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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:45 AM Author: Learning disabled gaming laptop rigor
Phira
@Phirology
This will only TRAMATIZE the patients, which will NOT help recovery. Addiction is more than just removing the substance from their bodies. It's mental health, social support, psychological and/or medical therapies, the ability to work, fighting systemic injustices, and much more!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43295772) |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:58 AM Author: Learning disabled gaming laptop rigor
pretty sure the idea is that an aggressively religious and tribal society that prioritizes snatching up junkies (without fake worry about civil rights) and getting them clean will also reintegrate them into village life much better than the USA.
US: here's a rehab but you need insurance, there is a ream of paperwork, you have to sit for 15 hours of racial justice education, and when you leave we dump you back into St. Louis, good luck! (btw here is your medical marijuana card)
Talibros: on your feet, brother! You will get come and get clean or we shoot you. When you are done, we return you to your clan, where you will be put to work feeding your family. If you do not show up to prayer five times daily or do otherwise shady shit, we kill you. There will be family members around you 24/7, and here is a wife for you. Intoxicants are a grave sin and we will murder anyone who sells to you or tempts you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43295833) |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 9:59 AM Author: Sexy Sick Cruise Ship
If there is a sustained effort to help these people I'm all for it.
I'm just worried that this 45-day thing is to impress international journalists.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43295840) |
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Date: October 21st, 2021 3:58 PM Author: appetizing misunderstood trust fund
For the journalists?
The journalists and “international community” HATE this abuse of “Human Rights”
Did you see what happened to Duterte when he fought to keep drugs out of the Phillipines?
You are DUMB as SHIT or just a LIAR. You try to present as an expert on a subject but don’t know basic things about it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43308951) |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 10:16 AM Author: Sexy Sick Cruise Ship
Nah, I like it here.
Everyone has the freedom to fuck up, sure, but that's better than being forced to stay in line at gun point.
Is this really the vision that cons have for America?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43295908) |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 10:19 AM Author: Learning disabled gaming laptop rigor
Just flood poor regions with pills and online prostitution jobs while sending manufacturing overseas, dismantling the family, and bringing religion to its knees.
Then say, “everyone is FREE to fuck up, best wishes!”
Honestly fuck this “freedom”. More humane just to genocide the poors, but less profitable for pharma I guess
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43295922) |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 1:37 PM Author: cordovan point macaca
I used to think this way.
Look at what we do to people. We get people hooked on pharmaceuticals, a not insignificant number of which simply took their medication as prescribed. From that, doctors make money, and pharmaceutical companies make money. This money comes from the person who becomes addicted, but it also comes from Medicaid, as poor people have their meds paid by the government. People make billions on this scheme.
So then, a responsible person understand that they are addicted to opiods, so they go to rehab. Again, you have rehab doctors being paid by either the addict or the government. Millions upon millions is paid on this phase.
An irresponsible person, or a person hopelessly addicted, moves on to heroin. Now you have street gangs, etc. making money, with this money going God knows where (but I wouldn't be surprised to find the money coming back into the government).
After getting hooked on heroin, we have the methadone clinics and other government services that deal with homeless people. Millions upon million.
From there, we have the police (who get funding to fight crime, crime that addicts are committing) and jails (who get funding for having convicts). Lots of money there. Not only that, but these homeless just destroy cities, leaving their filth everywhere, creating a need for police and government services. The government justifies it's existence because you "need" it and the more you need it the better (and you need a lot of government help when you are surrounded by homeless people living outside your front door).
This entire system is protected by a political system that has zero incentive to do anything about this problem, because pharmaceutical companies make billions off this racket and, frankly, the more miserable people are the more likely they are to vote democrat, and democrats bristle at the idea that this system is in some way immoral. I remember some county in Kentucky make it illegal to sell ephedrine over the counter (in a county that was getting destroyed by meth), and state politicians stepped in because they said it was just "cold medicine."
So we have a system that is built to fuck our citizens in every possible way for financial gain. There is not one level of this that actually looks out for our citizens well being.
The freedom you talk about is the freedom for companies and the government to destroy and kill US citizens for profit and without any consequences.
Not flame the Taliban method of "here's 45 days of rehab the next step is a bullet" is probably more humane for the addict than what we do.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43296765) |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 10:37 AM Author: Slap-happy degenerate
At this point, it's hard to even know any more.
Do you have kids? It all changed for me once I had kids and then saw this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4vHegf3WPU
It's just all too insane. Late stage capitalism is off the rails. Preschool children are now subject to an educational curriculum of sexuality and mental illness as if it's basic reading or arithmetic. It's a slow and steady grooming that culminates with teaching high school children that actual prostitution (OnlyFans, etc) is okay, normal and healthy.
Is a far right Islamic theocracy the answer? No, but I'm so dismayed that I can see the appeal in a return to a simpler, religiously focused society that eschews this current cancer of degeneracy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43295992) |
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Date: October 19th, 2021 10:39 AM Author: Learning disabled gaming laptop rigor
CR. Our approach is more inhumane, more violent really. We set them up to suffer and die while congratulating ourselves on our compassion.
Malcolm X realized this, not coincidentally when he embraced islam. He used intense social pressure and aggressive enforcement to save black addicts and redeem their lives and their souls.
Are freedoms are not really freedoms at all. How free is the OnlyFans girl? How free is the ghetto kid? Freedom talk is the cudgel for the elites.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43296003) |
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Date: October 21st, 2021 5:45 AM Author: Sexy Sick Cruise Ship
You clearly know nothing about addiction.
My wife works with people who are forced into rehab - by their families, the courts, ACS, etc. If they're not totally committed they relapse once they've been out on the street for a few days.
"It’s no big deal once you are over the physical withdrawal for a long enough period."
Yeah right, psychology masterman. Addiction is a complex disease that involves both physical and psychological effects.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43306125) |
Date: October 19th, 2021 10:01 AM Author: dark foreskin
I love the Taliban now!
what's their position on Jews btw?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43295845) |
Date: October 21st, 2021 5:41 AM Author: Sexy Sick Cruise Ship
This thread just shows how insane this board has become. You oppose Sharia law ("I don't know, maybe shooting people on the spot because they're suspected of using drugs is taking things too far") and you must be some sort of blue-haired bashit crazy shitlib.
This is the future Conservatives have in mind for us - terrorizing us into giving up our freedoms. "Uh oh. Crime has risen! You don't want your wife and daughter to be raped, do you? That means you muse give us the right to summarily execute people!") And then they say *libs* are the anti-American ones. The Founding Fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they could see the shit conservsatives write on this board today.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43306122) |
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Date: October 21st, 2021 6:00 AM Author: Sexy Sick Cruise Ship
Obviously. These idiots clearly know nothing about addiction. I'm glad that someone who actually has experience with addiction decided to post here.
Forcing someone to sit in a room and detox for 45 days does nothing to help stay clean on the outside. You need CBT and a bunch of other stuff that xoxo will call bullshit because they are total idiots. People became addicts for areason and you need to figure out why that is and how they can go about dealing with stress/unhappiness in the future without drugs.
The guy who said that's it's no big deal to stop once the physical withdrawals are over is the biggest idiot of them all. Addiction is largely psychological. Getting pasts the shits and nausea is just the tip of the iceberg.
As I said, my wife works with junkies and she tells me so many stories of people who are forced into rehab by various people, and most of them fail because they don't want it enough to put in the hard work it takes to stay clean on the outside where you know you can go get high any minute if you have $10.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4945251&forum_id=2#43306140) |
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