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Lowest IQ tell: thinking car dealerships should be replaced with Tesla-style

Ordering directly from the manufacturer.
boyish theater
  08/01/21
Any new car should be purchased at Costco
Exhilarant Lay Milk
  08/01/21
Costco just sends you to dealers. What is the benefit?
shivering locale cuck
  08/01/21
Excellent return policy
Exhilarant Lay Milk
  08/02/21
super high IQ tell actually
Rose bossy garrison
  08/01/21
There was a study from over a decade ago that predicted it w...
Jade pit
  08/01/21
You’re assuming Tesla would sell for the same price at...
boyish theater
  08/01/21
I didn't interpret "Tesla-style" as referring to s...
Jade pit
  08/01/21
You’re not worried about MSRP? It won’t be like ...
boyish theater
  08/01/21
Why do you sound like upset jew and why are you obsessed wit...
Charismatic Drunken Cumskin
  08/01/21
Less places to purchase and service your car and *why that's...
boyish theater
  08/01/21
To be fair, (Brilliant and high IQ genius who only ever t...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
Great retort, go ahead and take your best shot responding to...
boyish theater
  08/01/21
To be fair, Sorry you're too low IQ to merit any more sub...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
that's what i thought you bitchmade faggot
boyish theater
  08/01/21
To be fair, "Jokes on you, I didn't even read your l...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
Were manufacturers to take over the role of dealers, that wo...
Jade pit
  08/02/21
Cash flow issues? You would 100% pay for a car upfront in...
racy crawly degenerate range
  08/02/21
i bet you bought your mattress from a "store" too,...
Rose bossy garrison
  08/01/21
...
Blue hairraiser wagecucks
  08/01/21
cr question the dealership would be way more effective a...
up-to-no-good burgundy becky
  08/01/21
(Guy buying $90 buckets of protein at GNC and $50 HDMI cable...
Amber cruise ship
  08/01/21
(Guy with an embarrassingly low iq)
boyish theater
  08/01/21
You got pwned
nubile exciting idiot
  08/01/21
Shut the fuck up faggot and lick my balls.
boyish theater
  08/01/21
If I May, grow a beard
nubile exciting idiot
  08/01/21
...
Flushed stag film black woman
  08/01/21
Absolutely devastating
nubile exciting idiot
  08/01/21
...
cracking liquid oxygen
  08/01/21
it's worse than that–imagine that only BestBuy could s...
Flushed stag film black woman
  08/01/21
$149 Apple HDMI Cable
Rose bossy garrison
  08/01/21
cr
Flushed stag film black woman
  08/01/21
...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
...
racy crawly degenerate range
  08/02/21
(salesman at a car dealership)
Dull Step-uncle's House
  08/01/21
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aqua alpha
  08/01/21
Saturn was destroyed by the 2008 (((crisis))). While their ...
house-broken provocative den
  08/01/21
car buying would be so much more pleasant not having to deal...
Peach Kitchen
  08/01/21
You sound like the type of guy who tips his REALTOR and talk...
obsidian trailer park cuckold
  08/01/21
...
nubile exciting idiot
  08/01/21
...
Flushed stag film black woman
  08/01/21
...
Peach Kitchen
  08/01/21
Best argument for dealers is local employment Best agains...
Maize Whorehouse Death Wish
  08/01/21
Huh? So it's good to employ car sales people in pointless j...
obsidian trailer park cuckold
  08/01/21
...
nubile exciting idiot
  08/01/21
95% of jobs are pointless. Don’t know what the answer ...
Maize Whorehouse Death Wish
  08/01/21
ive never understood how you really get around the whole dea...
impressive fanboi
  08/01/21
The same way a variety of other retailers sell their own pro...
Jade pit
  08/02/21
To be fair, Damn, according to "Paralegal Mohammed&q...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
Take your meds
boyish theater
  08/01/21
To be fair, Devastating. Just don't call me "Clai...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
Try to be less of a catty faggot I know it's hard for u
boyish theater
  08/01/21
To be fair, Says the cool and chill guy spending his week...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
a) not megapoasting, checking in every few hours b) i ow...
boyish theater
  08/01/21
To be fair, Oh sorry for accusing you of megapoasting, de...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
...
Flushed stag film black woman
  08/01/21
That's 100% how it should work. The dealership experience i...
aqua alpha
  08/01/21
Dealerships add basically nothing to the purchase price of a...
soul-stirring laser beams ticket booth
  08/01/21
"Dealerships ensure the manufacturers sells parts not j...
aqua alpha
  08/01/21
Finally a reasonable voice and it’s fucking valen lmao...
boyish theater
  08/01/21
Date: August 1st, 2021 3:38 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad ...
Flushed stag film black woman
  08/01/21
This should cause you to rethink your position here.
aqua alpha
  08/01/21
To be fair, Right up there with the LTM "totally cre...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
Yeah I'm the retard while you're in the untenable position o...
boyish theater
  08/01/21
Plus their supply chain is still shit. There are scores of Y...
soul-stirring laser beams ticket booth
  08/01/21
Yep or when you purchase a car and it tells you 3 months, th...
boyish theater
  08/01/21
To be fair, "Why it's actually a BAD thing that peop...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
TBF people are idiots and follow the herd. Most Tesla buyers...
soul-stirring laser beams ticket booth
  08/01/21
To be fair, 1. That's legitimately untrue re Tesla buyers...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
A national act that bars states from requiring dealership sa...
Jade pit
  08/02/21
Tesla doesnt even want to do leasing. Their leasing service/...
soul-stirring laser beams ticket booth
  08/02/21
*sweaty, nervous 56-year-old overweight "just do sales&...
Clear bat-shit-crazy depressive
  08/01/21
...
aqua alpha
  08/01/21
By the way, one thing I love about buying a Tesla is how eas...
aqua alpha
  08/01/21
To be fair, Naw it's shit bro just like the rest of that ...
Cobalt National Security Agency
  08/01/21
Naw
shimmering sickened pozpig round eye
  08/02/21
You can do this with any car if you're willing to pay sticke...
house-broken provocative den
  08/01/21
Except that Tesla just charges a reasonable price from day 1...
aqua alpha
  08/02/21
Dealerships completely ruin every single enthusiast car in t...
ungodly business firm macaca
  08/01/21
Literally nothing is worse than buying a car at a dealership...
shimmering sickened pozpig round eye
  08/02/21
For someone with such a low IQ, you sure love making threads...
cracking liquid oxygen
  08/02/21
Who was Paralegal Mohammad before KamalaSexy spammed the bor...
Brindle pisswyrm really tough guy
  08/02/21
Probably upset jew
cracking liquid oxygen
  08/02/21
(Crazy Vinnie of Crazy Vinnie’s Used Car Emporium)
Slimy Lilac Corner
  08/02/21


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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:04 PM
Author: boyish theater

Ordering directly from the manufacturer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879377)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:04 PM
Author: Exhilarant Lay Milk

Any new car should be purchased at Costco

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879379)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:48 PM
Author: shivering locale cuck

Costco just sends you to dealers. What is the benefit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880638)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 12:36 PM
Author: Exhilarant Lay Milk

Excellent return policy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42883939)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:05 PM
Author: Rose bossy garrison

super high IQ tell actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879380)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:05 PM
Author: Jade pit

There was a study from over a decade ago that predicted it would save consumers something like $1000 per car on average.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879381)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:10 PM
Author: boyish theater

You’re assuming Tesla would sell for the same price at a dealership and not for much less than, literally, the manufacturer’s suggested retail price. They are overpriced currently.

To say nothing of the after purchase support a dealership provides or the logistical nightmare of running a massive retail operation under the aegis of a manufacturer. There’s a reason it takes 5 months to get your Tesla and why their customer service is a joke (not that the cultists mind)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879413)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:15 PM
Author: Jade pit

I didn't interpret "Tesla-style" as referring to sellers that can't get their shit together. Rather, I interpreted it as a reference to direct sales, which is common in many countries and doesn't entail terrible parts availability.

And I'm not worried about MSRP. The auto business is competitive.

The people who lose out would be the good hagglers and deal finders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879433)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:37 PM
Author: boyish theater

You’re not worried about MSRP? It won’t be like it is now. Manufacturers would incur massive costs running a sales operation and they will pass that onto you. Currently few dealers make profit on new vehicle sales. They also appraise trade-ins, buy and wholesale used vehicles, etc.

If the manufacturer got into this they’d need to hire an army of people to do so. They’d have to hire experienced people to appraise trades and wholesale them. They’d have to hire experienced people to determine what inventory works for each local market. They’d have to hire sales consultants, etc. All of this costs money.

On top of that the factories would have serious cash flow issues. As it stands, they invoice for cars as they’re shipped and are paid directly or by the floorplan lender.

If they own the retail channels, who’s going to pay for the cars as they’re shipped from the factory? Are you going to pay for your car in full possibly weeks before you receive it? There would be a cash flow crunch as manufacturers are required to hold inventory. As costs go up prices go up. Business 101.

Then on the service side, independent mechanics would struggle to service modern cars. The factory wants trained techs working on their cars. This is not 1965, cars are. very complex these days and techs are constantly going for in depth training. The money dealers invest in diagnostic equipment and special tools, some of which is hardly ever used but they have to have is staggering. Few independent garages have the financial ability to acquire dealer level diagnostic and programming capabilities. And the ones that do aren’t generally markedly cheaper than the dealership. Why? Well, there’s that pesky overhead again.

On top of that if manufacturers now controlled retail sales and service, what’s to stop them from not selling parts to independent repair and body shops? You could find yourself forced to go to the manufacturer controlled locations for parts and service because no independents could get parts or repair information. Oh wait, that’s reality with Tesla ownership

You are at best woefully misinformed. America is not like Europe and this would not work here. It’s like saying, just do universal healthcare bro, why is every other first world nation blah blah blah. The answer is they don’t have niggers



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880153)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:55 PM
Author: Charismatic Drunken Cumskin

Why do you sound like upset jew and why are you obsessed with this?

Car dealers make money because the markup they charge and the money they make on service exceeds the carrying costs of parking Cars on their lot.

Also it’s the law for car dealers to exist because they lobbied for it many years ago.

Irl I would expect way fewer locations if all were owned by the car companies since tons of these are cannibalizing each other and they wouldn’t want a bunch of shitdealers to deal with in a downturn. Same reason why there aren’t a ton of apple stores everywhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880215)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:42 PM
Author: boyish theater

Less places to purchase and service your car and *why that's a good thing*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880602)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:49 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

(Brilliant and high IQ genius who only ever takes his car in to be serviced at the official [insert brand]-certified dealership, why of course!)

Let me guess -- you an extended warranty man, too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880648)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:52 PM
Author: boyish theater

Great retort, go ahead and take your best shot responding to my reply above so we can streamline this, TYIA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880661)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:53 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

Sorry you're too low IQ to merit any more substantive replies, thank

But I'm glad we established downthread that you continually wasting your precious and finite time on this Earth -- on a beautiful Sunday afternoon, no less -- responding to a catty and obnoxious faggot on the internet about whether Tesla sucks or not (you don't own one and have no skin in that game but you feel really strongly about this topic for reasons that are undoubtedly based in your pure love of truth etc) isn't "megaposting," because you clearly have much better things to do with your time and aren't a fucking faggot who does that kind of embarrassing shit and anyone who thinks or suggests otherwise is cringe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880666)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:54 PM
Author: boyish theater

that's what i thought you bitchmade faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880674)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:55 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

"Jokes on you, I didn't even read your last post! Pwned!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880676)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 1:04 AM
Author: Jade pit

Were manufacturers to take over the role of dealers, that wouldn't imply any additional expense relative to the status quo, which also has dealers. And no one is proposing a ban on dealers, so manufacturers who think dealers are valuable could keep using them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42882320)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 1:42 AM
Author: racy crawly degenerate range

Cash flow issues?

You would 100% pay for a car upfront in cash or with a down payment + loan.

There’s still alternatives like Carvana to handle used car re-sell, which is a much better consumer experience.

My dealership experience has always been shit for the most part. Handling the salesman, ridiculously high repair fees, finding mechanical problems that don’t exist, etc.

The cost of the dealership industry is already passed onto the consumer, and there’s no way eliminating that would raise MSRP.

Maintenance seems like the biggest issue, but independent body shops are a good alternative. And if the manafacturer is excluding them with expensive, proprietary special parts and machinery - that’s will ultimately kill brand equity.

THe reality is that most car dealerships are ran by 90-IQ sneezy proles, shady legislation is helping keep them afloat and consumers would be better off with less of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42882497)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:07 PM
Author: Rose bossy garrison

i bet you bought your mattress from a "store" too, LJL!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879392)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:08 PM
Author: Blue hairraiser wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879397)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:31 PM
Author: up-to-no-good burgundy becky

cr question

the dealership would be way more effective at providing ongoing maintenance and service if they had two layers of dealerships to lean on themselves. Right now the entire burden is on them - they're like Atlas with the weight of the industry on their backs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880127)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:11 PM
Author: Amber cruise ship

(Guy buying $90 buckets of protein at GNC and $50 HDMI cables at BestBuy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879417)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:12 PM
Author: boyish theater

(Guy with an embarrassingly low iq)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879424)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 1:06 PM
Author: nubile exciting idiot

You got pwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879556)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:38 PM
Author: boyish theater

Shut the fuck up faggot and lick my balls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880156)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 4:30 PM
Author: nubile exciting idiot

If I May, grow a beard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880289)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:42 PM
Author: Flushed stag film black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880172)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 1:05 PM
Author: nubile exciting idiot

Absolutely devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879554)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 1:20 PM
Author: cracking liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879596)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:10 PM
Author: Flushed stag film black woman

it's worse than that–imagine that only BestBuy could sell HDMI cables, by only a single manufacturer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880050)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 4:26 PM
Author: Rose bossy garrison

$149 Apple HDMI Cable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880277)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 4:45 PM
Author: Flushed stag film black woman

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880348)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:48 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880643)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 1:44 AM
Author: racy crawly degenerate range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42882501)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:14 PM
Author: Dull Step-uncle's House

(salesman at a car dealership)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879430)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:02 PM
Author: aqua alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880019)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:30 PM
Author: house-broken provocative den

Saturn was destroyed by the 2008 (((crisis))). While their cars were nothing special, the dealership model was CR and vastly superior to both Tesla and the standard car dealership model.

There was a dealership. The price was the price and it was widely available online. So you avoid the haggling bullshit. But the dealership also acted as a showroom and service center, so you don't have the Tesla situation where you have to wait 3 months for an appointment. How they worked this out between the manufacturer and the dealership I have no idea, but from an end user perspective it was great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879468)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: Peach Kitchen

car buying would be so much more pleasant not having to deal with the prolest salespeople in existence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879472)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:54 PM
Author: obsidian trailer park cuckold

You sound like the type of guy who tips his REALTOR and talks about the great value add his REALTOR is at parties.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879523)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 1:06 PM
Author: nubile exciting idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879558)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:11 PM
Author: Flushed stag film black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880058)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:52 PM
Author: Peach Kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880663)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:56 PM
Author: Maize Whorehouse Death Wish

Best argument for dealers is local employment

Best against is land use. Why clutter your city with lots?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879528)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 12:58 PM
Author: obsidian trailer park cuckold

Huh? So it's good to employ car sales people in pointless jobs? That's a shit argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879530)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 1:06 PM
Author: nubile exciting idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879559)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 1:18 PM
Author: Maize Whorehouse Death Wish

95% of jobs are pointless. Don’t know what the answer is there. But absent an answer yeah let 28yo goombas have a job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879587)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 1:13 PM
Author: impressive fanboi

ive never understood how you really get around the whole dealership thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879573)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 1:08 AM
Author: Jade pit

The same way a variety of other retailers sell their own products.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42882335)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 1:17 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

Damn, according to "Paralegal Mohammed" on "the internet," this stupid Tesla company can't do *anything* right!

I'm just a simple retard, but I certainly agree that *checks notes*

"car dealerships are a wonderful and indeed necessary component of the 'new car' automobile industry."

BTW, "Bitcoin" is going to zero. No, not $1/BTC -- literally $0/BTC. Soon. Get out while you can. No that's not just my opinion, it's Science(TM). No I don't own any BTC/ETH and never have and I am super proud of that fact, and yes I do choose to spend my weekends writing lengthy screeds about tether fraud on a dying message board filled with dozens of other paunchy balding lawyers who did buy BTC/ETH and have made millions from doing that (which I would never do even if I had a time machine and could go back in time btw because it's a fraud that is harmful to society and as a proud American lawyer I refuse to ever participate in fraud that is harmful to society), and also let's DISPENSE with the FICTION that my motivation to obsessively spend my time doing that comes from a place of jealousy or bitterness, which is absolutely false... anyway, why do you ask?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42879586)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:01 PM
Author: boyish theater

Take your meds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880016)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:29 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

Devastating.

Just don't call me "Claire," OK bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880559)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:43 PM
Author: boyish theater

Try to be less of a catty faggot I know it's hard for u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880607)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:45 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

Says the cool and chill guy spending his weekend megaposting on an obscure dying internet message board to shit all over Tesla (doesn't own a Tesla car or any Tesla stock), crypto (no skin in that game either), etc., pretty much whatever we want.

But hey, at least you're not a transparently jealous and bitter faggot about any of this stuff, ha ha!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880617)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:51 PM
Author: boyish theater

a) not megapoasting, checking in every few hours

b) i own crypto

c) yes i'm totally jealous and bitter that i don't own a fucking tesla lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880658)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:52 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

Oh sorry for accusing you of megapoasting, definitely haven't been doing that today I stand corrected my b

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880659)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:13 PM
Author: Flushed stag film black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880061)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:02 PM
Author: aqua alpha

That's 100% how it should work. The dealership experience is awful and adds negative value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880021)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:08 PM
Author: soul-stirring laser beams ticket booth

Dealerships add basically nothing to the purchase price of a car. They make ~$1-3k per sale. They make virtually all of their money on after sale services. Without dealerships you end up in a scenario where you rent your car because Tesla has made it impossible to service anything third party or do anything yourself. They dont sell parts to anyone. Dealerships ensure the manufacturers sells parts not just to the dealerships but to third party service centers as a "fuck you" to the dealership. Without dealerships all the third party repair places are going to find that nobody is selling them certified parts. At best they will get gray market Chinese parts until the manufacturers clamp down on that supply source too. The ultimate cost of repair is going to explode.

You dont want a manufacturer who controls the entire chain. They will rape you at every step.

Dealerships are also better than cost neutral for sales for bros who shop around and know cars. The deals you can get on shit they cant sell are 180 because they ultimately dont have the pockets of the manufacturer and cant sit on dead inventory forever. The manufacturer is loaded enough he is cool sitting on 18 months of supply without discounting it. Most people just dont play that game and wont take the car in the yellow trim that's been sitting there for 18 months....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880043)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: aqua alpha

"Dealerships ensure the manufacturers sells parts not just to the dealerships but to third party service centers as a "fuck you" to the dealership"

That's not inherent. Frankly, Tesla shouldn't be allowed to not sell parts to third parties (that's blatantly unfair to consumers).

No one wants to haggle with car dealers. That's why all new models of buying (Carvana, Costco, online purchasing, Tesla, etc.) are all about avoiding that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880111)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:38 PM
Author: boyish theater

Finally a reasonable voice and it’s fucking valen lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880159)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:42 PM
Author: Flushed stag film black woman

Date: August 1st, 2021 3:38 PM

Author: Paralegal Mohammad

Finally a reasonable voice and it’s fucking valen lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880159)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880174)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:45 PM
Author: aqua alpha

This should cause you to rethink your position here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880180)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:30 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

Right up there with the LTM "totally credited" bump. That's how you *know* you're right, and definitely not a total fucking retard!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880567)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:43 PM
Author: boyish theater

Yeah I'm the retard while you're in the untenable position of having to defend Tesla's delivery model

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880606)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:44 PM
Author: soul-stirring laser beams ticket booth

Plus their supply chain is still shit. There are scores of YouTube videos online where people bitch that it still takes 12 weeks to get a new door after an accident.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880613)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:48 PM
Author: boyish theater

Yep or when you purchase a car and it tells you 3 months, then a couple weeks later it tells you 6 months and you have no one to bitch to because they don't staff enough people so you talk to an automated line and stalk the internet to get an email address, and your "delivery specialist" doesn't give two shits about you or worry about facing any consequences from fucking up, and when you finally, miraculously receive your car

it's total fucking dogshit with chipped paint and misaligned panels and maybe a screen missing a pixel (sorry teehee no dealer to do a pre-purchase inspection) and you just take it on the chin because fuck dealers, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880642)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:46 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

"Why it's actually a BAD thing that people are gladly signing up for lengthy wait times on Tesla deliveries, and how this PROVES that Waymo is ACTUALLY the future!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880624)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:53 PM
Author: soul-stirring laser beams ticket booth

TBF people are idiots and follow the herd. Most Tesla buyers couldnt give you 500 words on "why Tesla."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880668)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:56 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

1. That's legitimately untrue re Tesla buyers, because even in 2021 they're still much more likely to be overly fanatical about the company / Musk than they are to be "lol idk memecar I guess hehe whatev" and in fact the former criticism remains the prevailing stereotype about them by a wide margin.

2. Even if your point was true (it's not), it would only underscore one of the many different bull case arguments for Tesla: It has unquestionably captured the popular imagination in a way that no other car manufacturer has, and most people *are* fucking retards who just follow the herd -- and wouldn't you know it, Tesla is coming out with cheaper and cheaper models now to appeal to precisely that impulse in the wider general public. But sure, "Waymo" or whatever competing brand that 99.9% of the population has never even heard of (and which exclusively makes extremely expensive vehicles that also happen to be ugly as fuck and are much less practical to actually use, charge, etc. than a Tesla) is probably going to win the EV/FSD race, it's just a matter of time until it's over you stupid Teslamos, your precious overvalued stock is going to zero trust me on this one!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880686)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 1:16 AM
Author: Jade pit

A national act that bars states from requiring dealership sales could add right-to-repair provisions, including parts sales.

Independent of that, the car business is competitive. Having high repair costs is bad. It pisses off customers and hurts the value of vehicles, both at sale and on resale, which hurts leasing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42882380)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 8:36 AM
Author: soul-stirring laser beams ticket booth

Tesla doesnt even want to do leasing. Their leasing service/rates are horrendous. They want you hooked in for 60 or 72 months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42883023)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:11 PM
Author: Clear bat-shit-crazy depressive

*sweaty, nervous 56-year-old overweight "just do sales" bro*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880053)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:28 PM
Author: aqua alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880118)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 3:45 PM
Author: aqua alpha

By the way, one thing I love about buying a Tesla is how easy it is. You buy it online, no dealer bullshit. This is a huge plus. Their dealer model helped make the sale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880182)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 5:46 PM
Author: Cobalt National Security Agency

To be fair,

Naw it's shit bro just like the rest of that company, which is totally going to zero ($0/share) just like BTC ($0/BTC), trust me on this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42880628)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 1:10 AM
Author: shimmering sickened pozpig round eye

Naw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42882347)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 8:40 PM
Author: house-broken provocative den

You can do this with any car if you're willing to pay sticker. There's a website out there somewhere with the price listed on it, you can pay it if you care to. For some reason, only people dumb enough to buy Teslas are dumb enough to actually do this. Which would be one thing if Teslas were reasonably priced, but they're substantially more expensive than comparable cars with better range and build quality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42881293)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 12:29 PM
Author: aqua alpha

Except that Tesla just charges a reasonable price from day 1 and you don't have to worry about haggling to get a decent price.

You can do online buying or whatever instead of haggling and that CAN work or not. It is all a huge hassle that is the direct result of the dealer model. I'd much rather buy from a company that owns the dealerships and where you don't have some shithead small business owner and sleezy CSLG style sales people trying to fleece me. I want all of these "just do sales" people to be fired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42883887)



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Date: August 1st, 2021 8:45 PM
Author: ungodly business firm macaca

Dealerships completely ruin every single enthusiast car in the fucking country by marking them up $10-60k or the millionaire owners of the dealerships hoarding them all as showroom cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42881320)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 1:11 AM
Author: shimmering sickened pozpig round eye

Literally nothing is worse than buying a car at a dealership.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42882351)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 1:16 AM
Author: cracking liquid oxygen

For someone with such a low IQ, you sure love making threads about other people being dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42882382)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 1:18 AM
Author: Brindle pisswyrm really tough guy

Who was Paralegal Mohammad before KamalaSexy spammed the bort with CSLG’s lawfirm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42882393)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 2:16 AM
Author: cracking liquid oxygen

Probably upset jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42882583)



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Date: August 2nd, 2021 8:45 AM
Author: Slimy Lilac Corner

(Crazy Vinnie of Crazy Vinnie’s Used Car Emporium)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4890696&forum_id=2#42883045)