccine according to the database. no other vaccine has had this many deaths. if any vaccine had close to this # of adverse effects, it would have been promptly taken off the market.
they are getting away with this because the vaccine is under emergency use authorization, i believe
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711525) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 2:30 PM Author: up-to-no-good fortuitous meteor
this is complete bullshit
but if it were true, we should be delighted that shitlibs who love the vaccine are not reproducing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711509) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 2:44 PM Author: Provocative Forum
Have you considered the possibility that the Mayo Clinic is in on this?
If you look at that same page on the WayBackMachine for November 2019 it says that "the base rate of miscarriage is 1-2%"
THERE TRYING TO KILL THE HUMAN SPECIES WHY WON'T ANYONE DO SOMETHING??
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711585) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 3:03 PM Author: coral stock car old irish cottage
They're comparing apples to oranges.
1. All women in the data set were vaxxed.
2. 700 were vaxxed in the third trimester.
3. 96 miscarriages occurred in the first trimester.
4. If all the women who miscarried in the first trimester were vaxed, then the relevant calculation is 96/127.
They need to compare the miscarriage rate for moms who were not vaxxed (which, like you say, ought to be 10-20 percent) to moms who were vaxxed in the first trimester. Without further clarification, the data does show 82 percent miscarriages for first trimester vaxxed women, or 4-8 times the rate you would expect.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711711) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 2:40 PM Author: Provocative Forum
"About 10 to 20 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage."
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pregnancy-loss-miscarriage/symptoms-causes/syc-20354298
"Among 3958 participants enrolled in the v-safe pregnancy registry, 827 had a completed pregnancy, of which 115 (13.9%) resulted in a pregnancy loss"
OMG NO, THE VACCINES!! THE MISCARRIAGE RATE WENT FROM 10-20% TO 13.9%. WHEN WILL THE MEDIA REPORT THIS??
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711568) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: Provocative Forum
"our source" can't interpret data any better than xo can.
I recognize that this data is hard to understand, but the issue is that this is reporting only "completed pregnancies," the definition of which is live birth, still birth, or miscarriage.
The sample period was Feb-March of 2021, so the proportion of vaxxed ladies who didn't have a miscarriage aren't yet counted in the group of "completed pregnancies."
Do you seriously expect that Tom T. Shimabukuro, M.D.,corresponding author Shin Y. Kim, M.P.H., Tanya R. Myers, Ph.D., Pedro L. Moro, M.D., Titilope Oduyebo, M.D., Lakshmi Panagiotakopoulos, M.D., Paige L. Marquez, M.S.P.H., Christine K. Olson, M.D., Ruiling Liu, Ph.D., Karen T. Chang, Ph.D., Sascha R. Ellington, Ph.D., Veronica K. Burkel, M.P.H., Ashley N. Smoots, M.P.H., Caitlin J. Green, M.P.H., Charles Licata, Ph.D., Bicheng C. Zhang, M.S., Meghna Alimchandani, M.D., Adamma Mba-Jonas, M.D., Stacey W. Martin, M.S., Julianne M. Gee, M.P.H., and Dana M. Meaney-Delman, M.D. all failed to understand a key issue that only the keen minds of xoxo.com have detected?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711808) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 2:50 PM Author: Provocative Forum
ROFL, did you?
Table 4 very clearly shows that the "Published Incidence" of miscarriage is 10-26%, and that the miscarriage rate of the vaxxed ladies was 12.6%
What anomaly are you seeing? If anything, this suggests that vaxxing decreases the normal rate of miscarriage (but that's almost certainly explained by the fact that the vaxxed ladies have better health than the average population in general)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711630) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 2:43 PM Author: Know-it-all hell son of senegal
that's not the math, retard
Data on pregnancy loss are based on 827 participants in the v-safe pregnancy registry who received an mRNA Covid-19 vaccine (BNT162b2 [Pfizer–BioNTech] or mRNA-1273 [Moderna]) from December 14, 2020, to February 28, 2021, and who reported a completed pregnancy. A total of 700 participants (84.6%) received their first eligible dose in the third trimester. Data on neonatal outcomes are based on 724 live-born infants, including 12 sets of multiples.
A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation.
therefore
“since the aim was to discover whether Covid vaccination had any adverse effects in the different trimesters, the NEJM papers’ authors should have deducted the 700 women who were not actually vaccinated until the third trimester from the total 827, leaving only those vaccinated in the first 20 weeks, i.e. 127 women to figure in that part of Table 4.”
Wheatley pointed out that the “real rate” of spontaneous miscarriages among women vaccinated in the first 20 weeks of their pregnancy was not 12.6% but 82% because 104 of these 127 pregnancies were lost. She highlighted the “small print” in the study that stated that a “total of 700 participants (84.6) received their first eligible dose in the third trimester” and that a “total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711579)
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Date: June 30th, 2021 3:17 PM Author: Provocative Forum
I want to urge both of you to read the following for comprehension before further replying:
The issue is that this is reporting only "completed pregnancies," the definition of which is live birth, still birth, or miscarriage.
The sample period was Feb-March of 2021, so the proportion of vaxxed ladies who didn't have a miscarriage aren't yet counted in the group of "completed pregnancies."
Do you seriously expect that Tom T. Shimabukuro, M.D.,corresponding author Shin Y. Kim, M.P.H., Tanya R. Myers, Ph.D., Pedro L. Moro, M.D., Titilope Oduyebo, M.D., Lakshmi Panagiotakopoulos, M.D., Paige L. Marquez, M.S.P.H., Christine K. Olson, M.D., Ruiling Liu, Ph.D., Karen T. Chang, Ph.D., Sascha R. Ellington, Ph.D., Veronica K. Burkel, M.P.H., Ashley N. Smoots, M.P.H., Caitlin J. Green, M.P.H., Charles Licata, Ph.D., Bicheng C. Zhang, M.S., Meghna Alimchandani, M.D., Adamma Mba-Jonas, M.D., Stacey W. Martin, M.S., Julianne M. Gee, M.P.H., and Dana M. Meaney-Delman, M.D.
all failed to understand a key issue that only the keen minds of xoxo.com and lifesitenews.com have detected?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711824) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 3:25 PM Author: Soul-stirring deer antler
have you ever authord a top-tier scientific journal article? i have. we would routinely have 20-40 co-authors, only two or (at most) 3 of whom actually read the whole article before submission.
many of the authors only contribute low-level lab work such as culturing specimens, recruiting volunteers, designing the machines used for testing samples, running the statistical significance tests, etc
also, the sample period was December 14, 2020, to February 28, 2021.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711869) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: Provocative Forum
xo outwitted "the scientists" yet again?
Or xo failed to perceive that the 827 reports are only of "completed pregnancies"?
Which do you think is more likely?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711883) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 3:33 PM Author: Soul-stirring deer antler
shit, EPAH, now i think you're right. the operative word is 'completed' here. but they never should've created that misleading table in the first place. their study tells us nothing about the true miscarriage rates for vaccinated pregnant women.
"Whereas some pregnancies with vaccination in the first and
early second trimester have been completed, the majority are ongoing, and a direct comparison of outcomes on the basis of timing of vaccination is needed to define the proportion of spontaneous abortions in this cohort. Because of sample-size constraints, both pregnancy and neonatal outcomes were calculated as a proportion instead of a rate."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711913) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 5:45 PM Author: opaque trust fund
the authors, while dishonest and afraid of ending their careers by being labelled anti-vax, are not dumb like EPAH and actually noticed what is happening
thats why they have quietly put this little alert into the conclusions of the study:
"more longitudinal follow-up, including follow-up of large numbers of women vaccinated earlier in pregnancy, is necessary to inform maternal, pregnancy, and infant outcomes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42712760)
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Date: June 30th, 2021 2:52 PM Author: coral stock car old irish cottage
No, it appears their math is correct. 700 of the 827 were vaxxed in the third trimester. Obviously the moms with miscarriages in the first trimester were not vaxxed in the third trimester.
But you're right that out of a population of 827, the miscarriage rate is not out of norm. So they do need to clarify.
What they don't have is a study of moms were vaxxed in the first trimester compared to moms who weren't vaxxed in the first trimester.
If the non-vaxxed moms stuck to the 13 percent miscarriage rate you would expect, but the vaxxed moms really are 82 percent, then I think it would be obvious this vaccine is not safe for first trimester babies.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711644)
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Date: June 30th, 2021 2:56 PM Author: Provocative Forum
"Conclusions
Preliminary findings did not show obvious safety signals among pregnant persons who received mRNA Covid-19 vaccines."
xo: "These stupid scientists didn't understand their own data! Applying the same diligence we apply to our day jobs as HVAC techs, we've discovered their error!!"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711679) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 3:09 PM Author: coral stock car old irish cottage
Bro, I came into this thread and dug into the data so I could show XO how fucking stupid they were and how little they understood the data.
But when I dug in I realized my initial (emotional) reaction was wrong. The pro-lifers and XO reactionaries are right based on what we know from the study.
Maybe there's some clarification or missing information that would paint a better picture, but the published data strongly suggests women with first-trimester vaccinations are 4-8 times more likely to miscarry than women who don't get vaccinated.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711758) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 2:51 PM Author: trip stage
i was suspicious of these vaccines back in early 2020 when it was revealed the vax manufacturers would receive full liability protection
not to mention the history these companies have of lying about study results (pfizer, merck is another notorious one though obviously they dropped out of the race) and false marketing claims
big pharma does not give a shit about you, folks. how so many have blindly placed their trust in these companies is one of the most astonishing things i've ever witnessed in my life.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711631) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 3:18 PM Author: iridescent blood rage
EPAH is good enough and reading and pointing out where people misrepresent data to draw their own conclusions (and he cites the conclusions drawn from the study as evidence xo is misrepresenting things).
The problem is that is not incapable of reviewing the data and forming his own conclusions or noticing problems in the data or methodology.
Which goes to show that you dont have to be able to think critically to make a lot of money in a white collar profession...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711829) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 3:21 PM Author: Provocative Forum
"We at xo discovered a fatal flaw that Tom T. Shimabukuro, M.D.,corresponding author Shin Y. Kim, M.P.H., Tanya R. Myers, Ph.D., Pedro L. Moro, M.D., Titilope Oduyebo, M.D., Lakshmi Panagiotakopoulos, M.D., Paige L. Marquez, M.S.P.H., Christine K. Olson, M.D., Ruiling Liu, Ph.D., Karen T. Chang, Ph.D., Sascha R. Ellington, Ph.D., Veronica K. Burkel, M.P.H., Ashley N. Smoots, M.P.H., Caitlin J. Green, M.P.H., Charles Licata, Ph.D., Bicheng C. Zhang, M.S., Meghna Alimchandani, M.D., Adamma Mba-Jonas, M.D., Stacey W. Martin, M.S., Julianne M. Gee, M.P.H., and Dana M. Meaney-Delman, M.D. overlooked!!"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711847) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: iridescent blood rage
stop being lazy. If you have a point make it.
Or I can make it for you.
If the study size of vaccinated pregnant women is actually 3,000 and 827 of them have reported completed pregnancies, you make be right.
Otherwise you are not.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711860) |
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Date: June 30th, 2021 4:42 PM Author: Alcoholic point pisswyrm
To be fair,
*Next thread*
"Oh look, a mindless appeal to authority! Maybe someday you conturds will go to graduate school and learn about 'logical fallacies'..."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42712419) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 3:36 PM Author: henna territorial double fault
this is now a totalitarian state
'science', the 'press', are just channels for dispensing state lies
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711928) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 3:43 PM Author: Electric French Chef Keepsake Machete
almost as effective as using condoms
gona start goign raw in vacianted chicks ty op
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42711971) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 4:14 PM Author: titillating orchestra pit
Big Tech and the Abortion Industry want to silence us. Fight back today!
(op is everyone's fwd fwd fwd vicodin aunt)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42712182) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 4:22 PM Author: up-to-no-good fortuitous meteor
i am totally with the xo distrust of science (of the "i love science" sort) and biased science policy. but do a bit of homework. and be suspicious of the ability of an innumerate clown like dorothy cummings mclean to interpret data accurately and faithfully
https://www.lifesitenews.com/author/dorothy-cummings-mclean
Dorothy Cummings McLean is a Canadian journalist, essayist, and novelist. She earned an M.A. in English Literature from the University of Toronto and an M.Div./S.T.B. from Toronto’s Regis College. She was a columnist for the Toronto Catholic Register for nine years and regularly contributes to Catholic World Report. Her first book, Seraphic Singles, was published by Novalis (2010) in Canada, Liguori in the USA, and Homo Dei in Poland. Her second, Ceremony of Innocence, was published by Ignatius Press (2013). Dorothy lives near Edinburgh, Scotland with her husband.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42712249) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 4:53 PM Author: shaky charcoal resort marketing idea
"LifeSiteNews has been permanently banned on YouTube"
i like how they state this in the first line as a point of pride
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42712485) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 7:04 PM Author: plum at-the-ready giraffe
Honestly know someone who had a horrific miscarriage a few weeks ago. Then a week later I heard about how the spike proteins affect cell tissue made me wonder if it was due to the vaccine.
The fucked up thing is I don't think we'd ever get an honest answer on this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42713125) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 7:34 PM Author: mewling queen of the night
Great showing xo.
Shit is still poison.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42713273) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 8:45 PM Author: Obsidian Sanctuary
lol @ xoxo. No, this is not correct.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42713619)
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Date: June 30th, 2021 9:45 PM Author: Ruby maniacal partner lay
827 had a completed pregnancy, of which 115 (13.9%) resulted in a pregnancy loss and 712 (86.1%) resulted in a live birth
Does this mean that the other 3000ish are still pregnant?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42713937) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 11:35 PM Author: Bipolar Hot Nursing Home
Lmao why did this thread trigger the shit outta EPAH?
Seems like he's in the fight of his life ITT to own the cons with FACTS and LOGIC and RATIONALITY. Too bad he didn't apply that same cool analysis to not doing Dr. Mengele-tier experimentation on his own children and corrupting them forever!
Just remember the guy lecturing you about stats ITT unironically believes his two male children are really women because NPR/NYT/Wapo/CNN told him so and they wear dresses and he utterly abdicated his fatherly duties to them by allowing them to be chemically neutered and forever ruined. But yeah, I trust his trenchant analysis on the vaccine!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42714498) |
Date: June 30th, 2021 11:37 PM Author: bisexual affirmative action location
Huge EPAH hater and anti vaxmo here but he just exposed a big portion of xoers as morons.
Anyone who isn't skeptical of the 82% number on its face given the huge population of vaccinated people out there is numerically illiterate and no better than all the fraud journalists and public health experts that got us here in the first place.
Also the outer above should be publicly castrated.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4868542&forum_id=2#42714506) |
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