Do the troops in this photo look "Afghan" to you (NSAM 57)
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Date: September 22nd, 2021 1:00 PM Author: cerebral juggernaut address
there’s a certain particularly crazy right wing schizobro who’s long proposed that middle eastern islamists have been slowly rolled up over the last few years by the gulf cooperation council. these guys and their unis look like the saudi bros that he holds up as examples
his theory is that this proceeds externally via a combo of elite special forces units from more moderate middle eastern countries and + internally via infiltration of terrorists forces like the local al qaeda cell or whatever
the idea is that over time the craziest hardliners surreptitiously get got and control is assumed by friendlies who won’t rock the boat. it’s kept quiet to allow tribalistic locals and supporters to save face and support the eventual victors without the humiliation of bending the knee to outsiders.
he’s got a lot of nutty ideas but i do wonder in light of recent events if some version of this isn’t what happened with the chill fratty bumper car loving modern taliban.
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Date: September 22nd, 2021 1:24 PM Author: Lascivious home
If I understand you correctly you are absolutely right. Blowback is a recurring theme with the CIA. It can even happen within the CIA itself.
In this case it looks like western intelligence agencies were running paramilitaries early in the afghan conflict, but that over time they lost interest for one reason or another. The paramilitaries were assembled from mercenaries, many of them from other countries, so in that sense our commitment to diversity on the battlefield predates Obama!
In any case, these guys were having too much fun to just pack up and leave when the CIA were done them. They got creative, found other sources of financing, and stuck around. This explains why you hear reports of various flavors of "ISIS" popping up around Afghanistan, but you see no indications that "ISIS" in Afghanistan has any sort of religious or even ideological agenda.
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Date: September 22nd, 2021 1:46 PM Author: cerebral juggernaut address
yeah i forgot to account for what we already know for certain, which is our dumb fucking spooks arming anyone who can hold a gun to be their proxy warriors, consequences be damned when the mercs/extremists inevitably do merc/extremist things
idk what you’re trying to work out but playing it out in my head for fun,
gcc/western commandos winding bullsbit afghan regime down and shepherding them into panshir valley or whatever as pressure release, idk what comes next for them, maybe some big reconciliation show for the less bad ones as the worst of the worst die of mysterious natural causes, get shipped elsewhere, etc
as the other side of the pincer, friendly talibros (including disguised outsiders) coordinate w both western forces and moles in afghan regime, assume control of afghanistan on a schedule. they make a show of being hardliners from time to time to keep up appearances even as they build a chill fratty image in paddle boats office chairs gyms etc
meanwhile isis fags and adjacent, either with or without support and knowledge of their cia or whatever handlers, know they’re in trouble (taliban immediate execution of local leader in jail) and run the suicide bombing and whatever other damage they could cause but are generally neutered and irrelevant, presumably being hunted by everyone else in the country at this point
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Date: September 22nd, 2021 1:53 PM Author: Lascivious home
In this case I'm particularly interested in the use of the word "policeman." He was allegedly killed on a mission to rescue an Afghan "policeman" was "surrounded by taliban."
During early reporting on the withdrawal, there were reports that the taliban were paying afghan "policemen" to defect, and one report said the "police" had not been paid in six weeks.
I have a theory that "police" is used as a stand-in for "security," which is the more conventional press-speak for "intelligence."
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Date: September 22nd, 2021 1:03 PM Author: At-the-ready brunch
the ones with their faces wholly obscured?
or the one lying down who is not a soldier but is with the PRESS?
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Date: September 22nd, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Rusted bull headed base
You tend to make a lot of leaps in your thinking.
I don't believe the boots are going to tell you anything, really. Boots are changed/exchanged, part of the currency of warfare in developing places.
I'm not sure you can say that tells you anything.
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Date: September 22nd, 2021 1:44 PM Author: Lascivious home
This story never made sense to me:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/afghanistan-conflict-reuters-siddiqui/
The timing was suspicious and it could only have been written by someone with access to military intelligence. The fact that they quote Whatsapp messages indicates to me that NSA was monitoring everything and that DoD was flexing. I also believe that article was written by DoD (not Reuters), because of the way it's written and where it was published.
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Date: September 22nd, 2021 2:25 PM Author: Lascivious home
Other "facts" that never made sense to me:
1. The guy is supposedly the best photographer in the world, and has taken pictures all over the globe, often in really sexy places like Shanghai. But for some reason he decides to go to dusty shithole Afghanistan that no one cares about? To the middle of nowhere?
2. The article makes it clear that Reuters was not responsible for this. It describes in great length how this guy assumed all risk associated with this mission. Clearly the authors wanted to fully exonerate Reuters of liability. However, Reuters is also publishing the article. If Reuters was writing about its own internal deliberations, I would have expected a more intimate tone. This section of the reporting reads like it was written by a third party reviewing internal Reuters communications.
3. I cannot think of any conceivable reason why Special Forces of any sort would want a fucking highly proclaimed media photojournalist accompanying them on multiple high stakes missions. OpSec anyone? Nevermind the risk to the Special Operators themselves, who have to babysit this dude and serve as his private body guards. We're asked to believe that ANA Special Ops made this retarded request to Reuters, thousands of miles away, Reuters was against it, but this guy was like "fuck it" and hopped on a plane to Kabul??
4. He is described as "taking photographs" during live fire events. Based on what? The recovered camera does not show pictures taken during the battle.
5. No sources are described, no witnesses named, not even anonymously. Yet we have blow-by-blow details of every communications, minute by minute, including satellite photos and cell phone tracking data.
There are at least a dozen other items I could list but who has time?
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Date: September 22nd, 2021 5:16 PM Author: Rusted bull headed base
Looks like a photojournalist was not well supervised by Reuters, who couldn't get their act together on when to pull him.
He then went along on some undertaking to rescue someone or pull someone out from behind the Taliban, got injured in crossfire and through confusion was taken prisoner and some Taliban took out anti-Indian sentiment on him.
Terrible story. But so what? Are you counsel for Reuters or something? You are seeing all these panicky leads out there when they aren't really there, which is what a person might do if they are really stressed.
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Date: September 22nd, 2021 10:26 PM Author: Lascivious home
This is what I mean:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/assets/afghanistan-conflict-reuters-siddiqui/whatsapp-siddiqui.jpg?v=392310240821
Either they had ACTUAL screenshots from his Whatsapp at the moment he died (which would be weird), or one of his "friends" at Reuters sat down and created a mockup of what such a screenshot would have looked like (which would also be really fucking weird).
I don't think it's that far fetched to think the people who made that image disliked this guy. I don't think it's that far fetched to think military intelligence can do sick memes like 4chan. DoD is 4.4 million people from all walks of life.
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Date: September 23rd, 2021 8:40 AM Author: Thriller university pervert
Its not that far fetched. But neither are many other scenarios. You have a consistent fixation on posting chains of inference u then refer cryptically about as though factual.
I suspect and hope u are flame but wanted to talk to u frankly about how you come off here in case somehow you are not flame.
The reasoning itself is not schizo but the lack of self awareness in how your theories are presented certainly smells schizo. Get help.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4927417&forum_id=2#43163230) |
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