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The logic fail at the heart of the vax hysteria is hilarious

"YOU MUST GET VACCINATED UR GONNA KILL US ALL!" ...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
They significantly reduce the risk that you will be involved...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
no they dont
thriller cerise boistinker
  09/20/21
No, actually.
Sticky Fanboi Market
  09/20/21
Even if this were true, it necessarily means that the "...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
What are the characteristics of a “true vaccine,&rdquo...
coiffed alpha house
  09/20/21
*pulls up definition from archived page on CDC website*
Violet Hall
  09/20/21
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thriller cerise boistinker
  09/20/21
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Brilliant arousing theatre
  09/20/21
Glad you asked, ardent acolyte of Science! Generally spe...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
And, consistent with your point, "preventing the diseas...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Virtually everyone who catches COVID experiences it as eithe...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Ok...so that's good, right?
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Yes, and a good reason why we don't need crappy vaccines and...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Ok, so if you you can extend that good result to more people...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
I'm glad we are in agreement we should pursue natural herd i...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Not sure why you would prefer the risks of acquiring natural...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Because the vaccine immunity is SPS after a time and I'm not...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Ok, now show your work and compare it to natural immunity. ...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
If you get a good IgA response in your gut and mucosa, it is...
Brilliant arousing theatre
  09/20/21
None of that is remotely true. 1. A “vaccine&rdquo...
coiffed alpha house
  09/20/21
It's all true, actually. I know you have a hard time wit...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Next time can you try to dispute a single thing I said? T...
coiffed alpha house
  09/20/21
Now do how many "breakthrough" cases of polio ther...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
What do you think "90% effective" means, fucko? W...
coiffed alpha house
  09/20/21
(guy who didn't get all his polio shots) Look, man, if ge...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
lol, no. did you get that from facebook? there are actual...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
Also, running water.
jet prole box office
  09/20/21
for the most part, vaccines have done little to actually cur...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
I'm with you, bros.
jet prole box office
  09/20/21
WTF is this "no true scotsman" shit? Who cares if...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Because the "significant benefits" are not widespr...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Everything that you have said here misses the point. Som...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
"Something can do major good in eliminating a bad outco...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
(expert in self-pwnage)
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
It is. This is actually a major vulnerability in conturd an...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
gun control is pretty black and white in that niggers are 99...
Sticky Fanboi Market
  09/20/21
Libs do the same shit. It's not a conturd or shitlib thing,...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
(thoughtful moderate)
coiffed alpha house
  09/20/21
Centrist, sure, but not necessarily moderate.
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Fair. Fair. Not gonna say it's only coming from one group,...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
No, I have trouble with lib concepts like man in dress = wom...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
We probably agree on more than we disagree re Covid policy, ...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
"are not widespread against all variants" citat...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
I have no idea why the few antivaxxers I know keep going bac...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
LMAO move the goalpoasts further, please. We've gone fro...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
There is literally 0 evidence that the vaccines are ineffect...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
There is actually mountains of evidence that they don't do m...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Link to the tweets that constitute your "evidence"...
coiffed alpha house
  09/20/21
Israel is a counterexample to what you are claiming, you abs...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
"Actually, the vaccine failing just means the vaccine i...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
If you think the data from Israel shows the vaccine "fa...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
The Israeli data clearly demonstrates that natural immunity ...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Yes, the Israel data appears to show natural immunity is sup...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Again, still not getting why this is even considered an argu...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Link to evidence of assured safety?
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
There is no such thing as "assured safety" in life...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
So this quotemo is an idiot. Thanks for clarifying.
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
Your safety is assured in the medical context. There are ri...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
If the minimal risks associated with vaccination count as &q...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
No doubt. While they remain unvaxxed, they are more lik...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
That seems to be accurate, but it's hard to know what "...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Don't disagree with that either. Doing what we can to end t...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Going to need a link for this one as well. Thakn
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
Do you disagree with the proposition that getting the vaccin...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Personally I would say it's debatable but unlikely to have a...
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
So we agree that you getting the vaccine would reduce the ch...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
As I clearly explained, no.
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
"I acknowledge that in many individuals it will reduce ...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
"Personally I would say it's debatable but unlikely to ...
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
Can you answer or not? Please say what you mean. I'm not a...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
For the third time no. Jfc man what's wrong with you.
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
Okay no link but an almost coherent response. What qualifies...
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
Not interested in playing word games. Would be interested i...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Those are your words, if they have clearly defined meaning p...
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
What is the risk of developing myocarditis as a result a vac...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Personally I would assume my risk is higher with the vaccine...
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
Can you answer the two questions above or no?
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
I did answer with regards to myself. I could research the me...
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
I didn't ask for your "feelings" or "opinions...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
I fully responded to you. You have not responded to me. Hone...
spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot
  09/20/21
To be fair, they make it significantly less likely you'll ge...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
“If it doesn’t prevent spreading or getting covi...
Free-loading goyim
  09/20/21
We must protect the already protected by making the unprotec...
wonderful faggotry library
  09/20/21
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massive contagious ratface
  09/20/21
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thriller cerise boistinker
  09/20/21
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bull headed psychic
  09/20/21
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Fantasy-prone parlor
  09/20/21
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Violet Hall
  09/20/21
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Sticky Fanboi Market
  09/20/21
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Ebony pocket flask
  09/20/21
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Blue quadroon
  09/20/21
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Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
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Cream excitant location striped hyena
  09/20/21
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garnet mad-dog skullcap
  09/20/21
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motley gaping school
  09/20/21
This was misinformed even back in March when it was first sa...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
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Provocative sapphire stain
  09/20/21
also need to protect kids who don't get covid
Translucent property
  09/20/21
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Sickened thirsty address pervert
  09/20/21
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Twisted Impertinent Forum Puppy
  09/20/21
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Fragrant Locale Laser Beams
  09/20/21
The vaccines prevent death in the vaccinated imho so if 99.9...
mahogany garrison
  09/20/21
It's a probability thing. Wearing a seatbelt is actually ...
Snowy cruise ship
  09/20/21
does the seat belt increase my odds for heart inflammation?
Fantasy-prone parlor
  09/20/21
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bull headed psychic
  09/20/21
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Violet Hall
  09/20/21
No, but there are lots of other really unlikely detriments f...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
You can get heart injuries from a seatbelt in a crash. Not ...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Your heart is FAR more likely to be inflamed as a result of ...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
link? the fda just came out and said the opposite when they ...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
We were talking about risks to the unvaccinated, not those e...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Depends on sex/age, I think. Myocarditis is a lot more comm...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Everything always depends on sex/age. Is OP an adolescent?
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
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Sickened thirsty address pervert
  09/20/21
what part of a seat belt is injected into a human body?
Fantasy-prone parlor
  09/20/21
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bull headed psychic
  09/20/21
were seat belts developed with/tested on aborted babies?
Fantasy-prone parlor
  09/20/21
...
bull headed psychic
  09/20/21
99.97% of the aborted babies stayed dead.
jet prole box office
  09/20/21
SIT IN THE BOOSTER SEAT MAGATARD
Dark passionate legal warrant casino
  09/20/21
cr wearing seatbelts is fucking gay
Sticky Fanboi Market
  09/20/21
If I don't wear my seat belt and you do, that doesn't harm y...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
"If I don't wear my seat belt and you do, that doesn't ...
Aromatic saffron meetinghouse
  09/20/21
sounds alpha tbh
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Yeah, that's a key difference, although not a huge one since...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Do seatbelts disintegrate after 4 months?
flickering lay
  09/20/21
my daughter's backpack setting off the passenger seatbelt be...
walnut orchestra pit sound barrier
  09/20/21
What’s less hilarious is how this “logic fail&rd...
sable idiotic kitty cat gunner
  09/20/21
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bull headed psychic
  09/20/21
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thriller cerise boistinker
  09/20/21
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Ebony pocket flask
  09/20/21
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Scarlet supple ceo cumskin
  09/20/21
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wonderful faggotry library
  09/20/21
yep
massive contagious ratface
  09/20/21
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Hideous Amethyst Associate Rehab
  09/20/21
War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength
Hairraiser claret kitchen
  09/20/21
What’s more hilarious is that this “logic fail&r...
coiffed alpha house
  09/20/21
To be fair, I only included the word "logic" in th...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/21/21
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Sickened thirsty address pervert
  09/20/21
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embarrassed to the bone offensive philosopher-king field
  09/20/21
The vaccine shots barely work, which is why we need them con...
bat-shit-crazy haunted graveyard point
  09/20/21
Vaccines have saved thousands and thousands of lives.
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Not these ones
bat-shit-crazy haunted graveyard point
  09/20/21
In Australia, if you go to the hospital with COVID and unvac...
turquoise headpube toaster
  09/20/21
??? i just heard they banned ivermectin in aus
massive contagious ratface
  09/20/21
They're giving it to vaccinated COVID patients
turquoise headpube toaster
  09/20/21
link?
massive contagious ratface
  09/20/21
There was a video posted a few days ago of some whistleblowe...
turquoise headpube toaster
  09/20/21
dude if you can find that i'd love you forever TYIA
massive contagious ratface
  09/20/21
Please poast it
Charcoal Therapy
  09/20/21
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garnet mad-dog skullcap
  09/20/21
The only source is this video from a nurse in AUS https://m...
hyperactive charismatic church building
  09/20/21
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Hideous Amethyst Associate Rehab
  09/20/21
thread goes to shit the moment EPAH and IronRetard show up o...
thriller cerise boistinker
  09/20/21
Yeah, it's tough when your circle jerk gets ruined by people...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
You always post the same shit. There's literally no point in...
thriller cerise boistinker
  09/20/21
If only you could read what I say, and show why is is wrong/...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
hey, what do you think about that India story about that one...
massive contagious ratface
  09/20/21
Haven't heard of it.
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
i bumped it for ya take a look! kooky reading!
massive contagious ratface
  09/20/21
I mean, it's a short article in an Indian newspaper. Encour...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
"I mean, imagine if you gave the the same type of credu...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
You don’t give the same credibility to the groupthink ...
Aphrodisiac Cowardly Church
  09/21/21
I don't give much credence to any news articles.
dun stirring karate
  09/23/21
Crazy how mentally ill cuckolds seem to love the vax
Sticky Fanboi Market
  09/20/21
odd case
thriller cerise boistinker
  09/20/21
"This is a thread where we repeat things we saw on Twit...
coiffed alpha house
  09/20/21
"Those 'scientists' told me castrating my male children...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
also those scientists told me that it's good for my health t...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
PhDs? You mean these guys? https://unherd.com/wp-content/...
Exhilarant Stead Messiness
  09/22/21
Tbf, epah does bring up good points
hyperactive charismatic church building
  09/20/21
Vaxing everybody instead of just at risk cohorts is going to...
azure abode
  09/20/21
it is amazing that before 2019 there was a lot of talk in th...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
...
wonderful faggotry library
  09/20/21
Vaxxing everyone would shorten the pandemic significantly, i...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
how so?
bistre milk
  09/20/21
This whole "pandemic" is a massive societal overre...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
anyone who says otherwise is an actual moron or an agent of ...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
Vaxxing everyone would shorten the pandemic significantly, i...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
By the time you got everyone in the world vaxxed-- or even c...
Diverse self-centered pit
  09/20/21
I don't understand why getting vaccinated would be more like...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
you are a literal idiot if you don't already understand this...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
Resistance to small molecule antibiotics/antivirals is certa...
Brilliant arousing theatre
  09/20/21
"when you vaccinate someone and they come in contact wi...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
time to grow a beard dude
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Vaccines select for stronger variations while eliminating th...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
Please read more carefully, and read the complete poast. ...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Irrelevant. They're called vaccine/anti biotic resistant dis...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
It's quite relevant. And Iron is correct AFAICT that yo...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
So you don't know anything. Got it. Guess all pre 2020 vacci...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
Do you believe that vaccinated people are causing covid muta...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
number of mutations/variations is irrelevant. everyone knows...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
I dont think you know what irrelevant means.
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
you have not responded to anything and therefore have conced...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
You seem keen to change the subject. But: "All the ...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
again, you have not responded to the subject of the debate a...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
You continue not to understand the point that was made. It'...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
again, you have not responded to the subject of the debate a...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
"Stronger" and "weaker" is a stupid way ...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
ok, i'll explain it again. before 2020, the consensus was to...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
You've missed the point. For starters, corona is a virus an...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
you have actually not responded to the substance of the argu...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
You keep using these "weak" and "strong"...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Ok, I think we are getting somewhere. So, let's take your...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
how could it be vaccine resistant if it has no exposure to t...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
"how could it be vaccine resistant if it has no exposur...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
(guy who hates science and thinks some magical sky fairy cre...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
What you just quoted has nothing to do with how mutations ar...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
you're 100% correct. vaccines create environments where vacc...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
They can create scenarios where *only* vaccine resistant mut...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
They can create scenarios where *only* vaccine resistant mut...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
Not if they are LESS virulent! LESS Transmissible! JFC
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
i agree. they're just vaccine resistant. then when they do b...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
In what ways do you expect them to evolve? More likely to k...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
why is everyone freaking out about the delta variant?
bistre milk
  09/20/21
1. It's much more easily transmitted, so more people are ge...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
At this point, I don't think we have any way of knowing whet...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Why? Seriously. Why is that worse?
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
so vaccine resistance disease isn't bad?
bistre milk
  09/20/21
It depends on the alternative you are comparing it to. It...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Antivaxxers struggle with nuance and the weighing of multipl...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
I think that's an uncharitable and overbroad characterizatio...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Yeah probably overbroad characterization. But it seems like...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
It wont make sense to him because he doesn't have the transm...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
See my response below. Why does this hypothetical as app...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Bro. I think the hypothetical assumes that the vaccine resi...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Unless you are 250lb with diabetes and/or over 65 and/or dyi...
Mind-boggling Senate Codepig
  09/20/21
...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
...
thriller cerise boistinker
  09/20/21
Bort libs pouring into this thread to defend their crappy va...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Statistics fail for the antivaxers. I see why you all went i...
rusted internet-worthy step-uncle's house trump supporter
  09/20/21
Good point. But they even fight that. It's not reported pr...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Damn thats a fire reddit post
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
I'm sure that seemed like a powerful riposte in your head.
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Lmao oh what a wordsmith
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
It’s not even AntiVax issues man - it’s the fact...
garnet mad-dog skullcap
  09/20/21
I agree that requiring naturally immune people to get vaccin...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Libs ITT: "You need vaccine X to protect against vir...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Again, it's not worse. And again, just because something pr...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
This is a great 95 IQ argument that I've seen made countless...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
(dude who knows dick about statistics) Did math make your ...
rusted internet-worthy step-uncle's house trump supporter
  09/20/21
He's not a lawyer.
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
would bet he's not anything quant either. probably didn't cr...
rusted internet-worthy step-uncle's house trump supporter
  09/20/21
I don't think there's any question about that.
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Lmao these pumos are FUMING about me ITT. Enough to make me ...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
*Laughing
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
I really love that you two are speculating over my SATs, ext...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
God I wish
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Uh oh, we got another pumo stats master over here!
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Long thread. Anything in here that supports vax hysteria and...
Diverse self-centered pit
  09/20/21
Epah, IronMonkey, and a quotemo have absolutely PWNED Trumpt...
hyperactive charismatic church building
  09/20/21
(opposite day pumo)
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
...
Primrose Soul-stirring Locus
  09/20/21
Not what I asked though. I don't care to argue about whether...
Diverse self-centered pit
  09/20/21
That's a matter of political preference. I'm very resistant...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
I think it's clear from threads like this one that it's goin...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
I think we can get rid of a lot of masks and other troubles ...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Well, I'd like to do that but it really is an instance where...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
It really doesn't make it (much) worse for everyone, though....
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
I think it's worse in the following metrics: Schools, wor...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Ok, but "Schools, work, fun stuff all continuing to get...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
At this point I would do anything to get over this pandemic....
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Anything but just treating it like it's over? There's n...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
We aren't out of the woods yet, by a long shot, and antivax ...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
You're a goddamn fucking moron
cocky geriatric den party of the first part
  09/21/21
(shitlib breathlessly chanting DEMOCRACY DIES IN DARKNESS) ...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
First, do you agree that failing to get vaccinated makes it ...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
this begs the question: should you make massive, life alteri...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
I asked you this question and you refused to answer it. So ...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
thanks for conceding again! as a prole, maybe you should go ...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
Okay, you just want to troll and won't dare answer a questio...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
sure, if trolling is presenting you an argument and you not ...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
It's not worth it with this particular pumo. He pretends to ...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
no, there is no way this provincial prole went to an america...
bistre milk
  09/20/21
...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Reminder: all libs ITT would be 100% against the vaccines if...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
...
Primrose Soul-stirring Locus
  09/20/21
cr
thriller cerise boistinker
  09/20/21
I'm not sure which "libs" you're talking about, bu...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
whoa CR friend Now if only you could reach the DATA-drive...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Describe the mandates you are referring to.
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Are you contending that Biden didn't mandate vaccines (or in...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Describe the mandates you are referencing please. I am ...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Lmao, oh what a constitutional scholar!
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
I agree that a *LOT* of covid-related public policy is a tot...
dun stirring karate
  09/20/21
Like I said in the OP, the vaxxes are effective against cert...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
What risks do you think are being downplayed? How has the v...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
All these questions have been answered multiple times ITT. ...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Not at all. People on here who disagree with you would simp...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Lmao you would be STAUNCHLY anti-vax if Trump were president...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
Don't presume to know what I would or wouldn't do. I support...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
Must've been a real headscratcher for you when those same me...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
I'm backing away. There's only so much crazy I can process ...
Pale Plaza
  09/20/21
I understand and applaud your decision. After all, this made...
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
...
Primrose Soul-stirring Locus
  09/20/21
Libs?
vigorous naked french chef ladyboy
  09/20/21
but for our hospitals jam packed with boomers who coughed ai...
Deranged double fault
  09/20/21
God, just like in 1984!
Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma
  09/20/21
oh sorry i'll let you get back to your circle jerk, i know w...
Deranged double fault
  09/20/21
Benzo, you know I love you brother, but you're literally hom...
Primrose Soul-stirring Locus
  09/20/21
...
jet prole box office
  09/20/21
This thread should be buried at sea
bat-shit-crazy haunted graveyard point
  09/20/21
This is not acceptable under Sharia.
Sickened thirsty address pervert
  09/20/21
(XO 2021)
Milky stock car corner
  09/20/21
First, let's clear up the notion of a "perfect vaccine&...
Floppy beta indirect expression circlehead
  09/20/21
So the vaccine seems to be just a little bit better than som...
Trip theater stage
  09/20/21
LOL where the hell are you coming up with this nonsense?
dun stirring karate
  09/21/21
This is the 15th time this has been said but this time lets ...
mahogany garrison
  09/20/21


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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:09 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

"YOU MUST GET VACCINATED UR GONNA KILL US ALL!"

"But you're vaccinated, what do you have to fear?"

"THE VACCINES DON'T ACTUALLY PREVENT YOU FROM SPREADING, CATCHING, OR DYING FROM COVID, BIGOT! THEY JUST MAKE IT LESS LIKELY YOU'LL GET SICK FROM CERTAIN STRAINS FOR A VERY LIMITED TIME!"

"Oh"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145505)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:52 AM
Author: Pale Plaza

They significantly reduce the risk that you will be involved in "SPREADING, CATCHING, OR DYING FROM COVID."

Part measures are better than no measures. Life is not black and white.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145794)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:54 AM
Author: thriller cerise boistinker

no they dont

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145805)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:58 AM
Author: Sticky Fanboi Market

No, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145818)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:22 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Even if this were true, it necessarily means that the "vaccines" aren't true vaccines, but limited-time therapeutics largely similar to flu shots.

The problem is, ofc, whether this is true or not is debatable. It seems they're effective against some strains for some amount of time. Not really a panacea. In fact, using a mixed-efficacy vaccine may be making things worse by promoting evolution of the virus.

There's good evidence out of Israel that doing nothing - i.e. pursuing widespread natural immunity - would actually be the CR versus leaky vaccines + endless boosters



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145960)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:29 AM
Author: coiffed alpha house

What are the characteristics of a “true vaccine,” doctor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146012)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:32 AM
Author: Violet Hall

*pulls up definition from archived page on CDC website*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146027)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:41 AM
Author: thriller cerise boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146069)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:50 PM
Author: Brilliant arousing theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146497)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:41 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Glad you asked, ardent acolyte of Science!

Generally speaking, pre-2021 getting a vaccine meant you were effectively prevented you from getting the illness it was developed to combat. E.g. the polio vaccine meant you were never getting polio. I.e. a vaccine was a medical treatment that prevented a disease from occurring. This was largely different from yearly proactive treatments like the flu shot, which are always somewhat effective against some strains of a virus, and really more of a therapeutic than an actual vaccine.

Now, to be sure, some vaccines have always required boosters. But these are usually years apart and done out of an abundance of caution. That these COVID "vaccines" need them within 5-6 months due to waning efficacy places them in the same vein as flu shots and should give us a bit of pause.

Of course, the CDC updated the definition of what a vaccine does from prevent disease to produce immunity in 2021, so the definition is officially somewhat muddled:

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1435606845926871041?s=20



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146065)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:44 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

And, consistent with your point, "preventing the disease" has usually meant preventing symptomatic expression of the disease, not some forcefield that causes a virus to bounce off your body.

But this is all unimportant semantic bullshit, because (just like fretting about "cases") who the fuck cares if you get some minor sniffles or an "infection" without any symptoms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146083)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:48 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Virtually everyone who catches COVID experiences it as either minor sniffles, so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146099)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:49 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

Ok...so that's good, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146103)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:51 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Yes, and a good reason why we don't need crappy vaccines and endless lockdowns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146112)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:55 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

Ok, so if you you can extend that good result to more people who would otherwise get a worse result, that's a benefit, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146132)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

I'm glad we are in agreement we should pursue natural herd immunity and perhaps vaccinate the most at risk populations (super unhealthies and super olds).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146190)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:04 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

Not sure why you would prefer the risks of acquiring natural immunity to the risk of vaccine-induced immunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146203)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:11 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Because the vaccine immunity is SPS after a time and I'm not interested in endless boosters, HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146241)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:14 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

Ok, now show your work and compare it to natural immunity. What does "the vaccine immunity is SPS after a time" mean, really? How does that compare to natural immunity? How to the risks of acquiring natural immunity compare to the risks of getting the vaccine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146247)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:53 PM
Author: Brilliant arousing theatre

If you get a good IgA response in your gut and mucosa, it is kind of like having a forcefield.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146504)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:46 AM
Author: coiffed alpha house

None of that is remotely true.

1. A “vaccine” is an intervention to prime an immune response. A “therapeutic” treats symptoms. The Covid vax does only the former, not the latter.

2. There has never been a vaccine that is 100% effective. Ever.

3. The flu “shot” is a vaccine with much lower effectiveness than the Covid vax and only a literal retarded person would dispute that it’s a vaccine.

Hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146088)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:56 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

It's all true, actually.

I know you have a hard time with established scientific concepts like chromosomes and secondary sex characteristics, but the fact that you can still get, transmit, and die from COVID while under the "protection" of the miracle vax doesn't help any of your points here.

Not a lot of folks checking into the ER with a post-vax "breakthrough" of polio. In fact, none.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146143)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:00 PM
Author: coiffed alpha house

Next time can you try to dispute a single thing I said?

The reason there aren't breakthrough polio infections is that the polio virus doesn't circulate anymore since 99% of the population is vaxxed against it. hth

"Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective."

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html#:~:text=Two%20doses%20of%20inactivated%20polio,of%20IPV%20and%20tOPV%2C%20or

*waits for "DA CDC JUST CHANGED THE NUMBERS ON THIS TO MAKE DA COVID THERAPEUTIC SEEM EFFECTIVE"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146169)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:02 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Now do how many "breakthrough" cases of polio there were after the vaccine was implemented. The results may surprise you!

Hint: the whole idea of a "breakthrough" case is laughable on its face and signals that these vaccines kinda suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146186)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:07 PM
Author: coiffed alpha house

What do you think "90% effective" means, fucko? What, to your mind, would the "10%" represent?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146222)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:15 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

(guy who didn't get all his polio shots)

Look, man, if getting three shots of COVIDvaxx had the same lasting effectiveness as getting three shots of poliovaxx, that would be great. But that isn't the case.

The trajectory is that of the flu shot, with annual (if not more often) shots and seasonal variations in effectiveness. For a rapidly-evolving respiratory illness, this seems like a very poor thing to mandate as necessity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146255)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:20 PM
Author: bistre milk

lol, no. did you get that from facebook?

there are actually several dozen types of bacterias and viruses that were attributed to "polio", and in fact, once the usage of certain pesticides and chemicals were stopped, polio cases dropped dramatically.

in reality, you get polio by being around poisonous chemicals and not washing your hands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146280)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:36 PM
Author: jet prole box office

Also, running water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146404)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:39 PM
Author: bistre milk

for the most part, vaccines have done little to actually curb disease transmission. it's almost entirely improvements in sanitation. polio, and it's surrounding propaganda, is a slightly different case, because it showed up later (after the advent of widespread pesticide/chemical use). libs like to use polio as an example of vaccines working. the reality is that vaccines did almost nothing, and areas with high polio cases also had high industrialized chemical usage. once those chemicals were banned polio cases completely fell off. libs don't want you to know this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146423)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:39 PM
Author: jet prole box office

I'm with you, bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146430)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:35 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

WTF is this "no true scotsman" shit? Who cares if it's a "true" vaccine if it has significant benefits?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146043)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:43 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Because the "significant benefits" are not widespread against all variants, temporary in nature, and may lead to a worse overall outcome down the road? LJL sounds like something you should care about when mandating a sweeping public health policy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146075)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:46 AM
Author: Pale Plaza

Everything that you have said here misses the point.

Something can do major good in eliminating a bad outcome but still not eliminate all the bad outcome. That does not mean we don't implement it.

You mention public policy in the above poast, but it's almost like you don't want to understand this concept.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146089)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:49 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

"Something can do major good in eliminating a bad outcome but still not eliminate all the bad outcome."

The lib brain, folks.

It's like they willfully refuse to acknowledge there were other options besides crappy vaccines and forced mandates. Like, you know, doing nothing and developing natural herd immunity, the best of all outcomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146101)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:49 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

(expert in self-pwnage)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146105)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:53 AM
Author: Pale Plaza

It is. This is actually a major vulnerability in conturd and alt-right shitposting. They literally cannot understand this concept. Talk w them about gun control and you get the same sort of black and white thinking. "Something either works 100 percent to eliminate a wrong or its not worth changing my behavior for." They don't do nuances, at least online.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146122)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:54 AM
Author: Sticky Fanboi Market

gun control is pretty black and white in that niggers are 99% of the problem

odd how libs miss this "nuance"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146131)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:55 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

Libs do the same shit. It's not a conturd or shitlib thing, it's a not-very-bright-person thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146135)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:57 AM
Author: coiffed alpha house

(thoughtful moderate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146149)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:00 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

Centrist, sure, but not necessarily moderate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146174)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:57 AM
Author: Pale Plaza

Fair. Fair. Not gonna say it's only coming from one group, although I don't usually see it coming from anyone other than alt-right shitpoasters in personal experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146151)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:10 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

No, I have trouble with lib concepts like man in dress = woman, not with your midwit "It's not just black and white, man!" arguments, which I believe I last heard sometime in junior high.

It's really simple, libs, there is another course of action we could pursue besides social hysteria over a virus with a 99%+ survival rate, crappy vaccines, and insane mask wearing ghost dances. We could just accept this virus as a fact of life, pursue natural immunity, and perhaps cloister the most at risk populations. This is the best outcome with the least amount of societal wreckage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146236)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:12 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

We probably agree on more than we disagree re Covid policy, but your dimwit arguments regarding vaccine efficacy are a stupid way to get there.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146243)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:47 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

"are not widespread against all variants"

citation needed

"temporary in nature"

Like a flu shot? Yeah, so what? All indications are they provide significant benefits for months, and the "oh noes vaccine efficacy is waning" hysteria is mostly media pearl clutching.

"may lead to a worse overall outcome down the road"

Citation needed. The "may" cause the sky to fall. Or they may not. We have actualy good data showing the benefits. Hypothetical dreamed up detriments aren't really a great counterweight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146094)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:41 AM
Author: Pale Plaza

I have no idea why the few antivaxxers I know keep going back to this. They keep saying, "It was billed as a vaccine but it's really a prophylactic!" Never understood how this was even something to argue. Regardless of what you think it was initially held out as, it's assuredly safe and prevents the catching of covid, the transmission of covid, and the worst of its symptoms. Saying "It's not a real vaccine!" at this point because it is something like the annual flu vaccine rather than what you get for polio as a baby just seems like some irrational lunatic talking-point. Utterly irrelevant and unfounded besides.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146067)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:47 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

LMAO move the goalpoasts further, please.

We've gone from IT'S THE ALL POWERFUL CURE to "yeah so what if they're ineffective after 5-6 months and you need forever boosters, oh and they don't work against diff. variants."

Oh, what a panacea!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146096)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:49 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

There is literally 0 evidence that the vaccines are ineffective after 5-6 months or that they don't work against different variants. You are making shit up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146100)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

There is actually mountains of evidence that they don't do much against Delta and you're gonna need a booster. See Israel or anywhere where the hospitals are now filled with predominately vaxxed people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146109)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:54 AM
Author: coiffed alpha house

Link to the tweets that constitute your "evidence"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146128)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:56 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

Israel is a counterexample to what you are claiming, you absolute dimwit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146137)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:22 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

"Actually, the vaccine failing just means the vaccine is working!"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146292)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:32 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

If you think the data from Israel shows the vaccine "failing," then you are innumerate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146376)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:39 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

The Israeli data clearly demonstrates that natural immunity is superior, the vaccines have waning effectiveness against new variants, and that you can still get sick and dead from COVID post-vaccination.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146427)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:53 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

Yes, the Israel data appears to show natural immunity is superior to vaccine-induced immunity (it also shows that natural immunity + one vaccine shot is superior to anything else).

That doesn't mean the vaccines are ineffective or "failing."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146505)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:52 AM
Author: Pale Plaza

Again, still not getting why this is even considered an argument.

Also, FWIW I don't think it was ever held out as a cure.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146113)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:02 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

Link to evidence of assured safety?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146185)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

There is no such thing as "assured safety" in life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146189)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:15 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

So this quotemo is an idiot. Thanks for clarifying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146252)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:19 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Your safety is assured in the medical context. There are risks to everything associated with medical care.

I presumed it wasn't necessary for me to have to say that. But I recognize that some really dumb folks here are seething ITT because they can't seem to get a win in, so I should have known better.

With that caveat, let me be clear: Your safety from the vaccine is assured.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146272)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:21 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

If the minimal risks associated with vaccination count as "safety assured," then there is a significant population of people whose "safety is assured" from Covid regardless of vaccination.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146286)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:24 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

No doubt.

While they remain unvaxxed, they are more likely to pass Covid on to others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146313)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

That seems to be accurate, but it's hard to know what "more likely" actually means right now. Not a lot of good data on that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146328)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Don't disagree with that either. Doing what we can to end this thing, following the best courses of action as they appear at this moment. When people don't understand why a particular course is "the best course at the moment," that is harmful. When people willfully spread misinformation detracting from the best course at the moment, that is harmful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146345)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

Going to need a link for this one as well. Thakn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146333)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:36 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Do you disagree with the proposition that getting the vaccine reduces the likelihood that you will spread corona to someone else?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146407)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:56 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

Personally I would say it's debatable but unlikely to have any significant effect on me. As a matter of public policy, I would guess that with current widespread public health believes and behaviors it's unlikely to have much effect at the societal level. I acknowledge that in many individuals it will reduce their likelihood of spreading covid (e.g. those who die with vaccine).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146526)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:03 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

So we agree that you getting the vaccine would reduce the chance that you will spread covid on to someone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146571)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:09 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

As I clearly explained, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146602)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:11 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

"I acknowledge that in many individuals it will reduce their likelihood of spreading covid (e.g. those who die with vaccine)."

Reconcile. Please say what you mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146614)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:18 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

"Personally I would say it's debatable but unlikely to have any significant effect on me." (referring to the MRNA covid vaccines)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146645)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:38 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Can you answer or not? Please say what you mean. I'm not a mind reader.

Let's make it easy, and start from the beginning again. Do you agree with this statement:

"You getting the vaccine would reduce the chance that you will spread covid on to someone else."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146717)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:33 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

For the third time no. Jfc man what's wrong with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147891)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:25 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

Okay no link but an almost coherent response. What qualifies as assuredly safe in the medical context?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146317)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:37 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Not interested in playing word games. Would be interested in what you think the risks from the vaccine are, including their respective likelihood of developing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146415)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:51 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

Those are your words, if they have clearly defined meaning please enlighten me. Who's playing games?

The established risks are myocarditis, etc. that the CDC has admitted. I'd wager there are additional risks but I don't know what they are. I haven't seen any clear explanation of the VAERS data for starters. Frankly I see no benefit to getting this vaccine so the burden of proof is on those who want me to get it to provide evidence. They'd be better served providing informed consent of the risks than parroting "safe and effective" propaganda.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146498)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:54 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

What is the risk of developing myocarditis as a result a vaccination.

What is the risk of developing myocarditis as a result of Covid?

Answer these questions and you will have your answer. I am not saying you can understand it, but at least you might be more circumspect about spreading lies on the topic.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146511)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:08 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

Personally I would assume my risk is higher with the vaccine vs. risk of catching covid and developing myocarditis, but I'm open to seeing evidence to the contrary.

For those without prior infection or vaccine it's a good point and worth explaining with clear data.

If you think you haven't spread lies on this topic you are delusional and beyond help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146597)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:12 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Can you answer the two questions above or no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146623)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:19 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

I did answer with regards to myself. I could research the meta data but I'd rather not. From what I remember the risks are similar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146655)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:36 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

I didn't ask for your "feelings" or "opinions" though. Those things might be pertinent later on, but I'm just asking you whether you can actually answer the two questions posted. And you apparently cannot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146711)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:32 PM
Author: spectacular domesticated cuckold idiot

I fully responded to you. You have not responded to me. Honestly you seem painfully dumb and this is why even some people who need it don't get vaxxed, because of people like you making a mess of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147887)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:34 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

To be fair, they make it significantly less likely you'll get sick from all known strains for an extended period of time (at least 6 months)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146039)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:11 AM
Author: Free-loading goyim

“If it doesn’t prevent spreading or getting covid, why is everyone forced to get it?”

“Get the fucking jab!!!!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145513)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:11 AM
Author: wonderful faggotry library

We must protect the already protected by making the unprotected protect themselves with the protection that isn’t working for the protected. *blank stare*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145515)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:12 AM
Author: massive contagious ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145520)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:12 AM
Author: thriller cerise boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145521)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:14 AM
Author: bull headed psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145529)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:14 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145533)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:17 AM
Author: Violet Hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145558)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:20 AM
Author: Sticky Fanboi Market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145579)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:22 AM
Author: maize swashbuckling mood heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145589)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:23 AM
Author: Ebony pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145598)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:26 AM
Author: Blue quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145626)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:32 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145673)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:45 AM
Author: chestnut tanning salon elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145754)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:59 AM
Author: Cream excitant location striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145826)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:01 AM
Author: garnet mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145838)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:37 AM
Author: motley gaping school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146055)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:56 AM
Author: Pale Plaza

This was misinformed even back in March when it was first said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146140)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:11 PM
Author: Provocative sapphire stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146239)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:10 PM
Author: Translucent property

also need to protect kids who don't get covid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146606)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 5:01 PM
Author: Sickened thirsty address pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148074)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:48 PM
Author: Twisted Impertinent Forum Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43150166)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:11 AM
Author: Fragrant Locale Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145517)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:15 AM
Author: mahogany garrison

The vaccines prevent death in the vaccinated imho so if 99.9% get!vaccinated then….. I guess 0.1% still won’t be, deaths will be the same yoy and we’ll just blame random Scumbags

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145538)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:16 AM
Author: Snowy cruise ship

It's a probability thing.

Wearing a seatbelt is actually a pretty good analogy. Doesn't make a fatal or injurious crash impossible, but certainly makes it less likely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145544)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:17 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone parlor

does the seat belt increase my odds for heart inflammation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145551)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:17 AM
Author: bull headed psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145560)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:28 AM
Author: Violet Hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145642)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:39 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

No, but there are lots of other really unlikely detriments from seatbelt use (what if the mechanism gets smashed and you can't get out of a burning car?).

If you're an adolescent male, maybe the vax isn't a likely benefit due to the myocarditis risk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146057)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:44 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

You can get heart injuries from a seatbelt in a crash. Not a legitimate reason not to wear one though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146457)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:39 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Your heart is FAR more likely to be inflamed as a result of Covid. This risk of heart inflammation from the vaccine is SO LOW that you literally, right now, uninfected, have a greater chance of getting heart inflammation from Covid than you would if you took the vax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146424)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:46 PM
Author: bistre milk

link? the fda just came out and said the opposite when they didn't approve the booster for under 65 year olds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146470)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:50 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

We were talking about risks to the unvaccinated, not those eligible for a booster shot having already been vaccinated. See the difference?

Also you are wrong on the facts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146494)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:56 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

Depends on sex/age, I think. Myocarditis is a lot more common in adolescent boys after their second mRNA shot, apparently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146525)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:04 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Everything always depends on sex/age. Is OP an adolescent?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146579)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 5:02 PM
Author: Sickened thirsty address pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148082)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:17 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone parlor

what part of a seat belt is injected into a human body?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145556)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:18 AM
Author: bull headed psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145563)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:17 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone parlor

were seat belts developed with/tested on aborted babies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145562)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:18 AM
Author: bull headed psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145564)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:19 AM
Author: jet prole box office

99.97% of the aborted babies stayed dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145574)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:19 AM
Author: Dark passionate legal warrant casino

SIT IN THE BOOSTER SEAT MAGATARD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145572)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:20 AM
Author: Sticky Fanboi Market

cr wearing seatbelts is fucking gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145581)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:24 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

If I don't wear my seat belt and you do, that doesn't harm you at all.

Vaccine nutjobs are essentially claiming that me "not wearing a seat belt" DOES hurt you, and the reason it hurts you is because the "vaccines" aren't actual vaccines, just limited-time therapeutics of questionable efficacy against emergent strains.

The seat belt analogy is SPS for a variety of other reasons, as poasters above have pointed out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145601)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:34 AM
Author: Aromatic saffron meetinghouse

"If I don't wear my seat belt and you do, that doesn't harm you at all."

Not wearing a seatbelt turns you into a human missile during a crash, so it actually does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145687)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:12 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

sounds alpha tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145915)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:42 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

Yeah, that's a key difference, although not a huge one since nearly all vaccinated people face a really low risk from covid (similar to risks we've borne for years and years).

The thing that's not different is that people taking up medical resources can harm others in some scenarios (which aren't terribly common, but are apparently happening in some regional areas with high covid rates). That's not likely to happen with car crashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146073)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:46 AM
Author: flickering lay

Do seatbelts disintegrate after 4 months?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146091)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: walnut orchestra pit sound barrier

my daughter's backpack setting off the passenger seatbelt beeping sensor of my BMW this morning, causing me to have to reach over and buckle the seatbelt and distract myself even for a few seconds is actually a perfect analogy to the dumbfuckery of all this covid nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146335)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:22 AM
Author: sable idiotic kitty cat gunner

What’s less hilarious is how this “logic fail” is the prevailing viewpoint driving legislation, and even slight public disagreement with or questioning of it is not tolerated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145590)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:32 AM
Author: bull headed psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145675)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:33 AM
Author: thriller cerise boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145679)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:33 AM
Author: Ebony pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145681)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:36 AM
Author: Scarlet supple ceo cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145698)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:41 AM
Author: wonderful faggotry library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145733)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:42 AM
Author: massive contagious ratface

yep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145739)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:56 AM
Author: Hideous Amethyst Associate Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145815)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:19 AM
Author: Hairraiser claret kitchen

War is Peace

Freedom is Slavery

Ignorance is Strength

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145947)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:30 AM
Author: coiffed alpha house

What’s more hilarious is that this “logic fail” is itself a logic fail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146022)



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Date: September 21st, 2021 6:51 AM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

To be fair, I only included the word "logic" in the OP because I knew it would bring fuming midwit libs hellbent on proving their smug intelligence on the Internet into the thread. You didn't disappoint. 300 poasts, wow!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43151126)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 5:02 PM
Author: Sickened thirsty address pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148083)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:37 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone offensive philosopher-king field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43150079)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:35 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy haunted graveyard point

The vaccine shots barely work, which is why we need them constantly. Same with lockdowns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145694)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:55 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Vaccines have saved thousands and thousands of lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146521)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:37 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy haunted graveyard point

Not these ones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147912)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:44 AM
Author: turquoise headpube toaster

In Australia, if you go to the hospital with COVID and unvaccinated, they put you on a ventilator and kill you. If you go to the hospital with COVID and vaccinated, they give you Ivermectin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145748)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:45 AM
Author: massive contagious ratface

???

i just heard they banned ivermectin in aus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145751)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:49 AM
Author: turquoise headpube toaster

They're giving it to vaccinated COVID patients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145771)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:52 AM
Author: massive contagious ratface

link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145786)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:01 AM
Author: turquoise headpube toaster

There was a video posted a few days ago of some whistleblower nurses in Australia saying they're ventilating the unvaxxed to kill them and giving the vaccinated Ivermectin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145842)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:14 AM
Author: massive contagious ratface

dude if you can find that i'd love you forever

TYIA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145928)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:23 AM
Author: Charcoal Therapy

Please poast it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145965)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:34 AM
Author: garnet mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146038)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:06 PM
Author: hyperactive charismatic church building

The only source is this video from a nurse in AUS

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/085/405/392/original/918afbd721cf8584.mp4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146858)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 10:56 AM
Author: Hideous Amethyst Associate Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43145813)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:47 AM
Author: thriller cerise boistinker

thread goes to shit the moment EPAH and IronRetard show up odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146093)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: dun stirring karate

Yeah, it's tough when your circle jerk gets ruined by people who call out your bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146110)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:52 AM
Author: thriller cerise boistinker

You always post the same shit. There's literally no point in reading anything you write because I know exactly what you're going to say. And you always end up humiliating yourself. But I guess you're doing us a favor by constantly demonstrating how intellectually bankrupt your whole position is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146114)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:02 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

If only you could read what I say, and show why is is wrong/flawed/etc.

I guess we'd all be too blinded by your brilliance if you did that. Probably best for you to keep talking shit without backing it up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146183)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:54 AM
Author: massive contagious ratface

hey, what do you think about that India story about that one province eliminating COVID due to ivermectin? crazy story, huh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146130)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

Haven't heard of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146191)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: massive contagious ratface

i bumped it for ya

take a look! kooky reading!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146348)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:35 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

I mean, it's a short article in an Indian newspaper. Encouraging and a good reason to do more study on use of Ivermectin, but not exactly groundbreaking. I mean, imagine if you gave the the same type of credulity to every pro-vax story printed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146399)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:42 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

"I mean, imagine if you gave the the same type of credulity to every pro-vax story printed."

India's science beat in journalism has a poor track record for gatekeeping work on quackery. I still remember when Indian newspapers reported that red rain was from an unknown space alien that had penetrated our atmosphere. (It was from a terrestrial airborne fungal spore.)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146440)



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Date: September 21st, 2021 5:04 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Cowardly Church

You don’t give the same credibility to the groupthink articles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43154070)



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Date: September 23rd, 2021 9:51 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

I don't give much credence to any news articles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43167558)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:54 AM
Author: Sticky Fanboi Market

Crazy how mentally ill cuckolds seem to love the vax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146124)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:56 AM
Author: thriller cerise boistinker

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146139)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:56 AM
Author: coiffed alpha house

"This is a thread where we repeat things we saw on Twitter to each other and then congratulate each other for discovering secret truths that the egghead 'PhDs' are too stupid to recognize."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146138)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:33 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

"Those 'scientists' told me castrating my male children wouldn't actually make them women. Who's laughing now!?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146388)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:35 PM
Author: bistre milk

also those scientists told me that it's good for my health to jump off a bridge onto the rocks underneath. the science says it's good, but my head says it's bad. i believe in science, so I guess I'll jump, it must be healthy for me! (epah)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146396)



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Date: September 22nd, 2021 2:30 AM
Author: Exhilarant Stead Messiness

PhDs? You mean these guys?

https://unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/image-8-1.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43157180)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:01 PM
Author: hyperactive charismatic church building

Tbf, epah does bring up good points

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146179)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:18 PM
Author: azure abode

Vaxing everybody instead of just at risk cohorts is going to both prolong the pandemic and also potentially lead to some kooky variants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146263)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:23 PM
Author: bistre milk

it is amazing that before 2019 there was a lot of talk in the scientific community about vaccine/medicine resistant strains of bacteria and viruses. now that's totally gone, and it's totally the opposite now for some reason, viruses and bacteria just totally changed their evolutionary selection overnight, and literal retard bootlicking satanic unthinking libs ITT don't question that AT ALL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146304)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:17 PM
Author: wonderful faggotry library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147387)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:35 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Vaxxing everyone would shorten the pandemic significantly, if not end it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146398)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:36 PM
Author: bistre milk

how so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146405)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:46 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

This whole "pandemic" is a massive societal overreaction to what is, for nearly everyone who gets it, a case of the sniffles, HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146469)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:46 PM
Author: bistre milk

anyone who says otherwise is an actual moron or an agent of satan, or both

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146473)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:51 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Vaxxing everyone would shorten the pandemic significantly, if not end it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146501)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:50 PM
Author: Diverse self-centered pit

By the time you got everyone in the world vaxxed-- or even close to it-- we would be on to the next flu variant that is not responsive to the then current vax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146496)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:36 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

I don't understand why getting vaccinated would be more likely to lead to variants. Connect the dots for me there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146406)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:41 PM
Author: bistre milk

you are a literal idiot if you don't already understand this. prior to 2019 the entire debate within the medical community was "vaccine resistant viruses/diseases". suddenly in 2019 that flipped for some reason, viruses just decided to operate in the totally opposite way! when you vaccinate someone and they come in contact with a disease, if the disease isn't entirely killed off, the resistant portions are able to spread, thus eliminating the weaker portions of the disease and making the disease more efficient and stronger down the line. that's called evolution! you're getting rid of the weaker portions and leaving the strong portion. then it multiplies, spreads, etc. you believe in evolution, right? well, vaccines speed up evolution in viruses and bacteria!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146433)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:12 PM
Author: Brilliant arousing theatre

Resistance to small molecule antibiotics/antivirals is certainly a thing, but I'm not really sure how a vaccine is going to select for resistant strains anymore than natural immunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146625)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:17 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

"when you vaccinate someone and they come in contact with a disease, if the disease isn't entirely killed off, the resistant portions are able to spread, thus eliminating the weaker portions of the disease and making the disease more efficient and stronger down the line."

Talking about this in terms of "portions" is not helpful. Every time the virus replicates, there is a chance it replicates with a mutation. With every mutation, there is a chance it makes it more transmissible, or more virulent (rarely both).

All the evidence I've seen indicates that a virus is going to replicate *fewer* times in a vaccinated person versus an unvaccinated person, so there will be *fewer* mutations generated than if that person were unvaccinated.

The vaccine resisant mutations (or anti-biotic mutations, or what have you) do not develop *because* of vaccines. That is an ass-backwards understanding of evolution. The *other* variations die out *because of* vaccines (or anti-biotics). You haven't explained why we would get *more* variants or more variants of concern with higher vaccination rates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146644)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:21 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

time to grow a beard dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146661)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:41 PM
Author: Pale Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146741)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:42 PM
Author: bistre milk

Vaccines select for stronger variations while eliminating the weaker ones. Somehow, this proves the opposite. - you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146746)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:45 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Please read more carefully, and read the complete poast.

"All the evidence I've seen indicates that a virus is going to replicate *fewer* times in a vaccinated person versus an unvaccinated person, so there will be *fewer* mutations generated than if that person were unvaccinated."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146759)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:50 PM
Author: bistre milk

Irrelevant. They're called vaccine/anti biotic resistant diseases in the first place. It's in the name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146789)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:56 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

It's quite relevant.

And Iron is correct AFAICT that you are going to get more mutations in an unvaxxed person than in a vaxxed person. You are just going to have a better biological environment for mutations developing in a body that doesn't already have vaccine-induced keys for keeping the reproduction of the virus down in general.

I will say that as a layperson it certainly seems plausible to me to suggest that you will also get dangerous mutations somewhere, somehow, in some individual who has been vaxxed, and at least a few of those will be very powerful, overwhelming the vax-induced antigens. But that doesn't mean that a mutation enhancing its transmissibility will happen at the same time as it enhances its virulence--that's pretty unlikely, apparently.

I think the odds favor Iron's viewpoint significantly, although I will agree that I don't KNOW this to be true--it only seems more plausible than the alternative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146814)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:00 PM
Author: bistre milk

So you don't know anything. Got it. Guess all pre 2020 vaccine research just changed overnight. Lmao!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146829)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:04 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Do you believe that vaccinated people are causing covid mutations more than unvaccinated people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146849)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: bistre milk

number of mutations/variations is irrelevant. everyone knows that absent vaccines, viruses tend to weaken over time so that they can spread further. there can be a billion variations that all do nothing and therefore don't matter. the science is settled on this. vaccines, however, disrupt this natural path and encourage stronger mutations to occur. the science is also settled on this. pre 2020, it was consensus to resist the use of meds in cases where they might be convenient but are not necessary. glad you agree with me and also concede that you in fact know nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146863)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

I dont think you know what irrelevant means.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146908)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: bistre milk

you have not responded to anything and therefore have conceded. thansk!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146931)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:27 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

You seem keen to change the subject. But:

"All the evidence I've seen indicates that a virus is going to replicate *fewer* times in a vaccinated person versus an unvaccinated person, so there will be *fewer* mutations generated than if that person were unvaccinated."

This does not get you to the idea that vaccinated people are causing mutations of the virus more than unvaccinated. The breeding grounds are significantly smaller in the unvaccinated, for a start, and this would contradict the idea that vaccinated people are breeding mutated superbugs by virtue of being vaccinated. You have to have lots of breeding to start, before you even get to the possibility of a mutation.

If the breeding is dampened significantly in a body as a result of the vaccine, then there are not as many mutations taking place as in a body without the vaccine. Get it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146989)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:28 PM
Author: bistre milk

again, you have not responded to the subject of the debate and you fundamentally misunderstand science. you have conceded. good day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147004)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:32 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

You continue not to understand the point that was made. It's clear upon review of this subthread. I can't make it any clearer for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147027)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:33 PM
Author: bistre milk

again, you have not responded to the subject of the debate and you fundamentally misunderstand science. you have conceded. good day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147045)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:21 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

"Stronger" and "weaker" is a stupid way to describe mutations.

I don't think you are understaning (or really trying to understand) the mechanisms at work.

I am genuinely interested in an explanation as to why more vaccinated people would result in more, or more concerning, variants, but "vaccines = stronger virus" isn't an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146953)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:26 PM
Author: bistre milk

ok, i'll explain it again. before 2020, the consensus was to avoid using antiobiotics etc. when not necessary. you could even fire up google and see articles from the past decade that talk about the coming vaccine resistant plagues. the mechanism is that vaccines (especially relevant now that there are breakthrough covid cases!) select for stronger mutations that survive vaccine protection, per cdc definitions. an example: you have 100 people, all vaccinated, all are exposed to some disease. 95 people are fine, 5 have breakthrough cases. the vaccine "eliminated" all the weak strains, leaving only the 5 stronger strains left. repeat ad infinitum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146986)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:30 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

You've missed the point. For starters, corona is a virus and not a bacteria.

Second, please research what transmissibility and virulence mean. These factors rarely mutate in tandem in viruses. That's precisely the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147018)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:32 PM
Author: bistre milk

you have actually not responded to the substance of the argument and instead decided to nitpick. thanks for not understanding science. when the fuck did this place get filled with such prole low iq trash like yourself? go to college you prole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147033)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

You keep using these "weak" and "strong" words that don't make sense in context, so his point about virulence and transmissibility is pretty relevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147060)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:34 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

Ok, I think we are getting somewhere.

So, let's take your example. 100 vaccinated people get exposed, 95 fight off no problem and don't spread it to anyone, and 5 can't fight it off (we are presuming it's because of some pre-existing mutation that makes it vaccine resistant, I guess?), and spread it. You've got fewer cases of Covid going around, but it's 100% the vaccine-resistant variety.

So what's the alternative? Without vaccination, all 100 of those people are spreading the strains they got, including the 5 people who got the vaccine-resistant variety. Why is that better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147053)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: bistre milk

how could it be vaccine resistant if it has no exposure to the vaccine? the vaccines force the virus to mutate. virus meets vaccine -> mutates to resist it. now all the vaccines are useless and we have a MORE VIRULENT or TRANSMISSIBLE strain that has found a mutation to get around the vaccine. lmao. same principle as described in all scientific literature pre 2020. the science is settled on this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147069)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:43 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

"how could it be vaccine resistant if it has no exposure to the vaccine? the vaccines force the virus to mutate. virus meets vaccine -> mutates to resist it."

Ok. I *thought* this was your fundamental misunderstanding, and it's good that you confirmed it. THAT IS NOT HOW EVOLUTION WORKS.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147114)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:44 PM
Author: bistre milk

(guy who hates science and thinks some magical sky fairy created humans)

https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathogens-to-evolve-20180510/

They then infected all the birds with strains of Marek’s that varied in how virulent — as in how dangerous and infectious — they were. The team found that, over the course of their lives, the unvaccinated birds shed far more of the least virulent strains into the environment, whereas the vaccinated birds shed far more of the most virulent strains. The findings suggest that the Marek’s vaccine encourages more dangerous viruses to proliferate. This increased virulence might then give the viruses the means to overcome birds’ vaccine-primed immune responses and sicken vaccinated flocks.

Immunization is also making once-rare or nonexistent genetic variants of pathogens more prevalent, presumably because vaccine-primed antibodies can’t as easily recognize and attack shape-shifters that look different from vaccine strains. And vaccines being developed against some of the world’s wilier pathogens — malaria, HIV, anthrax — are based on strategies that could, according to evolutionary models and lab experiments, encourage pathogens to become even more dangerous.

you are done here. please, go to college you prole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147121)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:50 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

What you just quoted has nothing to do with how mutations arise (and it's a good example of why understanding the terminology like "virulence" is important to having a productive conversation).

Attention-seeking headlines aimed at lay readers aside, vaccines, antibiotics, etc. do not "push" viruses or bacteria to change. Rather, like all evolutionary pressures, they create environments where naturally-occurring mutations thrive or do not thrive.

I will read the article more fully, though, as it might have a more cogent explanation you haven't provided.

Edit:

Ok, I read the article.

First, like most articles for a widespread audience, it's kind of shitty on presenting actual data.

If you haven't learned to be skeptical of sentences from journalists like "Worse, in recent decades, the virus has become more deadly," without any data to back it up, you probably need to recalibrate your bullshit detector.

Second, the author misuses terms with defined meanings, like "virulent," which she defines to mean "how dangerous and infectious" a virus is. Being more virulent does *not* mean being more "infectious." There is usually an *inverse* relationship between virulence and how infectious (or easily transmissible) a virus is.

Now, if you actually read the PLOS paper the article is based on, it posits a reasonable hypothesis: Highly virulent (i.e., deadly) strains typically die out because they kill their hosts, but vaccines that prevent death (but not infection) could result in hosts spreading those virulent strains more.

Yet, neither that PLOS paper nor the Quanta article compare a high-vaccination-rate scenario to a no- or low-vaccination-rate scenario.

Also, the PLOS paper doesn't deal at all with "vaccine-resistant" strains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147170)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:53 PM
Author: Pale Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147191)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:53 PM
Author: bistre milk

you're 100% correct. vaccines create environments where vaccine resistant mutations thrive, as described in that article. thanks!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147192)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:05 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

They can create scenarios where *only* vaccine resistant mutations thrive, but not moreso than those mutations would have thrived in the absence of vaccines (unless you've got some new theory/information on that front). Does that make sense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147277)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:06 PM
Author: bistre milk

They can create scenarios where *only* vaccine resistant mutations thrive

that's pretty bad, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147298)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:08 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Not if they are LESS virulent! LESS Transmissible! JFC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147307)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:09 PM
Author: bistre milk

i agree. they're just vaccine resistant. then when they do become MORE virulent or MORE transmissible, oops I guess!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147322)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:11 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

In what ways do you expect them to evolve? More likely to kill their host? Or less likely?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147341)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:30 PM
Author: bistre milk

why is everyone freaking out about the delta variant?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147506)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:31 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

1. It's much more easily transmitted, so more people are getting confirmed cases, and...

2. Media loves a good story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147514)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:11 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

At this point, I don't think we have any way of knowing whether any strain that is more vaccine resistant is more or less infectious or more or less virulent than any other strain.

We know Delta is more easily transmitted, but it doesn't appear to be any more virulent (maybe even less?), and it's not really clear if Delta is actually more vaccine resistant in terms of initial infection or severe symptoms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147334)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:09 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

Why? Seriously. Why is that worse?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147316)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:10 PM
Author: bistre milk

so vaccine resistance disease isn't bad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147326)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:13 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

It depends on the alternative you are comparing it to.

It's certainly worse than a disease that can be 100% eradicated with a widely available vaccine. But that's not the alternative we have. We have an alternative where the same disease is circulating and causing more severe health problems than if people get vaccinated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147351)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:16 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Antivaxxers struggle with nuance and the weighing of multiple factors on scales. As pseudo "libertarians" they also don't have normal levels of empathy and compassion, so when you talk about people dying whom they don't know personally, they don't understand how that is relevant to their decision to vax or not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147377)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

I think that's an uncharitable and overbroad characterization.

It's wise to make public policy based on population-level statistics, not individual tragedies or people you know personally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147447)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:41 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Yeah probably overbroad characterization. But it seems like these types are more in your wheelhouse than mine, so I don't think I'm being especially uncharitable here, just normal human response to this npc.

And I agree that it's wise to follow population level statistics. Which is precisely what antivaxxers are not doing. When it suits them. Or when they can selfishly say they personally are not in harms way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147574)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:07 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

It wont make sense to him because he doesn't have the transmissibility/ virulence concept down yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147302)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:52 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

See my response below.

Why does this hypothetical as applied to corona virus in any way excuse the taking of a vaccination in your case now? Or in anyone's case?

Isn't this only a response to someone saying that you are selfish and uncaring by not getting the vaccine and decreasing the odds that you will pass the virus on to others? Like, still an attempt to paint yourself as a good guy who doesn't want to create a monster virus unlike all those scientists, physicians, world leaders, epidemiologists and public health officials out there?

But why would any concern in this regard be a "now" problem when the "now" problem is a pandemic/600,000 dead? Serious question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147184)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:43 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Bro. I think the hypothetical assumes that the vaccine resistant version became vaccine resistant earlier, before attacking the current patient, through a mechanism you tried to describe earlier (and which everyone already understands, rest assured).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147119)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:23 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Senate Codepig

Unless you are 250lb with diabetes and/or over 65 and/or dying from cancer anyway this virus is a joke and you will suffer more from your next case of strep throat. The people who need to lose any sleep over this have way bigger health problems than Covid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146301)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:24 PM
Author: bistre milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146312)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:10 PM
Author: thriller cerise boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146607)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 12:52 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Bort libs pouring into this thread to defend their crappy vaccines and endless boosters. Sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146503)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:56 PM
Author: rusted internet-worthy step-uncle's house trump supporter

Statistics fail for the antivaxers. I see why you all went into law though - numbers make your heads hurt? The rate at which hospital beds & deaths comes from the antivax retards makes anything except the vaccine statistically irrelevant as an explanation. Seems quant not your thing - just stick to fixing commas dumbasses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146815)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:59 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Good point. But they even fight that. It's not reported properly. Or there are lots of vaxxed who get sick but don't bother with going to the hospital. Or any number of things that, according to boart antivaxxers, completely rounds out the skew you've identified. It's interesting to see dumbs at work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146826)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:02 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Damn thats a fire reddit post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146839)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:05 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

I'm sure that seemed like a powerful riposte in your head.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146853)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Lmao oh what a wordsmith

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146913)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:21 PM
Author: garnet mad-dog skullcap

It’s not even AntiVax issues man - it’s the fact that there is a huge population that has natural immunity to Covid and they’re being forced to subject themselves to a procedure that could be extremely dangerous for them relative to uninfected people for no quantifiable reason in the US.

Europe and Israel accept natural immunity as being sufficient and equal to vaccination while the US has ignored it completely for the past year and only just now is beginning to begrudgingly acknowledge its equivalency or superiority to vaccines.

Yet even now no significant effort is being made to further study it or scientifically approach the situation on a rational basis like other countries and it’s being left up to people who are facing medical apartheid who are functionally not a “threat” to anyone to aggressively fight for their civil rights which have been unjustifiably stripped away for no reason.

There’s a big difference between people who refuse all vaccines and those who simply do not see a reason to be subjected to one like this that is redundant, which could affect them in a worse way than the broader population. I had chickenpox as a kid so I didn’t get the vaccine.

Another thing that’s absurd is the degree of cross immunity that exists between SARS (and I assume MERS) and Covid-19. People who had SARS are immune to Covid-19 after 17+ years. Think about that for a moment when it comes to durability of immunity.

What’s even worse is that some of these people who recovered would donate blood with natural antibodies to help immunocompromised and older people - but now they’re are demonized by the same people who praised them as heroes.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146952)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:24 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

I agree that requiring naturally immune people to get vaccinated is not really justified (although it apparently does confer a benefit).

but too many people on this bort can't seem to disambiguate between "vax good" and "vax bad" and will repeat any bullshit that happens to coincide with the "side" they've chosen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146975)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 1:59 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Libs ITT:

"You need vaccine X to protect against virus Y!"

"But you already have X, so aren't you protected against Y?"

"No, X doesn't work completely. That's why you need it, so we'll all have incomplete protection."

"But that sounds a lot worse than just doing natur-"

"SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146827)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:02 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Again, it's not worse. And again, just because something provides a marked improvement but is not 100% successful doesn't mean that it's no good or shouldn't be implemented.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146842)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:11 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

This is a great 95 IQ argument that I've seen made countless times on reddit. "Only us libs can understand the 'nuance' of grey areas, like a woman with a cock!"

I'm afraid, ofc, the data doesn't concur: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

It's not black and white, pumo, it's good and bad, and you're 100% selecting the bad option, likely because you're a Science! loving dullard who craves endless boosters and feeling smugly superior to ppl who rightly point out that this "pandemic" is a farce. We could have achieved the same "marked improvement" by just sliding and letting do and cloistering off/vaxxing our most at-risk pops

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146884)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:05 PM
Author: rusted internet-worthy step-uncle's house trump supporter

(dude who knows dick about statistics)

Did math make your head hurt and you decided THE LAW was your "passion"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146854)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:06 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

He's not a lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146855)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:08 PM
Author: rusted internet-worthy step-uncle's house trump supporter

would bet he's not anything quant either. probably didn't crack 600 on Math SAT too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146868)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

I don't think there's any question about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146887)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:13 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Lmao these pumos are FUMING about me ITT. Enough to make me blush.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146902)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

*Laughing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146928)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:19 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

I really love that you two are speculating over my SATs, extremely Asian and Loserish of you, please continue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146941)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

God I wish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146907)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Uh oh, we got another pumo stats master over here!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146893)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:18 PM
Author: Diverse self-centered pit

Long thread. Anything in here that supports vax hysteria and what are effectively mandates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146934)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:20 PM
Author: hyperactive charismatic church building

Epah, IronMonkey, and a quotemo have absolutely PWNED Trumptards ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146946)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:23 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

(opposite day pumo)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43146966)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: Primrose Soul-stirring Locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147077)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:33 PM
Author: Diverse self-centered pit

Not what I asked though. I don't care to argue about whether this is a true vaccine or not or whether it helps people who get it avoid serious complications. I want to know how that supports a vax mandate, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147047)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

That's a matter of political preference. I'm very resistant to any sort of governmental mandate (including indirect mandates where government tells businesses they only get benefits if they "voluntarily" mandate vaccination).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147071)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:05 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

I think it's clear from threads like this one that it's going to take a soft mandate of some type to get the vaccine numbers up high enough so the unvaxxed stop dying unnecessarily and we can get rid of masks and other troubles.

But that's where you come from politically and what you think about how irrational dumb smart gullible the average person is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147280)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:16 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

I think we can get rid of a lot of masks and other troubles and let the voluntarily unvaccinated suffer if they decide to do so (although I don't want that to happen).

I'd say the only justification for doing otherwise is if it really looks like hospital beds are going to be in short supply due to a covid outbreak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147373)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Well, I'd like to do that but it really is an instance where their gross stupidity actually makes everything worse for everyone so purely on a utilitarian basis I would support soft mandates. We aren't smart enough to make it out alive, or to sustain democracy in its current form, as this boart itself shows.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147418)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

It really doesn't make it (much) worse for everyone, though. If you're vaxxed or under 12, your risk of any serious illness is pretty damn low, so WTF do I care if someone wants to risk their own serious illness?

Sure, it's a drain on the overall healthcare system, just like fried chicken and automobiles, but I like fried chicken and automobiles too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147473)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

I think it's worse in the following metrics:

Schools, work, fun stuff all continuing to get cancelled or postponed. Wearing masks everywhere. Shit not running right because there aren't enough workers to do the basic jobs right now. I've said before on here that there's built into these things a degree of irrational response, and we all have to accommodate the irrational response that unfortunately accompanies these retards' constant nonsense.

I also think it's worse in metrics associated with health generally but would like to see data on it.

Basically, the longer these losers drag stuff out the longer we are going to be inconvenienced and troubled by Covid as a society.

If you think that just letting them catch covid and die like morons won't harm the state of our covid response notwithstanding, then I think I can back your view.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147710)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:46 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

Ok, but "Schools, work, fun stuff all continuing to get cancelled or postponed. Wearing masks everywhere," that's all because of covid *policy*, not because of Covid. The shortage or workers is also more because of covid policies at this point (i.e., benefits) I think.

Well, letting people catch covid isn't going to cause most of the people who catch it to die, but it will impart immunity (at least for a while).

It's true (I think) that vaccination will slow the spread, but if catching covid isn't really all that bad for the vaccinated (I'm sure it sucks for a lot of people, but not crisis level compared to a bad flu year), then I'm fine with people setting their own risk tolerances.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147968)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:52 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

At this point I would do anything to get over this pandemic.

If it means segregating the nonvaxxers by excluding them from work and travel until they grow up, I have no problem with that. Nor will anyone else, except other moral toddlers.

As for bringing up that this is "covid response" and not "Covid," I mean, sure. People are irrational but we live in society so to some extent we are at the mercy of the irrational.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147992)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:54 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

Anything but just treating it like it's over?

There's no guarantee that even a 85% vaccination rate will make it "over."

Once you reduce the risk to reasonable levels for everyone willing to get vaccinated, which I think we've done, I say lift the restrictions.

If it looks like a particular area is going to have full ICUs or something, then I can see a stronger case for imposing restrictions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148007)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:57 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

We aren't out of the woods yet, by a long shot, and antivax npcs and society's fully well known but inevitable irrational response to that is part of what's keeping us back.

I suspect a large portion of antivaxxers LIKE the jobless benefits, they LIKE w-f-h, they LIKE the disruption this pandemic has caused, and they want to keep it going. Look at the dumb unemployedmos itt alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148030)



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Date: September 21st, 2021 2:35 AM
Author: cocky geriatric den party of the first part

You're a goddamn fucking moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43150933)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:28 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

(shitlib breathlessly chanting DEMOCRACY DIES IN DARKNESS)

Lmao you do understand this virus has a 99%+ survival rate, right? That whole countries have just said "Yeah, nbd" and are totally fine? That old people and unhealthy people unfortunately do get sick from coronaviruses and die, and that this has occurred your entire life, the vast majority of which you didn't support insane Draconian measures in the name of fighting a pandemic that is largely fraud pure fraud for nearly all young + healthy people?

Please tell me you're copying and pasting this stuff from Yahoo Answers or the like. If so, hats off to you good sir, brilliant troll!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147487)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:07 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

First, do you agree that failing to get vaccinated makes it more likely that you will pass covid onto someone who will die from it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147751)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:18 PM
Author: bistre milk

this begs the question: should you make massive, life altering decisions based on a disease with a 99.95% survival rate for everyone under 65, which also has an average mortality age that's over the overall average for the US, or should you slide and let do, turn the tv off, and go outside?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147818)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:24 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

I asked you this question and you refused to answer it. So don't come in here trolling unless you are going to answer the same question now.

Here is the question, for the fifth time:

First, do you agree that failing to get vaccinated makes it more likely that you will pass covid onto someone who will die from it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147843)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:24 PM
Author: bistre milk

thanks for conceding again! as a prole, maybe you should go to college and get educated and learn about science!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147847)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:27 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Okay, you just want to troll and won't dare answer a question because it might show that you aren't one of the good people you normally think of yourself as.

Got it.

And your facts are all wrong, besides.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147856)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:28 PM
Author: bistre milk

sure, if trolling is presenting you an argument and you not responding to it! (but that's what low iq provincial proles would do)

i'm glad you concede, and nice edits after the fact (that change absolutely nothing and make you look even more prole and provincial, LMAO)!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147867)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:40 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

It's not worth it with this particular pumo. He pretends to not understand and peppers you with questions until you have to do something non-Internet related.

I suspect this technique was honed at a TTT or even TTTT law school.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147937)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:41 PM
Author: bistre milk

no, there is no way this provincial prole went to an american law school, or any law school at all. he'd at least have a love for diction and rhetoric if that were the case and which is clearly not evident here. zhey seem to get really upset when you call them prole though. must hit close to home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147942)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:06 PM
Author: Pale Plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147293)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Reminder: all libs ITT would be 100% against the vaccines if Trump were still president.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/kamala-harris-says-she-wouldnt-trust-a-vaccine-trump-recommended/ar-BB19O9k4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147081)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 2:44 PM
Author: Primrose Soul-stirring Locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147126)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:10 PM
Author: thriller cerise boistinker

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147332)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:17 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

I'm not sure which "libs" you're talking about, but I think Kamala Harris is full of shit and libs trying to detract from the success of Operation Warp Speed are full of shit.

I know that might make your head hurt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147385)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:20 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

whoa CR friend

Now if only you could reach the DATA-driven conclusion that our hysterical overreaction - including vaccine mandates - to COVID has been an absolute farce, maybe we'd get somewhere!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147406)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:26 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Describe the mandates you are referring to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147462)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Are you contending that Biden didn't mandate vaccines (or invasive tests, federal employees not eligible) for millions of people or have them lose their livelihoods earlier this month?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147568)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Describe the mandates you are referencing please.

I am aware of requirements that if you have 100 people or more in your company, vaccinations or weekly testing is required on the federal level.

What other mandates are you referring to?

https://www.cnet.com/health/bidens-new-vaccine-mandates-for-100-million-americans-what-to-know/

Everything in there makes sense and is pretty self-explanatory. I don't see how this wouldn't pass constitutional muster assuming it is written properly either.

I'm really tired of this pandemic. It's hurt me in the bottom line, and with everything that is valuable to me. I'm ready for it to end, and our dum dums at the tail end are keeping that from me. So, good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147782)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:35 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Lmao, oh what a constitutional scholar!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147897)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:29 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

I agree that a *LOT* of covid-related public policy is a total farce. But you don't have to believe that vaccination is bad/risky/ineffective in order to think vaccination mandates are bad public policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147495)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:47 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Like I said in the OP, the vaxxes are effective against certain variants and for a certain amount of time. We should probably give them to old + sick people.

All vaccines carry risks. These ones have become so politicized it is likely the risks are being downplayed. Even remote chances of myocarditis, blood clots, and the like are serious.

It's not that they're "bad." It's that mass vaccination and endless boosters is suboptimal to other directions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147604)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:15 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

What risks do you think are being downplayed?

How has the vaccine become politicized and who is responsible?

Why do you think people will have "endless boosters" or that that will be indicated?

What are the other directions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147800)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:37 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

All these questions have been answered multiple times ITT.

I can't help you any more, delusional ESL pumo. Keep living in fear of an overwhelmingly harmless virus and the "unvaccinated" (shudder!), I suppose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147918)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Not at all. People on here who disagree with you would simply follow the recommendations and practices of their own physicians. Trump had already rendered himself irrelevant anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147443)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:30 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Lmao you would be STAUNCHLY anti-vax if Trump were president.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147508)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:18 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

Don't presume to know what I would or wouldn't do. I support the medical consensus and I value expertise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147817)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:36 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

Must've been a real headscratcher for you when those same medical experts who told you that you couldn't go to the funeral of a loved one turned around and said that as long as you were screaming into someone's face at an anti-racist riot, the virus wouldn't effect you.

Also, a picture of one of your valued experts here: https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_nbcnews-fp-1024-512,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2017_26/2003491/pgnamed.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147903)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 5:05 PM
Author: Pale Plaza

I'm backing away. There's only so much crazy I can process in one day. Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148102)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 6:54 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

I understand and applaud your decision. After all, this made me feel absolutely insane for several days after I first saw it:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/health-care-open-letter-protests-coronavirus-trnd/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148864)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 7:08 PM
Author: Primrose Soul-stirring Locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148939)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 7:15 PM
Author: vigorous naked french chef ladyboy

Libs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148976)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:29 PM
Author: Deranged double fault

but for our hospitals jam packed with boomers who coughed aids on each other i wouldn't care, but selfish people are selfish and won't do us the favor of staying home to die.

https://www.facebook.com/StateHealthIN/photos/a.395188660531404/4523205771062985/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147492)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:31 PM
Author: Vibrant fighting area friendly grandma

God, just like in 1984!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147513)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 3:36 PM
Author: Deranged double fault

oh sorry i'll let you get back to your circle jerk, i know what a cumslut you are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147557)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:43 PM
Author: Primrose Soul-stirring Locus

Benzo, you know I love you brother, but you're literally homosexual IRL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147955)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 7:47 PM
Author: jet prole box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43149133)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 4:53 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy haunted graveyard point

This thread should be buried at sea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43147999)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 5:02 PM
Author: Sickened thirsty address pervert

This is not acceptable under Sharia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148085)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 6:19 PM
Author: Milky stock car corner

(XO 2021)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148599)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 7:14 PM
Author: Floppy beta indirect expression circlehead

First, let's clear up the notion of a "perfect vaccine". For some reason, people get it into their heads that only a perfect vaccine can be a "vax". It really isn't. Just because something is highly effective doesn't mean it's a perfect vaccine. In fact, it's quite often the opposite.

A perfect vaccine would be the most highly effective treatment possible, for as many people as possible. That is not the case with vaccinating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43148971)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 8:39 PM
Author: Trip theater stage

So the vaccine seems to be just a little bit better than some Vitamin C, some moderate exercise twice a week, and a good night's rest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43149440)



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Date: September 21st, 2021 2:01 PM
Author: dun stirring karate

LOL where the hell are you coming up with this nonsense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43152864)



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Date: September 20th, 2021 11:43 PM
Author: mahogany garrison

This is the 15th time this has been said but this time lets poast 300x about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4925730&forum_id=2#43150486)