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Perkins Coie evades fed jurisdiction in Carter Page suit with ONE WEIRD TRICK

Perkins Coie is stateless, they say. https://justthenews....
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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:26 AM
Author: Beady-eyed gas station genital piercing

Perkins Coie is stateless, they say.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/tuehillary-clintons-old-campaign-law-firm-uses-china

The Perkins Coie law firm that helped Hillary Clinton's campaign fund the now-debunked Steele dossier is using a China excuse to avoid being sued for defamation by former Trump adviser Carter Page. And so far, it is working.

"Three Perkins Coie partners are 'stateless' U.S. citizens domiciled in China," the lawyers representing the firm and the Democratic National Committee argued in an appellate brief earlier this year. "That statelessness is imputed to Perkins Coie and forecloses the existence of complete diversity of citizenship in this case."

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In a little noticed ruling in late June, the 7th Circuit of the U.S. Court of Appeals in Chicago accepted the Washington D.C.-based firm's claim that it was a "stateless" entity that can't be sued in federal court.

"In response to our concerns regarding subject matter jurisdiction, Perkins Coie submitted affidavits from three individual partners who are U.S. citizens domiciled in China: Yun (Louise) Lu, Scott Palmer, and James M. Zimmerman," the court noted.

"We adhere to this same reasoning and conclude that Perkins Coie (as a named defendant) takes on the stateless status of its individual partners Lu, Palmer, and Zimmerman," it added. "This attribution of statelessness destroys complete diversity and deprived the district court of the power to hear this case.

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The appellate judges acknowledged the legal theory of federal court immunity for "stateless" entities was novel and based on laws created before the rise of multinational corporations and it may be ripe for review by the U.S. Supreme Court.

"We acknowledge that in today's global business environment, where multinational entities exist in every facet of commerce, this result may strike some as impractical," the judges noted. "But keep in mind that when Congress enacted the Judiciary Act of 1789, and in the subsequent decades when the Supreme Court decided many of its significant diversity jurisdiction cases, most of today's business forms did not exist."

"The Supreme Court has not explicitly answered this question. But the Court has held both that a stateless citizen cannot be sued in diversity (see Newman-Green, 490 U.S. at 828–29) and that the citizenship of a partnership is based on the citizenship of each individual partner," the judges added.

Page told Just the News that he would continue to fight in the courts because he believes the Clinton-funded dossier amounted to improper foreign interference in the U.S. election. Steele is a British citizen and former MI6 operative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4891972&forum_id=2#42889244)



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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:28 AM
Author: Startled infuriating becky

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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:29 AM
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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:31 AM
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Date: August 3rd, 2021 12:16 PM
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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:28 AM
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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:29 AM
Author: idiotic bateful mediation office

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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:30 AM
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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:31 AM
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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:31 AM
Author: Laughsome antidepressant drug

what the fuck, need link to the opinion, this makes zero sense as written in the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4891972&forum_id=2#42889278)



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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:47 AM
Author: slap-happy school cafeteria people who are hurt

LLP has citizenship if its members. Stateless people can’t be sued in drive diversity because it applies to people of different states or citizens of different countries. Clearly as congress intended.

https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2021-08/USCOURTS-ca7-20-02781-0.pdf

Imagine the service partner who cops breakfast so the firm can avoid a lawsuit - we need you to move to Nigeria tomorrow Jack!

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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:53 AM
Author: Laughsome antidepressant drug

Got it, I was hung up on the term "stateless" which normally refers to refugees without citizenship of any country, which seemed lol as applied to biglaw partners in china.

lol at this ridiculous outcome though, wtf

"The Supreme Court has interpreted this

statutory list to exclude United States citizens who are domiciled abroad. See Newman-Green, Inc. v. Alfonzo-Larrain,

490 U.S. 826, 828–29 (1989). Such individuals are not “citizens” of any state for purposes of the statute because they are

not domiciled in a state. They are, in a word, “stateless.” See

id. at 828. Nor, of course, would United States citizens living

in another nation fall within the statute’s understanding of

“foreign citizens.” It takes more than living abroad to be a citizen of the foreign nation. "

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4891972&forum_id=2#42889416)



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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:55 AM
Author: Startled infuriating becky

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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:58 AM
Author: Laughsome antidepressant drug

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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:57 AM
Author: Overrated floppy philosopher-king indian lodge

Holy Gefilte Fish Batman!

This is why people hate lawyers.

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Date: August 3rd, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Charismatic bawdyhouse

Because they understand the law?

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Date: August 3rd, 2021 11:59 AM
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LLC's and Partnerships should be treated like corps for purposes of citizenship. It's not 1920 where a partnership is two guys getting together for a venture. 7th circuit is forcing the Supreme Court's (and Congress's) hand on this one.

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Date: August 3rd, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: Sapphire Lascivious Useless Brakes

This isn't one weird trick. This is 1st year civ pro.

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